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Apple Pulls Mac Pro Stocks from Most Retail Stores Ahead of WWDC

Kaibelf said:
Not necessarily. Apple tends to choke off a little remaining stock rather than sell through to avoid having someone buy something only to have it be rendered obsolete the next week by a refresh. It's smart business.
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I'll speculate that either

A) They're swapping newer CPU's into the existing units, if by some miracle Intel has gone for more than a week without changing to an incompatible socket

and/or

B) They're dumping them through MacMall et al who seem to push superseded models for a while after new ones come out
 
anthony11 said:
I'll speculate that either

A) They're swapping newer CPU's into the existing units, if by some miracle Intel has gone for more than a week without changing to an incompatible socket

and/or

B) They're dumping them through MacMall et al who seem to push superseded models for a while after new ones come out
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Well it isn't A, they have never done that and it would make no sense to financially or logistically.
 
sigmadog said:
I'm always amused by comments whining about "Apple's outrageously high-priced" pro-level workstations.

In 1992, my first Mac was a IIfx. It had a 40MHz Motorola processor, with (I think) about 20Mb RAM. It cost me $10,000.

Now, the base pro-model is orders of magnitude more powerful, for a quarter of the price.

Bah! Kids these days.
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And that's without mentioning about 65% inflation since then...crazy, eh.
 
Stetrain said:
9to5Mac has just posted model numbers for the new Mac Pro models:



http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/05/after...te-apple-to-finally-revamp-mac-pro-next-week/
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That article claims two new sizes for the iMac. If that is the case, then they may be redesigning the Apple Cinema Display, because it is essentially the same display as the 27-inch iMac in a different package. I'm sure that this was design for production efficiency (using the same thing for two products), so it stands to reason that with a new iMac will come a new ACD.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
They could redesign the handle by not actually having them protruding like that. It's a total waste of space to have those things sticking up.
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What would you do with that whopping 1.5" of extra space? It's already low enough to fit under any normal desk.
Making the top flat and having the handles as recesses would be much better. That way you can actually place external boxes on top of the unit.
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The top is already flat, and nothing stops one from placing stuff there.
 

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anthony11 said:
What would you do with that whopping 1.5" of extra space? It's already low enough to fit under any normal desk.

The top is already flat, and nothing stops one from placing stuff there.
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Semantic arguments and your workspace is not validation. Give me an ergonomic reason to have two giant handles vs an entirely flush design or one where the handles can be pulled out from the surface on the few occasions they are transported.

Breakout boxes and external bays come in all sizes and with forward facing ports. You obviously don't use them so the redundant handles don't get in your way.
 
Axemantitan said:
That article claims two new sizes for the iMac. If that is the case, then they may be redesigning the Apple Cinema Display, because it is essentially the same display as the 27-inch iMac in a different package. I'm sure that this was design for production efficiency (using the same thing for two products), so it stands to reason that with a new iMac will come a new ACD.
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It says new iMacs in two screen sizes, not two new screen sizes. That doesn't rule out that they're keeping the 21.5" and 27" sizes.
 
AMD Radeon 7970 please!

Here's hoping the design doesn't change much (if at all) from its current form.

And here's really hoping that the AMD 7970 is one of the video card options

And here's really really hoping that a dual hex-core is one of the options, as the 8-core Xeons are mucho expensive.
 
I hope they keep the same design but with internals updated for 1 DVD and a bunch of 2.5 inch drives with 2/3 slots for badly needed GPU upgrades. And of course USB 3 etc.

Most servers/towers now utilize 2.5 inch drives so they can get more of them packed inside. That would mean you could get a bunch of SSD's stuffed in there.

too bad I will have to wait to get one :(
 
anthony11 said:
Um, if companies never did something they'd never done before, we would have no products at all. Think about it.
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Fine, you are completely incorrect. That better? Apple are not recalling their existing Mac Pros so that they can rip the insides out and put new ones in before next week. Good lord.

Compared to landfilling old units it would make lots of sense.
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Apple don't landfill their old units, they sell them through their refurb store and continue to make a profit on them.
 
Ah...

I really want this but I keep picturing this happening:

Voice from offstage: "Today we have Jony Ive to discuss the new Mac Pro with you. Jony, take it away".

Jony: I bet you never expected to see THIS! (stabs original tower design with large knife).

(getting serious) but really.....the main reason we're all here is the new Mac Pro.

(lifts veil off small object on table) - it's an original iPod 5 GB.

Jony: Gotcha again! I kill me!
 
aurichie said:
It would be awesome if they slimmed down the Mac Pro.

Reduced the ridiculous number of spare drive bays, took out the optical drive and connectors for multiple graphics cards. They could really get the new Mac Pro down to a sensible size with an incredible new design that everyone will love and desire.

They also go way overkill on the memory slots. Does anybody really ever install 8xRAM boards in their Macs? 4 expansion slots should be good enough for everyone. Make the main board smaller and the entire Mac Pro can become a really beautiful slimline desktop machine for professionals.
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This is fail on so many levels.

Lets see, I don't use a Mac Pro for work ( but I am getting the new one, because I can :D ) , but I could EASILY fill up every single one of those drive bays no problem, hell my workstation has MORE bays and its already half full.

There are people who need and use those bays. People who use those optical drives.

I want more than one graphics card, my current workstation has four. SLI or CrossFireX in the Mac Pro would be great.

Overkill on the memory slots? My workstation has 18 Ram Slots, all of which are taken up.

Sensible size? its a workstation. Its a tool. not a all looks and no go iMac or Mac mini. Size does not matter.

This isn't a computer for the user at home, this is for a user who wants the power, the expansion, options, and tons of ports, slots, easy to upgrade, all that stuff.
 
I never understood why Mac Pros were stocked in stores at all. They can be ordered for personal pickup inside of two days. And it isn't like you see 4 or 5 Mac Pros being carried out of even the busiest locations on any given day.
 
Lower the price

The biggest problem with the current Mac Pro is the price - that's the biggest change they need to make to it IMO.
I've owned Apple Towers since the charcoal G4's and this is by far the most expensive Towers there have ever been.
It used to be that even the 'non pro' could afford a tower if they wanted the expandability and flexibility a tower offered, but that simply isn't the case now. An entry entry level unit was circa £1300 and even a Quad core Mac Pro was only £1399 in 2006.
Now they start from £2041 and that's simply too much money for many.
By pricing it so high Apple have effectively made the desktop a 'niche' product, which it never used to be.
I'm not a 'pro' but I love my Mac Pro and am a 'serious hobbyist' who does music and video and love that I have 8TB of storage in it and a Blu ray writer without any external kit attached to it.
In music, earth hum is a pain in the arse, so the less power supplies there are to contend with the better!
The Mac Pro is perfect for me even as a 'non pro'. it's very quiet, easy to upgrade and allows me to attached TWO screens of my choice.
The Apple tower used to be the choice of the professional and aspiring pro/serious hobbyist (like me), or those who simply wanted the extra grunt.
Now however many potential purchasers are being forced by the price to go for an iMac instead, which is a real shame.
I hope as much as anyone that New Mac pro's are announced, but they need to reduce the cost of the entry level model, otherwise their days will really be numbered and it wont be because people don't want them, it'll be simply that they can't afford them. Make them the right price and even the 'non pro' can become a customer again.
come on Apple!
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Semantic arguments and your workspace is not validation. Give me an ergonomic reason to have two giant handles vs an entirely flush design or one where the handles can be pulled out from the surface on the few occasions they are transported.

Breakout boxes and external bays come in all sizes and with forward facing ports. You obviously don't use them so the redundant handles don't get in your way.
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Alright, having owned 3 PowerMac G5s ( and buying the new Mac Pro ). Which are about the same weight wise.

These computers weigh almost 50 pounds, sometimes even more when you stuff them full of heavy hard drives.

I like having handles. My GAMEPC Gaming PC weighs about 40 pounds, I'm glad it has a handle when I lug it to a big LAN Party.

My workstation at work has recessed handles in the front and back. and I'm glad. Because it weighs a ton ( about 72 pounds )
 
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JazzyGB1 said:
The biggest problem with the current Mac Pro is the price - that's the biggest change they need to make to it IMO.
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The only way they'll get the cost down is if they release it in a slimline case without all the internal drive bays (and the massive power supply). Which with Thunderbolt might actually make sense. People who need all the expansion bays could buy an external Tbolt cage, one that could hold up to a dozen drives and still be smaller than the existing Mac Pro case.

It would also allow the new slimline main unit to double as a rackmountable blade server, helping Apple to replace the Xserve without supporting a dedicated server form factor.

I doubt Apple will go this way...but it's possible.
 
sigmadog said:
I'm always amused by comments whining about "Apple's outrageously high-priced" pro-level workstations.

In 1992, my first Mac was a IIfx. It had a 40MHz Motorola processor, with (I think) about 20Mb RAM. It cost me $10,000.

Now, the base pro-model is orders of magnitude more powerful, for a quarter of the price.

Bah! Kids these days.
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I remember that $10,000 price tag seemed crazy high, especially in 1992 dollars. I opted for an SI model at a mere $3000.
 
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