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Not integrated, soldered. In general, integrated GPUs (IGPs) use system memory (RAM), that is their definition. If the GPU has it's own memory, then it is a discrete GPU.

In MBPs, the GPUs are soldered onto the logic board to save space but in iMacs the GPUs are on separate MXM boards.


I have put the discrete GPU of the MBP type and of the iMac type in the same category to keep it simple and because they are both mobility GPU with similar performance. But you are correct...
 
It will be interesting to see how it all turns out given the rumours are that like the 13.3 MacBook Pro they're going to move to the HD 3000 GPU unless Apple is going to hold off for the Ivy bridge refresh but that would be minimum 6 months away if that was the case.
 
It will be interesting to see how it all turns out given the rumours are that like the 13.3 MacBook Pro they're going to move to the HD 3000 GPU unless Apple is going to hold off for the Ivy bridge refresh but that would be minimum 6 months away if that was the case.

They are forced to use Intel HD3000 ulness they keep C2D or use AMD architecture....

Even if the wait for Ivy Bridge they will still use Intel GPU (successor of HD3000) because it is INSIDE the CPU you cannot avoid using it....
 
Crimeny...what a bunch of whiners and daydreamers who comment here. It is a ****ing computer. There are limitations (design and technical) from both from Apple and Intel. Having said that:

I hope the new Air has a backlit keyboard.

This I can agree with, but rarely does Apple remove a feature and have a change of heart down the road and re-introduce it.

I hope there is an option for a matte screen.

Obviously, you have not used a MBA....I would not call either the 11 or 13 glossy. And yes, my 15" MPB has the matte display....I do know the difference.

Here's hoping for backlit keyboard also! +SB, +Thunderbolt, +Retina display, whoops did I say that?

Retina? Seriously?

I just wish apple offers more colors for it's users. Sure keeping the color consistent is a good symbol for what the company represents, but lately, i've been seeing way too much alum mbp and it's just annoying. No originality at all, same old designs. No matter how good the design is, too much of anything is never good...

WTF? This is not Dell; it is Apple. There is silver.....and white if you want plastic. Maybe they come out with a black Macbook Air this time. But seeing too many aluminum MB is annoying? Switch to an Acer then....and be different....

diff colors might be fresh. ..

Same as above. No way is Apple going to have different SKU's.....for colors alone....on a fuggin' computer....

I am just hoping they wont put Intel graphic card as they do in 13 inch MBP.

You must not read many forums or whatnot. It has been told countless times why Apple is now using Intel graphics.

Would love to see the MBA in a range of colours similar to the iPod Nano. They would fly off the shelves.

Yes, because the current iteration (silver only) isn't flying off the shelves.
 
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Wouldn't a backlit keyboard scare the pony?

I'm not really hoping for much more than Sandybridge CPU's and the option for 8GB of RAM. Not sure I'd go for the 8GB, but I'd like to see the option.
 
On June 24th, any one can make up these rumors. We know Lion's release is within a month, meaning the GM seed is at most 1 - 2 weeks away from being seeded. Which also means, new Macs will be built with Lion starting in 1 - 2 weeks.

No freaking kidding.
 
Obviously, you have not used a MBA....I would not call either the 11 or 13 glossy. And yes, my 15" MPB has the matte display....I do know the difference.

I agree with everything else you say, but the MBA screen is glossy. It is almost the definition of glossy.

The "glossy" MBP can only be described as uber-glossy - with an extra layer of glossiness on top :p

PS Yes the matte MBP15 screen is great. The MBA glossy panels are ok. The MBP glossy-with-even-more-glass gives me eyestrain.
 
On June 24th, any one can make up these rumors. We know Lion's release is within a month, meaning the GM seed is at most 1 - 2 weeks away from being seeded. Which also means, new Macs will be built with Lion starting in 1 - 2 weeks.

No freaking kidding.

Just out of interest - at what point is the OS image put onto the internal HDD?

Is it pre- or post-assembly (of the computer)? I.e. do they write it onto the HDD before or after it's in the computer?
 
Most MacBook Air sold are of the 11.6-inch model. Why having less battery and power? Because in this kind of computer people want mobility. That is why a 7-inch (or so) MacBook Air will outsell any other MacBook.
 
Integrated on the Motherboard with shared memory with the system: like the nVidia 320m that you find in current Airs or the nVidia 9400m. Thay are FORBIDDEN by intel on core i3/i5/i7 computers. That is why apple decided to stick to C2D on current AIR.

That may have been one reason why the Air uses C2D, but the main reason is that when the current Air shipped, the ULV i5/i7 chips still had much higher power consumption than the ULV C2D chips of the time (18W vs 10W TDP), and you still had to add a GPU on top of that.

If the i5 was used, the Air would have had significantly reduced battery life, and possibly would have required a redesign in order to be able to dissipate more heat.

It's only now that the Sandy Bridge i5s are available, which integrate a decent GPU in a 17W TDP package, as well as offering other power saving features, that the i5 has become a realistic option.

Esternal GPU connected to the computer via express card, possible on the next AIRs through Thunderbolt Port. (this is a mere hypotesys because they still do not exist).

Interesting idea. With Thunderbolt there shouldn't be any reason why an external display with its own built in GPU, or perhaps even a GPU upgrade dongle (plug it in for gaming) isn't possible.
 
Most MacBook Air sold are of the 11.6-inch model. Why having less battery and power? Because in this kind of computer people want mobility. That is why a 7-inch (or so) MacBook Air will outsell any other MacBook.

I disagree - price is a v important reason for ppl purchasing the 11inch MBA (rather than the 13 inch) - there is a 470 USD difference between base 11inch and base 13inch where I live.
 
Any chance that the new Airs would get non-soldered RAM? Perhaps using the Intel HD gpu would leave enough space for clipped in RAM.

As long as the SSD is still swappable, I'd be happy. More happy with removable RAM, though.
 
I disagree - price is a v important reason for ppl purchasing the 11inch MBA (rather than the 13 inch) - there is a 470 USD difference between base 11inch and base 13inch where I live.
People considering economy vs. specifications would probably not end up with an Air. I bought my 11" purely for the size, I consider it the perfect "commuterputer"...
 
I guess we can't expect a early july release anymore because of this statement? Or am I wrong?

I want the new Air to be released now. Will buy one day one and it will be my first mac.
 
How about some more negative because you didn't post anything new in that topic or this one that no one knew already. :rolleyes:

That's strange I don't recall seeing anyone stating they are already in product - product has already been ramped up. But hey believe what you want - I could tell the exact building they are being produced in but hey NDAs are something of a bind.

Oh well no more from me . . . c'ya. :apple:
 
That may have been one reason why the Air uses C2D, but the main reason is that when the current Air shipped, the ULV i5/i7 chips still had much higher power consumption than the ULV C2D chips of the time (18W vs 10W TDP), and you still had to add a GPU on top of that.

No the problem was that Intel Integrated GPU in the first i3/i5/i7 series CPU (not sandybridge, the previous ones) sucked badly, and they COULD NOT add a GPU like the 320m on top of that because Intel DO NOT ALLOW an integrated GPU and nVidia chipset on the motherborad. So they decided to keep C2D because they could use nVidia 320m which was a lot superior to the GPU inside 1st gen core CPU.

Intel and nVidia have been in dispute over this matter for years, read here

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/1...uilding-chipsets-for-newest-intel-processors/

With the new AIRs you will not have this problem becasuse Intel HD3000 i.e, the GPU integrated inside the sandybrige core i3/i5/i7 is "nearly" on par with 320m.
 
Realistically it will probably sport the Sandy Bridge processor. Perhaps with an option for 8 GB RAM and perhaps an option for backlit keyboard. Also a slightly beefier battery. That's all I reckon. I doubt Thunderbolt will be added. But this is Apple after all who knows.
 
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Realistically it will probably sport the Sandy Bridge processor. Perhaps with an option for 8 GB RAM and perhaps an option for backlit keyboard. Also a slightly beefier battery. That's all I reckon. I doubt Thunderbolt will be added. But this is Apple after all who knows.

Did your magic ball tell you this? SB is obvious, 8GB is certainly possible, but Thunderbolt is also a given as it is Apple's newest I/O standard that will be in all their computers from now on. No idea why you think it won't be added.
 
Crimeny...what a bunch of whiners and daydreamers who comment here. It is a ****ing computer. There are limitations (design and technical) from both from Apple and Intel. Having said that:



This I can agree with, but rarely does Apple remove a feature and have a change of heart down the road and re-introduce it.



Obviously, you have not used a MBA....I would not call either the 11 or 13 glossy. And yes, my 15" MPB has the matte display....I do know the difference.



Retina? Seriously?



WTF? This is not Dell; it is Apple. There is silver.....and white if you want plastic. Maybe they come out with a black Macbook Air this time. But seeing too many aluminum MB is annoying? Switch to an Acer then....and be different....



Same as above. No way is Apple going to have different SKU's.....for colors alone....on a fuggin' computer....



You must not read many forums or whatnot. It has been told countless times why Apple is now using Intel graphics.



Yes, because the current iteration (silver only) isn't flying off the shelves.

I have to agree with you. Practicality be damned, let the ten year olds post away!
 
If they would make the low end 13 Air the same price as the low end 13 Pro, I'd get one. I know they won't but it'd be cool.
 
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