Apple Pulls watchOS 5 Beta 1 From Developer Portal After Reports of Bricked Devices

[justperry]

It’s a beta. Crashes are normal and expected, and I would not call a device bricked unless there was no fix or rescue available. This is not bricking.

Agreed .... bricking tends to be when you make unauthorised changes, such as rooting/jailbreaking, or custom firmware on a 3DS etc, which void warranties. With this, you just send the device away and it gets fixed.

I disagree, bricked is when you as a consumer can't (normaLLY) solve the problem and need special gear to un-brick the software/firmware on the device.

I bricked several devices, one was a router, flashed it with firmware which later got bricked, needed to buy a serial cable and solder it to the print to upload the firmware again but it worked.
I got another AP(Acces Point) lying here which I put wrong firmware in, I actually have to remove a chip and upload the firmware to it with a special programming device, since the AP isn't that expensive I won't do it, also the chip is tiny, someone on my job can desolder it but I need the programming device.
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Rubbish. A device is bricked when the device ceases to function and the user can take no action at home to remedy the problem. Being able to send the bricked device halfway around the world to Apple so that they can fix it with hardware and software not publicly available does not make the device any less bricked.

Exactly this, but I would say for 99.99% of users, some of them are smart enough and have the tools to do it themselves.
But, I don't think you can do this yourself on an Apple watch.

Some people have had other problems. My problem is the watch displays a red exclamation mark. The only remedy is to send it back into Apple.

-Jp

That's why I said true/might be true.

 

[TrueBlou]

Rubbish. A device is bricked when the device ceases to function and the user can take no action at home to remedy the problem. Being able to send the bricked device halfway around the world to Apple so that they can fix it with hardware and software not publicly available does not make the device any less bricked.



Some people have had other problems. My problem is the watch displays a red exclamation mark. The only remedy is to send it back into Apple.

-Jp

At least it’ll be rectified, that’s the main thing. Though it would be nice if, in the future, Apple considered a developer only debug intface. So that we could hook them up to our Mac’s, perform a restore and save everyone time and Apple money.

 

[zoonyx]

At least it’ll be rectified, that’s the main thing. Though it would be nice if, in the future, Apple considered a developer only debug intface. So that we could hook them up to our Mac’s, perform a restore and save everyone time and Apple money.

Looks like I dodged a bullet here. I'm 'unofficially' testing, but experienced no such problems. The whole update/reset process from OS4 onwards seems to have got progressively slower, with multiple reboots required.

However, I'll be careful not to reset until a later beta is out!

 

[TrueBlou]

Looks like I dodged a bullet here. I'm 'unofficially' testing, but experienced no such problems. The whole update/reset process from OS4 onwards seems to have got progressively slower, with multiple reboots required.


However, I'll be careful not to reset until a later beta is out!

I didn’t have any issues either, though I’m using a S3. While the article mentions S2 being predominantly affected, I don’t know if it’s exclusively S2.


Still, doesn’t bother me anyway, I can cope with a couple of days turnaround with Apple if something does go wrong.


Though I do think it would make sense for us to be provided with cables, for a small fee. It’d sure save Apple some moohla not having to deal with it.

 

[pelowj]

At least it’ll be rectified, that’s the main thing. Though it would be nice if, in the future, Apple considered a developer only debug intface. So that we could hook them up to our Mac’s, perform a restore and save everyone time and Apple money.

Totally — Plus, it's on a device I have no problem being without for a couple of weeks. I'd never install this kind of release on a production device!

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

There's a reason that Apple highly highly recommends you install the betas on only test devices. Too many non-developers join in just to get the new versions early and suffer the consequences.

 

[itsmilo]

I thought it had bricked mine. Mine froze on the install circle for a few hours then I had to reboot the watch by holding in both buttons. It did a few reboots and then stayed on the white Apple logo for ages then it started. Thought I was going to have to take it in for repair.

This even happened to my series 0 on one of the iOS 11 updates

 

[macintoshmac]

There's a reason that Apple highly highly recommends you install the betas on only test devices. Too many non-developers join in just to get the new versions early and suffer the consequences.

That's why I feel it was great when development program cost $99 entry.

 

[Hoosier317]

Ahhh...that explains it. I have the profile installed and couldn’t figure out why it couldn’t find the update last night.

 

[pnoyblazed]

I guess I’m one of the lucky ones...

 

[TrueBlou]

I guess I’m one of the lucky ones...

Truly you have been blessed by god my friend. What’s this weeks lotto numbers going to be?

 

[MrGimper]

I guess I’m one of the lucky ones...

I wouldn't consider myself lucky if I installed an update that was later pulled for being faulty.

 

[ErikGrim]

This is why Public Betas are usually released late. So that we do not have an epidemic-level issue before us.

There are no public betas for the watch of course

 

[windywalks]

That's why I feel it was great when development program cost $99 entry.

It still does.

 

[bbeagle]

My bad, it's sometimes difficult for me to figure out who's being sarcastic over text

It's not your bad. It's Candlelight's bad. If you're posting sarcastic comments, you NEED to include an emoji or some reference that it's sarcastic. Otherwise, the quote is treated as a comment said truthfully.

 

[macduke]

I still sometimes catch crap from people when I say that it’s risky to install unfinished software on their primary devices. Even new software that was just released has bricked devices in the past. Just chill and give it some time—especially if you’re not a developer. And if you absolutely must use the beta, at least wait a couple versions until it’s more stable!

 

[TheSkywalker77]

And this is why we don't do developer betas kids!

 

[GadgetBen]

So it’s not a stable release then?

 

[ejfontenot]

I didn’t get the the exclamation, but stopped at the Apple logo on my S3 LTE. No reboots would work. Shipped off for repair yesterday.

 

[coolkid93]

Exactly the reason why I don’t update any of my products to the 1st,2nd or even 3rd beta Lol. To many bugs and this happens

 

[Solver]

I never use a beta 1 on my Apple watch. But, since I had a spare...

 

[Niclisten]

Apple software is still buggy!

All software is buggy.

 

[LoveToMacRumors]

Yep, bricked my S2. Being picked up today for repair.

Did you get a new AW?

 

[Chaotic77]

Rubbish. A device is bricked when the device ceases to function and the user can take no action at home to remedy the problem. Being able to send the bricked device halfway around the world to Apple so that they can fix it with hardware and software not publicly available does not make the device any less bricked.



Some people have had other problems. My problem is the watch displays a red exclamation mark. The only remedy is to send it back into Apple.

-Jp

This happened to me on Series 2. Took it to Apple Store, and they replaced it. They said it is a known issue with S2 watches and the SOP is to replace even if the watch is out of warranty.

 

[MauiPa]

Cue the comments, see Apple's software is still buggy*.


* It's a Developer release, it might contain bugs like this one.

Dah! its a Developer Beta. No customer would ever see this.
[doublepost=1528299269][/doublepost]Seems the Trolls don't understand the concept of the Beta release program. hmmm. there is a trend here. LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, preponderance of inane comments.