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People seem to have forgotten about ping, but Next to a new notification system, Ping is a major interest of mine. I think Ping is Apple's secret weapon they hope the competition has forgotten about.

They didnt forget about it...most people just call it Facebook
 
I'm not clear on why everyone is thinking this will be about your purchased music. It may have nothing to do with your library at all -- itunes purchased, ripped from CD or otherwise.

This could very well be about music subscriptions.

Subscribe to the complete itunes music library for $xx / month.

Doesn't matter if you already own it or not.
 
I think part of it is that with the Apple cloud, we wont actually have to upload our music. Apple would just scan iTunes or your computer to see what songs you already have and then they would allow you to stream those songs from their servers. But they wouldnt have to keep a separate copy of each song for every person.

this would be amazing, as my music collection is about 24,000 songs. it would save me from having to spend so much time re-uploading my CDs again. if this is the case, then i would switch from Amazon's cloud
 
I'm not clear on why everyone is thinking this will be about your purchased music. It may have nothing to do with your library at all -- itunes purchased, ripped from CD or otherwise.

This could very well be about music subscriptions.

Subscribe to the complete itunes music library for $xx / month.

Doesn't matter if you already own it or not.

Or perhaps some combination of the two, where for free you could stream your own music to any device, and for $$ you could stream any song in the iTunes database. This could be a bid to preempt Spotify, which may be coming to the US...someday.
 
I believe you can do this now.
No, Apple does not allow you to do this by default. They will do this for you once if you ask nicely enough but they are under no obligation to do this and in fact Apple explicitly states that backing up your content is your responsibility.
 
Don't kid yourselves. Whenever Apple finally gets around to launching their iCloud offering, there will most assuredly be a clause in the EULA that states something about how they are not responsible for the security and stability of your data (music). They have to. There is just no way that they can realistically assume responsibility for the security and stability of all of that data. If any of it were lost for any reason (and bad things do and will happen at some point) they could be held liable for that lost data to their users without some type of clause in their user agreement.

That being said, I'm sure they'll have all sorts of redundancies built into everything, but things can still happen. To put a play on words of Apple's recent iPhone ads: If you don't have a backup ... well, you don't have a backup. (And Apple's iCloud product should not be treated as a backup.)
 
To put a play on words of Apple's recent iPhone ads: If you don't have a backup ... well, you don't have a backup. (And Apple's iCloud product should not be treated as a backup.)

Uh, yes it is a backup. If it fails you have your local copy. If your local copy fails you have the backup. A backup is simply a redundant copy of your data.

What do you consider to be a backup?
 
How is Apple going to know what songs we have? Everyone tags their music differently.

What if they don't have some albums ?

I think all this cloud music is boring and no real purpose just a fad.
 
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Hell, if it is Lala plus an iPhone app, I'll be happy. Won't have to use audiogalaxy and keep my MacBook on all the time.
 
Uh, yes it is a backup. If it fails you have your local copy. If your local copy fails you have the backup. A backup is simply a redundant copy of your data.

What do you consider to be a backup?

Fine, go ahead and treat it as a backup, but it is not a real backup. In this case, it's your so-called "local copies" that are the real backup.

Also, you're assuming that everyone that decides to use cloud-based services will be keeping local copies of their data. That's a rather grand assumption to be making, given the level of technical knowledge of the average Apple consumer. I would be willing to bet that most people that will be using these things are going to forget about keeping any "local" copies of their data secure, because they will be under the dangerous assumption that their music is safe in the cloud. If you really believe that the average Apple customer that uses this service is going to be saying, "My data is backed up to the cloud, but I should still keep my local copies, just in case," then I'm afraid you're being just a wee bit delusional in that regard.

Amazon's recent EC2 outage is an example of how people mis-treated their cloud-based services (and the data store therein,) and these are companies with employees that should have known better. How well do you think the average Apple customer will fare in a similar situation, especially if there is any data loss in the "cloud"? (rhetorical question, btw.)
 
I'm not quite sure what the Cloud music is, is it like you can listen to /download lots of songs with no limit if you pay some money monthly? Like Spotify?
If they allowed users to use it for free with ads just like Spotify does it'd be awesome.
 
I'm not quite sure what the Cloud music is, is it like you can listen to /download lots of songs with no limit if you pay some money monthly? Like Spotify?
If they allowed users to use it for free with ads just like Spotify does it'd be awesome.

Cloud music can be like Spotify or Amazon/Google Music.
Spotify offers lots of songs with no streaming limit if you pay some money monthly. Amazon and Google music offer a virtual hard drive which allows you to upload your (bought) music. The uploaded music can be streamed to your devices. I think that kind of service will Apple offer.

I hope Spotify will be soon available in Germany. I can hardly wait!
 
Wow, so many rumours about this... Still waiting for Apple to bring the iTunes Music Store to Southeast Asia.
 
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