Apple Pulls Hong Kong Protest App From App Store Following Chinese Criticism [Updated]

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Apple has pulled an app from the App Store that Hong Kong protestors have been using to track police movements, saying it violates the company's guidelines and local laws.

Apple approved HKmap Live last week after reviewing its decision to initially reject the app from the App Store.


However, on Wednesday Apple was criticized by Chinese state media for its decision to make the app available. "Letting poisonous software have its way is a betrayal of the Chinese people's feelings," said the People's Daily.

The app has since been delisted from the App Store and Apple has issued the following statement:
We created the App Store to be a safe and trusted place to discover apps. We have learned that an app, HKmap.live, has been used in ways that endanger law enforcement and residents in Hong Kong. Many concerned customers in Hong Kong have contacted us about this app and we immediately began investigating it. The app displays police locations and we have verified with the Hong Kong Cybersecurity and Technology Crime Bureau that the app has been used to target and ambush police, threaten public safety, and criminals have used it to victimize residents in areas where they know there is no law enforcement. This app violates our guidelines and local laws, and we have removed it from the App Store.
In a series of tweets, the developers of HKmap Live said they disagreed with Apple's claim that the app endangered law enforcement and residents in Hong Kong, and argued that "there is zero evidence to support CSTCB's [the Hong Kong Police Force's Cyber Security and Technology Crime Bureau] accusation that HKmap App has been used to target and ambush police, threaten public safety, and criminals have used it to victimize residents in areas where they know there is no law enforcement."

1. We disagree @Apple and @hkpoliceforce 's claim that HKmap App endanger law enforcement and residents in Hong Kong.#HKmap #HKmaplive #HK #Censorship - HKmap.live ???????? (@hkmaplive) October 10, 2019

Earlier on Thursday, Apple also removed the app of news outlet Quartz from China's App Store. The news organization told The Verge that Apple has removed its mobile app after complaints from the Chinese government, and said it had received a notice from Apple that the app "includes content that is illegal in China."

Demonstrations in Hong Kong began in March in response to an unsigned legal bill that threatened to allow extradition to mainland China. Since then, the protests have to expanded to demand that the city state retains its broader democratic rights. The special administrative region maintains separate governing and economic systems from that of mainland China under the principle of "one country, two systems".

Update 12:30 p.m.: In an internal Apple memo, Tim Cook notes that the removal of HKmap Live was a difficult decision but argues that the app was being for illegal purposes and in violation of App Store rules.
It is no secret that technology can be used for good or ill. This case is no different. The app in question allowed for the crowdsourced reporting and mapping of police checkpoints, protest hotspots, and other information. On its own, this information is benign. However, over the past several days we received credible information, from the Hong Kong Cybersecurity and Technology Crime Bureau, as well as from users in Hong Kong, that the app was being used maliciously to target individual officers for violence and to victimize individuals and property where no police are present. This use put the app in violation of Hong Kong law. Similarly, widespread abuse clearly violates our App Store guidelines barring personal harm.
Cook provided no details on specific incidents tied to HKmap Live.

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atomic.flip

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Tim Cook, you are a coward and a hypocrite. Period, end of story.
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I think Apple should now remove Waze, since it also tracks police ambushes.

Ask Tim Cook what he thinks human rights are. He will show you a rainbow watch band.
I think the Board Of Directors should remove Tim Cook. Waze is just fine where it is. Then Apple should get serious about moving manufacturing outside of China. Samsung has already declared it is doing so.
 

sirozha

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It's a tough call, I think they did the right thing as controversial as it is
Cook has just lost all his credibility when it comes to human rights advocacy. Why did he fold so easily? Because not only would Apple have lost its Chinese markets, but it would also be severely affected in terms of its manufacturing capabilities in China, had Cook ignored the Chinese demands.

By not having a contingency plan vis-à-vis its manufacturing capabilities outside China, Cook allowed Apple to be strong armed by the Chinese dictatorship.

Incidentally, this has nothing to do with the trade war instigated by Trump. This would have happened even without the trade war. The reliance on the market and the manufacturing facilities of a ruthless dictatorship makes you defenseless of its blackmail. The logistics guru like Cook should have known it. China has just raped one of America’s greatest companies.

This is a new world we are living in as of this morning. China has just learned that they can blackmail everyone, including America. Good on Google for leaving China years ago. Next step? Trump should ban Google from giving its OS to Chinese companies. Let HTC, Sony, and Samsung have Android. Strangle all Chinese smartphone manufacturers by denying them Android licenses.
 
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Marekul

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Frightening to think about the power China has over the United States.
Apple basically merged with the Chinese government. They get 0% Tax deal, and in exchange handed over all iCloud infrastructure to the Chinese totalitarian regime - including encryption keys.
Yeah, when real live is like a South Park episode - the rainbow flag waving, pro free speech, gay CEO in bed with communist china that imprisons and kills gays and hates free speech....
 

TheFluffyDuck

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Human rights are the utter acceptance and foundational narrative of minority groups as prescribed by the left.

Liberty, individuality, freedom of speech, separation of church and state, freedom of the press, the presumption of innocence, freedom from political persecution etc. They are not "human rights" anymore. But rather "far-right projects".
 

iReality85

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It's a tough call, I think they did the right thing as controversial as it is
All this hand wringing about it being a “tough call” for companies like Apple, Blizzard, NBA, etc.

There is nothing tough about it. It’s called principles and values, unless you consider profits and market share to be of equal or greater value.

What a bunch of hypocritical BS for these companies to go around lecturing the rest of us about their so-called progressive values when they turn around and kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party in the name of money.
 

iGeneo

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All this hand wringing about it being a “tough call” for companies like Apple, Blizzard, NBA, etc.

There is nothing tough about it. It’s called principles and values, unless you consider profits and market share to be of equal or greater value.

What a bunch of hypocritical BS for these companies to go around lecturing the rest of us about their so-called progressive values when they turn around and kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party in the name of money.
I think you should hold your own protest, burn all your Apple products and move to Samsung.

Walk the walk
 

sirozha

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I think you should hold your own protest, burn all your Apple products and move to Samsung.

Walk the walk
How about protesting by not buying any more Apple products instead of burning the existing ones. Apple couldn’t care if someone smashes the iPhone that they bought some time ago. Let’s see what happens when Americans decide to buy products of a company that gives a damn about human rights - Samsung, HTC, or Sony.
 

iGeneo

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How about protesting by not buying any more Apple products instead of burning the existing ones. Apple couldn’t care if someone smashes the iPhone that they bought some time ago. Let’s see what happens when Americans decide to buy products of a company that gives a damn about human rights - Samsung, HTC, or Sony.
Sure..

But no better time than now to support Samsung, HTC or Sony!

Do it! Show your support for those companies today! Put the Apple products in the drawer and show them who is boss!