My thoughts exactly, Why not four processor slots especially with their new cooling system ever since G5's
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Apple: Quad-Core Processors in New Macs
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My thoughts exactly, Why not four processor slots especially with their new cooling system ever since G5's
You do realize that today only Netburst CPUs are available for 4 socket systems, right?
Do you think that the "new cooling system" could handle four 150-watt sockets?
No, but I'm certain that they can design a cooling system that is suitable for four sockets. Dont you think?
or a quad-head bat
...or half an octo headed bat...
Ok This post is getting silly. It started out quite well, but is just silly now....
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A bigger issue for multi-core notebooks is "Can programs take advantage of multi-core processors without causing the fan to get very loud and dropping battery life by 50%."
My MacBook C2D runs cool and has great battery life, until I run something that gets both cores really going. Then the fan revs way up and battery charge estimates drop down into the 90 minute range. If I turn off one of the cores (a preference) then this doesn't happen.
MacTechNews.de notes an interesting blurb on Apple's Creative Suite 3 promo page:
In it, Apple claims:
At this time there are no Quad-Core Intel processors being used in any Macs, however, they may simply be referring to Quad-Core Mac Pros, which do contain two Dual-Core Intel Processors. Apple UK's store had previously had a more revealing slip up with the claims of "8-core processing power" on Mac Pros -- which they quickly corrected.
Rumors of Apple's use of Quad-core processors began in November 2006, with expectations that an 8-Core Mac Pro was coming soon.
I think it is the latter part in MacRumors article... "however, they may simply be referring to Quad-Core Mac Pros, which do contain two Dual-Core Intel Processors." that is correct.
Apple confuses their self, the following link, http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=2CB5E8C0&nclm=MacPro, comes under the header "Quad Core: Up to 3.0Ghz" and then in the heart of the page next to the Intel Xeon processor image Apple states "Dual-Core Intel Xeon up to 3Ghz - Every Mac Pro offers the incerdible power of two 64-bit Dual-Core... ...choose the processor speed - 2Ghz, 2.66Ghz, or 3Ghz"
of course 2 64-bit Dual-Core or 2 x 2 = 4 or Quad Core...
at least that's how I'm seeing it... it's just Apple "speak" making things confusing.
But don't get me wrong... an actual dual Quad Core Power Mac announcement soon for a total of 8 core Mac is not a bad thing!!!
Good grief. Like I said, though... "Because the softawre can't effectively use [128] cores."
Servers waste cycles left and right. You'd only need half the cores of big servers if the software knew what to do with it all... So much wasted energy. Not that I'm an environmentalist or anything, but there's nothing wrong with saving energy where we can.
-Clive
The two apps I know of and work with can take advantage or four cores: Logic and Stata. Stata can be ordered for one, two, or four core systems. I don't know about other apps.
By the way, the reason I believe this slip-up to be of the "leak" nature is because it mentions dual and quad cores... tha Apple Store only sells dual-dual-core Mac Pro models. Thus every system is a quad-core comprised of dual-ccore proessors... There is no choice... yet.
I'm sure someone has to have said this already... right?
-Clive
I'm sure someone has to have said this already... right?
-Clive
Could this possibly mean that the imac could have a bto 4 core processor. It says "Every new mac features powerful dual-core or quad-core processors. Just a thought. I've seen bigger stretches in this forum before, but maybe thats how they plan on filling the gap between the iMac and Mac Pro???
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I think it is a bit of a typo myself...
PROCESSORS should have read PROCESSING.....
Then they would have been accurate.. that said, the ammount of cores WILL increase, and probably before spring is over
I think it is a bit of a typo myself...
PROCESSORS should have read PROCESSING.....
Then they would have been accurate.. that said, the ammount of cores WILL increase, and probably before spring is over
The iMac would require:
1) a Xeon compatable Mo-Board/chipset for the iMac -or- Quad-core chips that are socket-compatable with current systems (niether of which exist, BTW).
2) significant cooling enhancements to prevent the CPU from melting a hole in the back of the case. "Melted SATA cables... Yay!
3) A stubborn Apple, refusing, once again, to give consumers what they want: a mid-range prosumer tower.
So far, only criterion #3 has been met.
-Clive
My apologies...
I see what you mean, although it is odd that they would use one term above and another down below. c'est la vie
I see what you mean, although it is odd that they would use one term above and another down below. c'est la vie
Eh... yes and no. Scientific apps can definitely use 16 cores in a heartbeat. Same thing with rendering and encoding tasks. Other more mainstream apps though definitely are less likely to use more cores.
Also, Apple most likely hasn't tuned its scheduler to run on so many cores, so the OS itself probably has diminishing returns with increased core counts.
Must Be A Slow News Day
This is old news since Tuesday. Just another example of marketing deliberately leaking a hint of what's about to be. With the iPhone premiering June 11, That SteveNote is gonna be one hell of a jam packed set of new products in one two hour super SteveNote.
Maybe this portends we'll get most of the new line introduced in May. I sure hope this points toward Kentsfield iMacs or better still, a new Kentsfield consumer-tower line of just plain Macs.
This is old news since Tuesday. Just another example of marketing deliberately leaking a hint of what's about to be. With the iPhone premiering June 11, That SteveNote is gonna be one hell of a jam packed set of new products in one two hour super SteveNote.
Maybe this portends we'll get most of the new line introduced in May. I sure hope this points toward Kentsfield iMacs or better still, a new Kentsfield consumer-tower line of just plain Macs.
Haha fair enough. That made my afternoonFor the same reason you wouldn't refer to
four bats as a pair of two-headed bats
Cheers.
WWDC has 3 different letters in it.
I don't think anyone believes that rumor. To me it doesn't make sense to start a contract in the middle of the month when existing ones are month to month. Plus, WWDC doesn't seem like an appropriate forum seeing as at present time most can't develop for the iPhone.
Apple's website disagrees with you: "Every new Mac features powerful dual-core or quad-core Intel processors..." see?
-=|Mgkwho
The way I see it they are refering to "Every Mac". So, every mac now comes with a C2D processor. The Mac Pro however can have two C2D processors making it a quad-core processor. The wording is just really confusing.
Basically...
MacBook, MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, iMac all come with a single C2D processor.
Mac Pro comes with dual C2D processors.
If it read like how some people are suggesting in this thread then every Mac would have dual processors or quad processors. It's a simple case of horrible writting.
Basically...
MacBook, MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, iMac all come with a single C2D processor.
Mac Pro comes with dual C2D processors.
If it read like how some people are suggesting in this thread then every Mac would have dual processors or quad processors. It's a simple case of horrible writting.
correct
it is indeed an old news.
hardmac.com has published 2 article about hte Xeon Quad Core 5355, demonstrating how to install such CPU in current Mac Pro and what is the impact of doubling cores on performance level:
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/70/
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/72/
concerning an iMac powered by a Xeon, it is already possible thanks to Low Voltage / Low Power Xeon released recently by Intel. But there are at least 2 problems:
- need an entirely new motherboard (so a serious revision of current iMac hardware)
- not cost effective, as current iMac logic board use the same hardware basis than the MB Pro.
I also think that there is room for a Conroe powered mini tower, as the iMac will mostly for cost and design remains similar to the MB Pro hardware.
This is old news since Tuesday. Just another example of marketing deliberately leaking a hint of what's about to be. With the iPhone premiering June 11, That SteveNote is gonna be one hell of a jam packed set of new products in one two hour super SteveNote.
Maybe this portends we'll get most of the new line introduced in May. I sure hope this points toward Kentsfield iMacs or better still, a new Kentsfield consumer-tower line of just plain Macs.
it is indeed an old news.
hardmac.com has published 2 article about hte Xeon Quad Core 5355, demonstrating how to install such CPU in current Mac Pro and what is the impact of doubling cores on performance level:
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/70/
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/72/
concerning an iMac powered by a Xeon, it is already possible thanks to Low Voltage / Low Power Xeon released recently by Intel. But there are at least 2 problems:
- need an entirely new motherboard (so a serious revision of current iMac hardware)
- not cost effective, as current iMac logic board use the same hardware basis than the MB Pro.
I also think that there is room for a Conroe powered mini tower, as the iMac will mostly for cost and design remains similar to the MB Pro hardware.