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Apple Reaches $200 Billion in Market Capitalization

NebulaClash said:
BUT BUT BUT, NO FLASH!!!!

BUT BUT BUT, FASCIST APP STORE POLICY!!!!

BUT BUT BUT, OVERPRICED!!!!

BUT, BUT, BUT, NETBOOKS!!!!!

Oh well, keep on trying, trolls.
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Not trolling, but actually telling you to switch your had on. For the love of God I love the Apple products I own. And I'm tempted to see an iPad in person.

But maybe you should rethink your attitude considering this.

Apple is striving to be the major gatekeeper when it comes to distribution of digital media - and the major controlling and dictating instance.

Apple doesn't give a **** about you or your comfort - they just want your buying history and make you buy more from the App Store.

And with sheep like you they will succeed. So Back On Topic: Time to buy more stock as soon as it's below 200. It will rise in the long term, especially with more sheep drawn into a perfectly controlled digital distribution environment.
 
swagi said:
Not trolling, but actually telling you to switch your had on. For the love of God I love the Apple products I own. And I'm tempted to see an iPad in person.

But maybe you should rethink your attitude considering this.

Apple is striving to be the major gatekeeper when it comes to distribution of digital media - and the major controlling and dictating instance.

Apple doesn't give a **** about you or your comfort - they just want your buying history and make you buy more from the App Store.

And with sheep like you they will succeed. So Back On Topic: Time to buy more stock as soon as it's below 200. It will rise in the long term, especially with more sheep drawn into a perfectly controlled digital distribution environment.
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what about that link? Steve Jobs was right. Google is EVIL. maybe you should take a look at these.

Despite Tough Talk, Google Still Censoring in China

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_still_censoring_in_china.php

Google Still Censoring, Less Likely to Leave China

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2010/03/analyst_google.html

4 years of Google bowing to chinese censorship. Who's evil now?
 
DaveSW said:
what about that link? Steve Jobs was right. Google is EVIL. maybe you should take a look at these.

Despite Tough Talk, Google Still Censoring in China

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_still_censoring_in_china.php

Google Still Censoring, Less Likely to Leave China

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2010/03/analyst_google.html

4 years of Google bowing to chinese censorship. Who's evil now?
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Leave and lose all that tasty revenue and analytics data to baidu? I don't think so! I honestly don't know how those guys make money.
 
DaveSW said:
what about that link? Steve Jobs was right. Google is EVIL. maybe you should take a look at these.
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Did you ever take into account, that he actually not meant:

Google is lying when talking about their mantra

but he actually meant:

Talking about not being evil as a company is BS. We are here to earn money.

I mean, honestly, Steve told us....

"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth — and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago"
 
swagi said:
Did you ever take into account, that he actually not meant:

Google is lying when talking about their mantra

but he actually meant:

Talking about not being evil as a company is BS. We are here to earn money.

I mean, honestly, Steve told us....

"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth — and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago"
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No that's not what he meant. you're wrong.
 
zombitronic said:
Yes, their stock price is, but market capitalization is not the same thing. I'm not sure if you were implying it, but they have not just soared into the number 3 spot.
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Actually it's almost the same thing, since market cap means share price TIMES the number of outstanding shares (i.e., sold to the public) of a company. In other words, if investors buy shares at the price above, Apple's market cap is, indeed, jumping up too.
 
BRLawyer said:
Actually it's almost the same thing, since market cap means share price TIMES the number of outstanding shares (i.e., sold to the public) of a company. In other words, if investors buy shares at the price above, Apple's market cap is, indeed, jumping up too.
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Well yea obviously but the way the poster in question posted, he seemed to imply that the market cap was the share price (seeing as they are both in the 200s)
 
I remember back when Apple was worth around $5bn and thinking how much better they would be if they could just get to the same size as Sun Microsystems (at the time around $19bn). Funny how times change isn't it? :D
 
smorris said:
And to put Apple, Microsoft, Berkshire, Wal-Mart, and Exxon-Mobile into perspective, Banco Santander hit $13 trillion in market capitalization today. :eek:
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I call BS. :-D

Banco Santander is a privately held firm, therefore it has no such thing as "market capitalization".

Finally, the entire U.S. economy for 2008 (the largest economy on the planet, for the last year numbers are currently available,) was only $14 trillion, so there's no way one single company, *ANYWHERE*, could have a higher value.

It may be "valued" at 13 trillion something, but not US Dollars.
 
ehurtley said:
I call BS. :-D

Banco Santander is a privately held firm, therefore it has no such thing as "market capitalization".

Finally, the entire U.S. economy for 2008 (the largest economy on the planet, for the last year numbers are currently available,) was only $14 trillion, so there's no way one single company, *ANYWHERE*, could have a higher value.

It may be "valued" at 13 trillion something, but not US Dollars.
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13 trillion peso = $100 :D
 
According to the Bolsa de Madrid website, Banco Santander's closing price today valued it at 85.8bn Euros or around 116.5bn US$

The bank isn't 100% privately held BTW.

DaveSW said:
13 trillion peso = $100 :D
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Seriously you should not mock. Our currency has fallen over 30% in value in two years. Yours could too.
 
Queso said:
According to the Bolsa de Madrid website, Banco Santander's closing price today valued it at 85.8bn Euros or around 116.5bn US$

The bank isn't 100% privately held BTW.


Seriously you should not mock. Our currency has fallen over 30% in value in two years. Yours could too.
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ROFL 100% privately owned their valuation is meaningless. Sorry I was not trying to mock your currency, I apologize. that was a joke. :)
 
Imagine how all those employees who had their warrant repriced are feeling... :p
 
smorris said:
Hey, I don't make up the news. I just report it.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=san

http://screen.yahoo.com/cb?pr=0/&mc=100000000000/&z=mc&vw=1&db=stocks&b=1
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Yahoo's market cap data is wrong.

You can verify this for yourself on any Yahoo Finance page in that list. Market cap is issued shares multiplied by current stock price. Take Santander Chile, the one allegedly with a 12.96T market cap. SAN has 181.37M shares, at a current value of $69.23--a market cap of about 12.5 BILLION (not trillion) dollars. Google has this right (12.56B). So does CNBC (12.6B). And Reuters (12.44B).

In order for it to be valued at 12.96T, it would need to have 187 billion issued shares. Needless to say, it does not.

There is no company with a market cap anywhere near even 1 trillion dollars.

If you were to believe Yahoo's chart, their top six entries (some of which are actually comparatively small companies) account for over 50% of the entire global market of public corporations, which only crossed 50 trillion for the first time in history 2 or 3 years ago.

Enersis (ENI) has a market cap of 13.91 billion on Google, Marketwatch, and CNBC, and Reuters has them at $14B. NTT's market cap is $68.98B, not Yahoo's fictional 2.90T. EOC's market cap: $13.68B, not $414.27B. PTR is at $25.14B, not $215.75B. Almost none of the Yahoo data is accurate as to market cap.
 
wilhoitm said:
This might put a lot of pressure on Microsoft's Courier, if they screw up with the Courier like they did with Windows Vista and the Zune, all bets are off
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... if it ever sees the light of day... MS got lucky with the success of the XBOX, albeit at a loss, for the first couple of years...
 
NebulaClash said:
BUT BUT BUT, NO FLASH!!!!

BUT BUT BUT, FASCIST APP STORE POLICY!!!!

BUT BUT BUT, OVERPRICED!!!!

BUT, BUT, BUT, NETBOOKS!!!!!

Oh well, keep on trying, trolls.
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I've got a news flash for you: It's Apple who has that money, not you. It's their success, not yours. You only fueled their engines with your dimes.

And all the money that you give them doesn't change a thing that people want Flash and netbooks, that Macs -are- overpriced and that their AppStore policy -is- fascist.

In the meantime, maybe you want to watch that Simpsons episode again and think about what it was trying to tell you.
 
matticus008 said:
Yahoo's market cap data is wrong.
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Thanks for the clarification. Last year when Apple was on the rise, I searched for a list of companies sorted by market capitalization, and that's what I came up with. I didn't see any other worldwide lists, so had nothing to compare it with.

Thanks
 
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Actually a better measure of size would be to include net debt to give enterprise value (EV). That way you'd get an idea of the value of all funds employed in the business. Not sure if apple has high amounts of debt, but those other companies may.
 
What year is it?

dukebound85 said:
i think you mean just around a 50% increase;)

In Dec 07: APPL was about 200
In Jan 08: APPL was about 160 neighborhood

I don't think apple will hit 300

I think 200 is overvalued personally
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Sorry, had my years wrong Dec 08/Jan 09 was my buy in, plus at the time I got ESPP discount. Price was about $72.

Regardless, I think you underestimate Apple's growth rate. However, if Apple suffers growing pains (like Toyota) or loses Jobs, you may be right.
 
With the comments here, it's obvious almost nobody here knows much about what market capitalization really means.:eek:

Advice: Go take a class at the local junior college. Be careful with your money and no matter what Apple's market cap is, diversify.

A lot of what is being said here is crazy talk similar to how people thought there was no real estate bubble, or that dot.com would overtake brick and mortar.

As much as Cramer annoys me, a few here know he is usually right. Personally, I love Apple products, but I also know when a company is flying so high, then they have to eventually come down to earth (Cisco, Webvan, Amazon, Yahoo, etc.)
 
nelsonx said:
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Actually a better measure of size would be to include net debt to give enterprise value (EV). That way you'd get an idea of the value of all funds employed in the business. Not sure if apple has high amounts of debt, but those other companies may.
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Apple has ZERO debt.
 
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