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only 4 cases? that seems kinda extreme to me

It is.

This is how FUD spreads. 4 cases now = exploding iPods.

Over a hundred thousand units sold and there are 4 cases. Sounds like a bad batch to me, or very likely misuse/mishandling of the units, which are already way out of warranty. Who knows.

Of course, you will never hear about four SanDisk players or four Sony players exploding/melting/raping/murdering because they're not Apple.

Either way Apple has no choice but to cave in here. Even 4 cases merits some damage control in the grand scheme of things, now that the issue is public.

Thank the government of South Korea for spreading FUD, however.
 
Do people read? It says it's happening in South Korea; so no, you won't get your iPod replaced if you didn't get it there.
 
At least now we know what provoked the North Koreans.... all these iPods going off down South...
 
What does that matter? Designed in California.
The iPod was designed in California, not the battery. Who knows where the battery was engineered, whether the design is faulty or the manufacturing is faulty, or where the battery was made.

I'm not sure I get the made in China dig of the other poster, though, since no one is willing to pay for American-made batteries, and there's no guarantee some of those wouldn't explode, too.

The idea that Americans could do better at the same price is laughable.
 
It is.

This is how FUD spreads. 4 cases now = exploding iPods.

Over a hundred thousand units sold and there are 4 cases. Sounds like a bad batch to me, or very likely misuse/mishandling of the units, which are already way out of warranty. Who knows.

Of course, you will never hear about four SanDisk players or four Sony players exploding/melting/raping/murdering because they're not Apple.

Either way Apple has no choice but to cave in here. Even 4 cases merits some damage control in the grand scheme of things, now that the issue is public.

Thank the government of South Korea for spreading FUD, however.

All it takes is one poisoned bottle of Tylenol to cost millions of dollars in legal fees, settlements, and lost advertising revenue. Don't think Apple didn't project some numbers here! In the long run, it's cheaper to recall the entire batch / lot.

The product may be different, but if it fails in such a way so as it will hurt someone, I think the right thing to do is ... everything you should - whether the matter was made public or not. Recall the suspect product batch / lot and repair/replace it before someone (else) gets hurt. It seems to me you save more than just money doing the right thing. :cool:
 
All it takes is one poisoned bottle of Tylenol to cost millions of dollars in legal fees, settlements, and lost advertising revenue. Don't think Apple didn't project some numbers here! In the long run, it's cheaper to recall the entire batch / lot.

The product may be different, but if it fails in such a way so as it will hurt someone, I think the right thing to do is ... everything you should - whether the matter was made public or not. Recall the suspect product batch / lot and repair/replace it before someone (else) gets hurt. It seems to me you save more than just money doing the right thing. :cool:

A reasonable, level-headed view. Can't argue with that . . .
 
Very slim chance to have an Ipod Nano from '05 that has any resemblance of a battery life remaining

more like do the 5th gen ipod "classics" have any battery life left? the answer is no, i can't see a whole movie without the battery dieing.:mad:
 
I'm still using my 2GB 1st Gen Nano and get about 8-9 hours on it still. I guess that doesn't count right?
My STBXH isn't getting that much on his, but 99% of the time he's playing it plugged in anyway.

more like do the 5th gen ipod "classics" have any battery life left? the answer is no, i can't see a whole movie without the battery dieing.:mad:

My video can't make it thru a movie either, about an hour or so. I do have decent life left on music... sometimes.
 
i never understand
what is gov role to save it's people from incidental ipod overheating?
 
So are they saying that 4 of the 155,000 iPods had batteries that blew up? And this warrants a recall of the entire 155,000?

lol, yeah.. Well, Koreans made a huge fuss about them blowing up. It was all over the media and I think it pressured apple to get a recall going.

I'm a Korean myself but we often make things too exaggerated.... =_=
 
i never understand
what is gov role to save it's people from incidental ipod overheating?

To save their people from:

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Apple iPod suspected in bizarre Swedish car fire
Published: 9 Jul 09 16:08 CET

An iPod music player is at the centre of an investigation into a mysterious car fire which completely destroyed a Saab automobile in western Sweden over the Midsummer holiday weekend.

http://www.thelocal.se/20570/20090709/

link posted without comment a few back
 
I'm sure the number of people that still have their 1G iPod Nano are pretty low so I doubt too many will be returned in the recall. I say that there probably aren't that many but my wife still uses hers so you never know.
 
To save their people from:

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Apple iPod suspected in bizarre Swedish car fire
Published: 9 Jul 09 16:08 CET

An iPod music player is at the centre of an investigation into a mysterious car fire which completely destroyed a Saab automobile in western Sweden over the Midsummer holiday weekend.

http://www.thelocal.se/20570/20090709/

link posted without comment a few back


Takes me back to my ford pinto....:D
 
are the components of the South Korean models different than those sold in North America?

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Aren't they all made with the same components in the same factory in Malaysia or Taiwan or something? Why is it that they warrant a recall in another country because they explode but they somehow don't explode when they're shipped to Canada? I know it's only four units, but... it's kind of aggravating. Perhaps I should stop using my old 4 GB Nano.
 
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Aren't they all made with the same components in the same factory in Malaysia or Taiwan or something? Why is it that they warrant a recall in another country because they explode but they somehow don't explode when they're shipped to Canada? I know it's only four units, but... it's kind of aggravating. Perhaps I should stop using my old 4 GB Nano.

Its happened in other places to - it's just that the South Korean government demanded Apple make a recall.
 
To save their people from:
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...

http://www.thelocal.se/20570/20090709/
link posted without comment a few back
Is it just me or what? How do you get a cold engine on a hot sunny day? Where was this dog all this time? In the car (with apparently only a left passenger window open for like 4 inch aka 10 cm) on a hot sunny day?

Leaving your iPod (or whatever) in your car is one thing, but your dog? No, not a brilliant move if you ask me.
 
To save their people from:

20570.jpg


Apple iPod suspected in bizarre Swedish car fire
Published: 9 Jul 09 16:08 CET

An iPod music player is at the centre of an investigation into a mysterious car fire which completely destroyed a Saab automobile in western Sweden over the Midsummer holiday weekend.

http://www.thelocal.se/20570/20090709/

link posted without comment a few back

apparently their ipods come with c4 built in.
 
Takes me back to my ford pinto....:D

Another case where mass hysteria and perception was at odds with the facts.

The truth was that most American small and mid-sized cars of that era had the fuel tanks under the boot ("trunk" to Americans).

In any severe rear-end collision, the chances were high that the fuel tank could leak or rupture - making a bad situation worse.

I remember that one of the Pinto lawsuits was about an accident where the Pinto pulled onto the highway in the path of a truck going 100 ("66" to Americans). Big fire, everyone in the car died.

The outcome would have been the same with most other cars of the era - a truck hitting the rear at high speed would rupture the fuel tank.
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The Pinto's flaw, and what was fixed in the recall, was that there was a bolt in the suspension near the fuel tank. In a modest low speed collision, the tank could move on its mounts and hit the bolt, which could puncture the tank and could cause a minor problem to be a major problem.

The fix was to put a larger disk on the bolt - so if the tank hit the bolt it would merely dent the tank, but not puncture it.

But, in the public's eye, "Ford Pinto" means "exploding car" - regardless of the facts.

I just hope that I'm never on an airplane with an Ipod Nano on it somewhere....


Leaving your iPod (or whatever) in your car is one thing, but your dog? No, not a brilliant move if you ask me.

It's Sweden - that's the one weekend of the year without snow everywhere! ;) </joke> </kidding> </love you anuba, I'm blond and my mother's maiden name was Carlsen>
 
I like a company that will actually recall it's products. It takes a big man to admit that he's wrong. . .

I think you missed the part about Apple bowing to government pressure, after offering to only replace the bad units. :)

Apple recently lost a class action in Canada over batteries as well.

Batteries seem to be a recurring theme with Apple, which makes sense considering how many portable devices they make.
 
Originally Posted by andrew0122
I like a company that will actually recall it's products. It takes a big man to admit that he's wrong. . .

I think you missed the part about Apple bowing to government pressure, after offering to only replace the bad units. :)

I smiled at that post too -- apparently Apple fans don't notice that it usually takes class action lawsuits and government threats to get Apple to admit that something that they've sold is defective.
 
I smiled at that post too -- apparently Apple fans don't notice that it usually takes class action lawsuits and government threats to get Apple to admit that something that they've sold is defective.

Depends how widespread the issue is.

A few units does not make the product-at-large defective. It makes just those units defective. It's a warranty/repair issue rather than a class-action/lawsuit issue. If a unit caused physical injury, that's a more serious matter, but it still does not suggest that the product-at-large is defective.

The South Korean government intervening over four cases is ludicrous. But the cat's out of the bag and it is now incumbent upon Apple to issue a recall lest they take a big PR hit.
 
Hi all,

I am from NJ, but have lived in Seoul for years. When analyzing this story it's worth considering the obstacles the iPhone has had entering the Korean market, namely the 'wipi' standard enforced by a Korean government effectively controlled trade-wise by Samsung and LG, Apple's competitors in the mp3 market and potentially in phones. Samsung accounts for roughly 20% of Korea's GDP, hence the country is often referred to as 'The Republic of Samsung'.

As the iPhone has been unable for various reasons to enter this market the two aforementioned behemoths have copied and pasted Apple's interface onto phones which are frankly technologically advanced but not as easy to use as the iPhone.

The best explanation I have read for the iPhone not entering Korea can be seen here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2009/07/129_47277.html

Apple Korea today DENIED ANY RECALL, contrary to the reports of a frequently inept government here, and has scheduled a meeting with said government to discuss the issue. This all looks to me like a smear campaign set up by Samsung (the mp3 market leader here) to stave off Apple (in 2nd place) by appealing to some uniquely Korean nationalist sentiment as well as 'safety'. Four units??? Really?!?

Korea is a closed country when it comes to tech, no matter what they would have the world believe. Apple is a serious threat to local giants and will take it on the chin when trying to do business here. Hell, 98.99% of Koreans use ie7, still dependent on activeX and don't even know what Firefox is, let alone OS X!
 
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