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TBH, I'm not bothered either way, the products I have now have the leads that make them work, future products will have the leads that make them work.
 
second, I fear, that a smaller and slimmer dock connector won't be able to support the weight of the device anymore.

Any cable or stand that connects the iPhone to a PC / Mac or automobile USB can be whatever size that you want.

The important thing is to give more space inside the iPhone itself.

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The magsafe idea some of you mentioned is a great idea, provided you can actually move data through a magsafe-attached cable in order to hard sync or behave like an iPod.
 
What exactly is wrong with the way hdmi connects, Sata can bee kinda annoying but hdmi is pretty easier to plug and unplug?

And that's exactly what's wrong with. It uses retention force solely to secure itself just like SATA. Which is a problem considering how shallow the actual HDMI port is.

Use thick HDMI cables and they fall out easily under their own weight. Try and connect multiple HDMI cables together in close proximity (as in the back of an AVR) and amongst other wires and they pull out easily. Bend the cables into tight spaces and again ...

The HDMI consortium know this is a problem, that's why they drafted a spec for a now connector with locking pins.
 
They offer similar functionality.

Not even close. USB is a small subset of the functionality offered by the 30-pin dock.
What micro USB would offer is compatibility with hundred of peripherals already made. Developers would only need to make apps with drivers.

There are MANY more peripherals for the 30-pin connector than there are for USB-device. USB is asymmetrical, and the phone will be acting as a device, not as a host.
 
Not even close. USB is a small subset of the functionality offered by the 30-pin dock.


There are MANY more peripherals for the 30-pin connector than there are for USB-device. USB is asymmetrical, and the phone will be acting as a device, not as a host.

That part is not actually a problem. The USB standard includes supplement known as USB OTG (On-The-Go). This is a special type of port which can function as either host or slave. You just need an adapter to get a full size USB-A (host) port.
 
That part is not actually a problem. The USB standard includes supplement known as USB OTG (On-The-Go). This is a special type of port which can function as either host or slave. You just need an adapter to get a full size USB-A (host) port.

Right, but as far as I know, that requires an AB jack, which is not what's being discussed here. The EU referendum (and the emerging standard worldwide) is to use a micro-B jack.

I don't _think_ you can support USB OTG over a traditional B style device/peripheral jack. (Please correct me if I'm wrong -- I had actually forgotten all about the USB OTG spec, so it's good to be reminded of these things) :)
 
All you would need is just a simple adapter that fits on top of the old connector equipped 3'rd party products.

Um, no. There is no room for adapters on any of my audio devices, as they would also have to include some sort of supporting cradle.
 
Well this is pointless "innovation."

I agree 100% with the sentiment that "thinner, lighter, more compact" is only a positive to a point. How much smaller do we actually need?

And sigh, if it does happen, it's one more adapter we'll all need to carry. I already have too much stuff to misplace...
 
I believe that Apple doesn't want to switch to Micro USB connection for three reasons:

1. The data transfer rate over Micro USB is quite slow compared to the 30-pin iPod dock connection.

2. Apple uses the 30-pin connector for way more than just charging and basic data transfers--for example, video output is also done through this connector.

3. Apple would have to re-write some the code in OS X and iOS to strictly support Micro USB.

In short, for compatibility reasons, the new connector, as I said earlier, will essentially be a reduced physical size version of the current iPod connection.

You do know that micro usb is just usb right? Its just shrunk and rearranged. And osx already supports android phones that use microusb.
 
I hope to answer all your questions right here!!!

This rumour might not be much of a rumour. It is very likely that apple will take on board a micro USB system. That's right, if any changes are made to its 30 dock connector it WILL be undoubtably a micro USB connection!
I had my doubts that apple would change their connection as it is part of what defines them however, this website proves that it is more of a definite than anything.

http://sockitz.com.au/new-charging-guidelines/

So after reading this article on this site (its not a long article) you will realize that it's not just apple who will be moving to a smaller charging plug. But hopefully everyone for more than 1 reason. Provide extra space inside the devices for key components, but mainly to reduce waste.

"After implementation, the plan is projected to bring down production of replacement chargers by as much as 51,000 tons annually. This will eliminate 13.6 million to 21.8 million tons of greenhouse gases emitted during manufacture." sockITz website explains

The slight downfall to this is if your not a user of a phone that already has a micro USB charger. Well, your up for another $20-30 for a new charger with your (possibly) next phone/device.

"Mobile Phones wont ship with chargers after this implementation as the Manufacturers assume you have one allready." says sockITz
 
I hope to answer all your questions right here!!!

This rumour might not be much of a rumour. It is very likely that apple will take on board a micro USB system. That's right, if any changes are made to its 30 dock connector it WILL be undoubtably a micro USB connection!
I had my doubts that apple would change their connection as it is part of what defines them however, this website proves that it is more of a definite than anything.

http://sockitz.com.au/new-charging-guidelines/

So after reading this article on this site (its not a long article) you will realize that it's not just apple who will be moving to a smaller charging plug. But hopefully everyone for more than 1 reason. Provide extra space inside the devices for key components, but mainly to reduce waste.

"After implementation, the plan is projected to bring down production of replacement chargers by as much as 51,000 tons annually. This will eliminate 13.6 million to 21.8 million tons of greenhouse gases emitted during manufacture." sockITz website explains

The slight downfall to this is if your not a user of a phone that already has a micro USB charger. Well, your up for another $20-30 for a new charger with your (possibly) next phone/device.

"Mobile Phones wont ship with chargers after this implementation as the Manufacturers assume you have one allready." says sockITz

Wow, I like a good zombie thread resurrection as much as anyone :rolleyes:, but you should at least try to have some facts right before you come "answer all your questions".

1 - The EU mandate does NOT SAY THAT PHONES NEED MICRO USB PORTS. I'm not sure how many times this needs to be said: Apple is already meeting the EU requirements. They don't need to add a port, they don't need to include a dongle/adapter. The standard iPhone 30-pin to USB-A cable and mains power to USB-A jack already meets the requirements, 100%

2 - Apple will NEVER go to just a USB plug, as it doesn't do nearly the things that the 30-pin connector does. USB support only uses 5 of the 30 pins. http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml
 
Yes, you did misunderstand. Apple is currently getting by with shipping a dock to micro USB adapter with iPhone in Europe. Changing what the dock looks like, as long as they continue to supply a sufficient adapter, will keep them within the confines of the law.

I bought an iPhone 4S last week here in Germany which is definitely in the EU. No sight of any dock to micro USB adapter, only the standard dock to USB cable and the headphones were included. Got it in the Apple Online Store but still.
 
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