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I'm on 18.7.2 and plan to stay on this for the time being. Now, this annoying Settings notification appeared trying to push iOS26.1 and I'm guessing it will remain until I update?


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I don’t know what you’re talking about. That is false, other than Mac. While it is interesting that there’s a beta for 18.7.3 for my SE3, On IOS 14-17, if your device was eligible for the latest version, you only got 2 security updates for your current version, and if you wanted further fixes, had to update to the latest major OS available.
Ok, seems like you're right. Providing how bad iOS26 reception seems to be (statistically) it will be interesting to observe Apple's attitude: "no further security updates guys" blackmail or "ok I respect your aversion (for now)" acceptance. It's December and my iPhone 13 gets 18.7.3. So far so good.
 
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I think I’m done with the upgrades that offer nothing I need.

Safari on Tahoe on my Mac & iPhone doesn’t work properly with comments on a site I frequent so I”ve not bothered updating my iPad.

I’ve also delayed updating my work MacBook Pro, but that’ll get forced to Tahoe.

I’m happy with 18 on my iPad.

Seen some issues with Tahoe on my personal MacBook Pro, like it won’t search for keywords in my pdf’s etc in finder so once that is fixed I think I’ll turn off auto update on my other devices too.

Literally nothing exciting about a new Mac OS anymore. Same goes for windows too, not interested in windows 11 on anything.
 
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I'm on 18.7.2 and plan to stay on this for the time being. Now, this annoying Settings notification appeared trying to push iOS26.1 and I'm guessing it will remain until I update?


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That doesn't bother me one bit. When I saw that, I was just concerned that the update had already downloaded and was ready to be installed on my iPhone 13.

I don't have a problem with iOS 26, it actually looks nice but I took a performance hit and was worried what the performance would be like with iOS 27, 28 etc. Just got flashbacks to iOS 7 with my iPad 2/3.

I don't mind the badge on the settings app.
 
Ok, seems like you're right. Providing how bad iOS26 reception seems to be (statistically) it will be interesting to observe Apple's attitude: "no further security updates guys" blackmail or "ok I respect your aversion (for now)" acceptance. It's December and my iPhone 13 gets 18.7.3. So far so good.
I agree that it’s interesting to watch, and I’m admittedly surprised there’s a .3 , given their usual stubbornness. But I’m definitely not complaining!
 
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I'm on 18.7.2 and plan to stay on this for the time being. Now, this annoying Settings notification appeared trying to push iOS26.1 and I'm guessing it will remain until I update?


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I created a shortcut so I could remove Settings from my home screen and still have access without digging for it in the App Library.
 

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Ok, seems like you're right. Providing how bad iOS26 reception seems to be (statistically) it will be interesting to observe Apple's attitude: "no further security updates guys" blackmail or "ok I respect your aversion (for now)" acceptance. It's December and my iPhone 13 gets 18.7.3. So far so good.
Apple will most likely stay the course. The real test will be developers reacting to the usage stats. If 2 years from now they want to drop iOS 18, the prospect of losing 30% of their user base may make it worth maintaining compatibility.
 
Apple will most likely stay the course. The real test will be developers reacting to the usage stats. If 2 years from now they want to drop iOS 18, the prospect of losing 30% of their user base may make it worth maintaining compatibility.
Yes, Apple will stay the course but may make some compromises toward "classic", clean approach.

Developers have nothing to say, it's product manager decision I suppose. I cannot imagine any app provider dropping support for pre-LG iOS versions anytime soon (4-5 years) even if user base drops to few %. Ok, development is more complicated (2 different UI designs to support and test) but more complicated apps (where it could be a problem) from top app providers use their own design language anyway (Google, Meta) and use system UI elements only where necessary.
 
Not sure if my mom’s iPhone 11 can handle iOS 26. I updated her iPad Air 3 (2019) to iPadOS 26 and it’s super laggy now, basically unusable, Can’t downgrade back to iPadOS 18. So better to leave the iPhone 11 on iOS 18, I guess..
 
What so many naysayers here seem to forget is the complexity of present-day OS versions compared to their forbears. The various avenues of interconnectivity are also more far-reaching. Ideally, releases should be slower but everyone expects some new thing every year. What you see is the price for that.
 
What so many naysayers here seem to forget is the complexity of present-day OS versions compared to their forbears. The various avenues of interconnectivity are also more far-reaching. Ideally, releases should be slower but everyone expects some new thing every year. What you see is the price for that.
Yes, a more complex system requires more deliberate software development planning/execution and continued review and expansion of test plans/procedures, particularly regression testing. Can't think of any justification for the multi-trillion$ Apple to fail understand this and act accordingly. Let's not forget that unlike others, such as Microsoft, Apple controls every aspect of hardware and software on their devices.

If the pace leads to teams being unable to effectively accomplish these tasks and maintain the desired level of quality, it's management's responsibility to pump the brakes and figure out how to fix it. At the end of the day, management sets priorities and if those priorities happen to place "release new stuff every year" above "make a solid product," it's still an "Apple" problem.
 
Is it legal to trigger an update notification with external intervention when automatic update settings are already disabled?
 
Yes, a more complex system requires more deliberate software development planning/execution and continued review and expansion of test plans/procedures, particularly regression testing. Can't think of any justification for the multi-trillion$ Apple to fail understand this and act accordingly. Let's not forget that unlike others, such as Microsoft, Apple controls every aspect of hardware and software on their devices.

If the pace leads to teams being unable to effectively accomplish these tasks and maintain the desired level of quality, it's management's responsibility to pump the brakes and figure out how to fix it. At the end of the day, management sets priorities and if those priorities happen to place "release new stuff every year" above "make a solid product," it's still an "Apple" problem.
Agreed. Unlike others I haven't experienced issues like disappearing icons or indeed any of my usual requirements not working. Over a number of MacOS and iOS versions I see slow interaction with playing music via Airplay to HomePods but everything works. TVOS had an issue with audio synching in Netflix but I resolved that by moving to a beta version.
I'm sure we all have very different workflows - it sounds as if my mine is perhaps more limited and less demanding that those used by others.
 
Is it legal to trigger an update notification with external intervention when automatic update settings are already disabled?
At some point Apple will flip the switch and upgrade iOS even with automatic updates disabled.
 
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