Hum - as it had to be made using Apple Pay, most people probably would have also set it to use their Apple Card’s which would have had a 0% interest for 12-24 months.
Corporations engage in many, many practices to try and bend the law and pay as little taxes as they can. And they do illegal things because they have enough power to defy nations.
It’s true. These companies have enough resources to legally challenge governments who create bad laws and try to screw with American companies.
Apple used legal loopholes the same as most people who minimize their tax burden via tax avoidance.
Yep this was all legallly setup with everyone knowing the tax structure.
There have been many, many posts on this matter alone and doesn’t need to be rehashed.
Different strokes for different folks. I pay less taxes but have a top tier health plan. Who is the “they”. People are dying because they can’t get healthcare because of apples’ greed. That is just spin.
This has been rehashed so many times I don’t know who told you this is tax evasion when everything was setup legally.
Well said.
What? This is just more spin. Has nothing to do with Tim Cook. Posters now believe that companies should not try to pay as little taxes as possible, the same as private citizens. And “billionaires” the last we all looked have the same rights as non-billionaires.
People who support apples corporate philanthropic efforts understand apple’s corporate mission is not to save the world. That apple has given voluntarily through the years is built into their ethos. The detractors don’t understand this.
Just some more spin. I’m glad apple does what it does and the people who don’t like apple for whatever the reason, do not have to become a customer of the company.
No they don't. They openly lie, that's the point. Minimising taxes and telling lies to avoid paying taxes are two pretty different things. If you're asked "how many iPhones did you sell in Italy for the last 10 years" and you say "zero, we sold them all in Ireland with Italian consultants" so you don't pay those taxes until forced, you're lying. There's no other way to see it.
To me "they" is "all people who need it". I think being alive shouldn't be a privilege, especially now that the economy is tough. But, even if that wasn't the case, "they" is all people who are so debilitated by sickness they can't work and afford private healthcare and our free healthcare system can't handle. I don't know about you but I want them alive and corporations don't.
Apple has lied and committed tax evasion for years. There's absolutely no doubt about it. Then, from a legal standpoint, they never got sentenced because, when accused (years and years later, after making tons of money) they settled. But I can still very legally call them tax evaders. By the way, again, they haven't stopped after that first accusation. They stole money from my community for decades now.
No they don’t lie any more than you and I. Governments lie as well, tbh.
No minimizing taxes is a thing that all companies try to do. There were no lies told by apple.
No that was the business arrangement that was inked and now you accusing them of lying.
There’s no other way to you to maybe see it. Others have a different viewpoint.
Okay they are thieves. That doesn’t mean initially what they set up wasn’t legal.
Listen you can say what you want it doesn’t mean any of it is factual. Other than there was a fight about the situation after the fact.
Well if you believe apple has committed tax evasion you’re welcome to do so. I believe they followed the law that was setup for this purpose. The connection between people dying and apple committing tax avoidance is ridiculous.
It’s a very real connection. Ordinary people’s taxes are used to pay corporate welfare, as well to pay for tax cuts for corporations. So those ordinary’s people’s taxes could’ve instead been spent to fund universal healthcare.
Never had the possibility to deduct almost anything from taxes in my life except medical bills, because of my kinds of contracts. Never lied to the government about anything, even if I'm not a fan of many things they do. I have the right to ask for foreigners who make money here to give the government what they owe, like I do.
This conversation is over. They said they were selling stuff in Ireland while selling it in Italy. There's an infinity of records. Zero doubt about it. You are denying the fabric of reality and I don't think it makes sense to talk to you. I don't know how to debate this anymore because 2+2 is 5 to you.
Thanks for the civil discourse. Obviously there is a lot of emotional collateral when dealing with these topics and everybody has their point of view. Happy New Year.
It's not a real connection. Its as if someone said if government stopped the pork billions could be spent saving lives and feeding people. It's a false equivalency.
Whatever the opinion, they try to do something more than the average person. People who as dishing on them, it's my opinion it's do as I say and not as I do. And jail time is to be had for tax evasion. Tax avoidance not so much.
False equivalency. One can either move out of the USA or change the system. As long as money is the medium of exchange here there will be a discrepancy between the bottom and the top. Good for those who made it to the top. They did not push the others to the bottom. And good for apple over several years for the charitable donations.
