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Screw the iPhone
Screw the iPhone, i want a Newton.
In any case, would it be profitable for Apple to make the iPhone? No one really expects to pay much for a cell phone when they buy one, they are concerned with the price of the server. Apple wont get any money from the service because the cell phone companies are all selling it as cheap as possible as it is. Unless the iPhone was a full PDA as well, there would be no use in making it. In that case, I want a Newton.
I might buy an old one off of ebay
Screw the iPhone, i want a Newton.
In any case, would it be profitable for Apple to make the iPhone? No one really expects to pay much for a cell phone when they buy one, they are concerned with the price of the server. Apple wont get any money from the service because the cell phone companies are all selling it as cheap as possible as it is. Unless the iPhone was a full PDA as well, there would be no use in making it. In that case, I want a Newton.
I might buy an old one off of ebay
orange has just released a cell phone with microsofts smartphone os
check out http://www.orange.co.uk/orangespv/
i have seen it, held it, played with it, it's awesome and the only sad thing is: ms... well, and some pleople say, it's ugly... i think the design is okay.
well, to beat this phone, apple should create something a little bit smaller, more elegant and an os that is apple like.
as much as i know, sales of cell phones were still growing this year. especially december seams to be wicked in switzerland, probaly most other countries, too... why not an apple phone?
anyway, my target is a sony ericsson t68i and i will buy in early jan03. gives me some time to check apple stuff...
.a
check out http://www.orange.co.uk/orangespv/
i have seen it, held it, played with it, it's awesome and the only sad thing is: ms... well, and some pleople say, it's ugly... i think the design is okay.
well, to beat this phone, apple should create something a little bit smaller, more elegant and an os that is apple like.
as much as i know, sales of cell phones were still growing this year. especially december seams to be wicked in switzerland, probaly most other countries, too... why not an apple phone?
anyway, my target is a sony ericsson t68i and i will buy in early jan03. gives me some time to check apple stuff...
.a
I've got a T68i, and while the hardware side of it is almost perfect, the software is completely shoddy. It's incredubly sluggish, slows to a crawl when typing a "long" sms (like, after 20 words!), freezes for a few seconds when you try to do something quickly... Plus the phonebook is the worst I've seen in a LONG time. On the other hand, it's GPRS and Bluetooth connectivity is great.
Ive been thinking about a Panasonic GD55... smaller than the T68i, no Bluetooth, but on the other hand I've foind myself really NOT using Bluetooth much since I carry around a Sidekick, which serves all my web, e-mail, and Chat purposes... =) *justin
Ive been thinking about a Panasonic GD55... smaller than the T68i, no Bluetooth, but on the other hand I've foind myself really NOT using Bluetooth much since I carry around a Sidekick, which serves all my web, e-mail, and Chat purposes... =) *justin
on the T68i
JtheLemur, how do you realize that the poor performance of the T68i is software driven ? I though it was hardware as well. I really don't know, however, the point remains that the phone is slow, too slow. The only reason I, for now, can leave with that is the beauty of its integration with the Mac, which is the reason why I bot a cell phone after 10 years doing without one !
And here is my questions: if you did switch to a non bluetooth phone how are you going to communicate with the Mac, to sync adrs book and calendars, primarily, but also to connect to the net when traveling with your iBook/Tbook ?
gio
JtheLemur, how do you realize that the poor performance of the T68i is software driven ? I though it was hardware as well. I really don't know, however, the point remains that the phone is slow, too slow. The only reason I, for now, can leave with that is the beauty of its integration with the Mac, which is the reason why I bot a cell phone after 10 years doing without one !
And here is my questions: if you did switch to a non bluetooth phone how are you going to communicate with the Mac, to sync adrs book and calendars, primarily, but also to connect to the net when traveling with your iBook/Tbook ?
gio
right now, i own a siemens sl 45 and this one is really slow. have you ever compered slowlyness with these two cell phones, sl45 and t86i?
i just want my next cell phone to sync with my mac. the t68i looked okay for me, though i never tried it out...
looks like apple has to release the iphone to get all of us satified!
.a
i just want my next cell phone to sync with my mac. the t68i looked okay for me, though i never tried it out...
looks like apple has to release the iphone to get all of us satified!
.a
Maybe a wild shot but...
How many people would think this was useful?:
A .Mac integrated voicemail and fax inbox solution? Here's how it works.
1 - Voice) When you sign up for .Mac you register your home phone number. If someone calls you from a phone line, it works just like normal. If someone with .Mac or an associated companies product wants to call you they can use voice over IP. If you're not at home the Mac takes a message which is stored locally. When you're on the road you can call in for messages just like a phone machine, or go to .Mac which will pull the messages off your computer for you.
2 - FAX) When you sign up for .Mac you are provided with a free FAX number. This is an IP FAX number, so you must be connected to the net to recieve faxes which print out on your printer. The fax itself is stored on your .Mac address for a certain amount of time which you can set in your options. When you are away from home, all you need to do is connect to .Mac to get your faxes.
I think this is much more likely than another device. It is all software based. It can use open VoIP standards and open FAX over IP standards. It provides ease of use, further incentive for .Mac adoption, and with the FAX inbox, it offers something that business customers would love, a market that Apple wouldn't mind chipping the surface of.
How many people would think this was useful?:
A .Mac integrated voicemail and fax inbox solution? Here's how it works.
1 - Voice) When you sign up for .Mac you register your home phone number. If someone calls you from a phone line, it works just like normal. If someone with .Mac or an associated companies product wants to call you they can use voice over IP. If you're not at home the Mac takes a message which is stored locally. When you're on the road you can call in for messages just like a phone machine, or go to .Mac which will pull the messages off your computer for you.
2 - FAX) When you sign up for .Mac you are provided with a free FAX number. This is an IP FAX number, so you must be connected to the net to recieve faxes which print out on your printer. The fax itself is stored on your .Mac address for a certain amount of time which you can set in your options. When you are away from home, all you need to do is connect to .Mac to get your faxes.
I think this is much more likely than another device. It is all software based. It can use open VoIP standards and open FAX over IP standards. It provides ease of use, further incentive for .Mac adoption, and with the FAX inbox, it offers something that business customers would love, a market that Apple wouldn't mind chipping the surface of.
no hardware...it's software
Unless Apple could bring something significant to the cellphone market that major players such as Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens, Motorola, SAGEM (Europe), NTT etc could not - and I seriously doubt that is the case - my bet is that iPhone is most likely an IP softphone and/or videoconferencing application tied into iChat.
I can certainly see a next-generation AirPort supporting a wireless digital handset, or even 'shirt-pocket-pack + Bluetooth headset' combo for telephony in the office (your wireless extension that follows you around), or via a softphone at your Mac - this of course presuming your company already has Voice-over-IP hardware like Cisco AVVID gateways. But I wouldn't count on a traditional cellphone.
Dot-Mac services might be extended to support iPhone for home users in some areas - like what Dialpad Communications does now - essentially acting as a long-distance carrier, maybe through the Akamai network or Earthlink?
Apple would then become a competitive long-distance carrier....
Unless Apple could bring something significant to the cellphone market that major players such as Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens, Motorola, SAGEM (Europe), NTT etc could not - and I seriously doubt that is the case - my bet is that iPhone is most likely an IP softphone and/or videoconferencing application tied into iChat.
I can certainly see a next-generation AirPort supporting a wireless digital handset, or even 'shirt-pocket-pack + Bluetooth headset' combo for telephony in the office (your wireless extension that follows you around), or via a softphone at your Mac - this of course presuming your company already has Voice-over-IP hardware like Cisco AVVID gateways. But I wouldn't count on a traditional cellphone.
Dot-Mac services might be extended to support iPhone for home users in some areas - like what Dialpad Communications does now - essentially acting as a long-distance carrier, maybe through the Akamai network or Earthlink?
Apple would then become a competitive long-distance carrier....
Such solutions already exist, but by integrating 3rd-party hardware and software. Fax service bureaus exist, and many large organizations use fax servers in-house to handle inbound and outbound faxing.
A network fax server is a bit like a print queue, rasterizing pages and then transmitting them. Usually this involves special, expensive telephony boards, although new solutions like XMediusFAX are 'boardless', using existing Cisco Voice-over-IP hardware. The other option is fax-email integration, where inbound faxes are delivered to users as messages with attachments, either in multipage TIFF or PDF format.
If Apple wanted to do something like what you suggest, they would have to go beyond basic .Mac email and web hosting and become a small telephone company.
To handle inbound calls and/or faxing for .Mac users, each user would get an extension like 1-(555)-555-5555 extension 5555. Apple would then have to get a boatload of Direct Inward Dial (DID) lines installed - each one of these can be mapped to 30 different extensions, so to support, say, 150,000 users, they'd need 5,000 lines. And to support outbound faxing, they'd need a boatload of T1 lines (which can each carry 24 voice channels), so another 6,250 of those, or about 225 T3 lines...
...or the equivalent amount of lines in Voice-over-IP connectivity, which would mean building a national IP voice network or piggybacking on a larger carrier like Qwest or Sprint....
Not that it's impossible, i'm just saying that it would involve a *lot* of infrastructure and cost.
So I'm guessing a basic IP softphone/videophone might be the real plan.
Re: apple is squashing some dood
Neither does my T28 or T29.
To access the hidden service menu press:
>*<<*<*
Hopefully they haven't changed the sequence on the T68
Neither does my T28 or T29.
To access the hidden service menu press:
>*<<*<*
Hopefully they haven't changed the sequence on the T68
Apple Iphone
I have been saying for a while now that Apple will in the near future introduce a PDA type cell phone.
In my opinion that is what the iCal is all about.
I mean really, while a calendar organizer program may be good for companies, its really not very beneficial to typical computer users.
For years I have used the DAYTIMER organizer, but a couple of years ago I bought the computer software and ended up getting rid of it and going back to the trusty wallet.
Recently I bought a PDA to replace the DAYTIMER and am glad I did, but to just have a calendar on your desktop is almost useless unless you can take it with you.
I smell an APPLE PDA/Cellphone on the way!!!
I have been saying for a while now that Apple will in the near future introduce a PDA type cell phone.
In my opinion that is what the iCal is all about.
I mean really, while a calendar organizer program may be good for companies, its really not very beneficial to typical computer users.
For years I have used the DAYTIMER organizer, but a couple of years ago I bought the computer software and ended up getting rid of it and going back to the trusty wallet.
Recently I bought a PDA to replace the DAYTIMER and am glad I did, but to just have a calendar on your desktop is almost useless unless you can take it with you.
I smell an APPLE PDA/Cellphone on the way!!!
I agree with byrdhouse
the IP phone software that keeps getting described on here is worthless. Apple, like every other corporation in this world, is trying to make a profit. The IP Phone software would only be used in very specific locations, otherwise it would just be inconvenient.
Also, Apple needs to build up market share. Releasing another popular consumer item would strengthen that market share. Apple is also trying to go for the complete tech device image. iPhoto for digital cameras, iMovie for camcorders, SuperDrive to burn them, iPod for your music, iCal to take care of your organization stuff with iPhone/Newton to sync with it.
Now that i think about it, isnt iPod getting a color screen? Touch senstive? It seems to already have a large harddrive... where might that be going? My roomates's PDA, a Sony Clie, plays MP3s now that i think about it.
the IP phone software that keeps getting described on here is worthless. Apple, like every other corporation in this world, is trying to make a profit. The IP Phone software would only be used in very specific locations, otherwise it would just be inconvenient.
Also, Apple needs to build up market share. Releasing another popular consumer item would strengthen that market share. Apple is also trying to go for the complete tech device image. iPhoto for digital cameras, iMovie for camcorders, SuperDrive to burn them, iPod for your music, iCal to take care of your organization stuff with iPhone/Newton to sync with it.
Now that i think about it, isnt iPod getting a color screen? Touch senstive? It seems to already have a large harddrive... where might that be going? My roomates's PDA, a Sony Clie, plays MP3s now that i think about it.
Cell phone market too fractured...
for Apple to seriously enter that market. The potential market for buyers of a phone-specific device from Apple is miniscule...
Only Apple devotees would even consider buying such a device (with a minimal number of Windows users giving it a nod). But even then, Apple would have to produce multiple devices to used on the various differing mobile platforms; else, their potential market would be even smaller...
Finally, Apple would have to negotiate license deals with the various cell companies...something that is probably a lot tougher than one might think given the competitive nature and dire business outlooks for the various mobile companies.
In the end, a pure Apple produced cell phone would be a nightmare for them.
Rather, I believe, Apple will release a PDA device that will incorporate bluetooth, and then, using iSync, they will connect to your cell phone with full integration between the two devices. Additionally, I believe they will encourage another phone-manufacturer to produce a very small headset, utilizing bluetooth, that will act as the "phone" and yet be fully controlled by the Apple PDA.
This seems a much cleaner solution to me, allowing Apple to focus on their strength, produce a device that will be universally applicable to all of their customers, maintain and develop strong relationships with the mobile phone companies, and provide an elegant solution...
for Apple to seriously enter that market. The potential market for buyers of a phone-specific device from Apple is miniscule...
Only Apple devotees would even consider buying such a device (with a minimal number of Windows users giving it a nod). But even then, Apple would have to produce multiple devices to used on the various differing mobile platforms; else, their potential market would be even smaller...
Finally, Apple would have to negotiate license deals with the various cell companies...something that is probably a lot tougher than one might think given the competitive nature and dire business outlooks for the various mobile companies.
In the end, a pure Apple produced cell phone would be a nightmare for them.
Rather, I believe, Apple will release a PDA device that will incorporate bluetooth, and then, using iSync, they will connect to your cell phone with full integration between the two devices. Additionally, I believe they will encourage another phone-manufacturer to produce a very small headset, utilizing bluetooth, that will act as the "phone" and yet be fully controlled by the Apple PDA.
This seems a much cleaner solution to me, allowing Apple to focus on their strength, produce a device that will be universally applicable to all of their customers, maintain and develop strong relationships with the mobile phone companies, and provide an elegant solution...
missing the boat
A lot people seem to be missing the boat.
Apple's marketing strategy is focussed on the Digital Hub. Remember this. They make products and software to allow the average user to get more out of their computer.
Also remember Apple has not focussed on Hardware as much as software for the last few years. With the exception on iPod, apple doesn't have much else to offer outside their computer production. Besides in a struggling hardware market, apple is REALLY trying to focus on getting more average PC user to switch to MAC. Now is a PDA / Cell phone going to do this??? perhaps, but not right now..
More feasibly a software package that will be ground breaking would be approaching around the corner. Apple's OS X is lacking a Videoconferencing package that is easy to use. Sure there is Ispq and netfone... But something that the average user will be able to use. Something to put Apple at the forefront of the digital hub lifestlye.
Believe me the demand is out there. Iphone more than likely will be a software videoconferencing package like none other. Apple pushed hard to get Mpeg4 set as a standard in their Quicktime product. They are obviosuly working on a broadcasting solution as evident in the free Quicktime Broadcasting solution.
Imagine being able to conference with friends and family through high quality mpeg4 compression? The application will obviously be similar to a computerized telephone and answering system.
I remember reading a few months back regarding a project apple had through there .mac service to create a mimicing static ip?? can anyone verify if this is actually true?
It would make more sense for apple to lease out the iphone software to erikson and allow erikson to design hardware than it would be to take a giant risk investing millions into a phone/pda market that they really have no business being in. Apple is a computer company. iPod is a completely computer related device... A cell phone? well...
A lot people seem to be missing the boat.
Apple's marketing strategy is focussed on the Digital Hub. Remember this. They make products and software to allow the average user to get more out of their computer.
Also remember Apple has not focussed on Hardware as much as software for the last few years. With the exception on iPod, apple doesn't have much else to offer outside their computer production. Besides in a struggling hardware market, apple is REALLY trying to focus on getting more average PC user to switch to MAC. Now is a PDA / Cell phone going to do this??? perhaps, but not right now..
More feasibly a software package that will be ground breaking would be approaching around the corner. Apple's OS X is lacking a Videoconferencing package that is easy to use. Sure there is Ispq and netfone... But something that the average user will be able to use. Something to put Apple at the forefront of the digital hub lifestlye.
Believe me the demand is out there. Iphone more than likely will be a software videoconferencing package like none other. Apple pushed hard to get Mpeg4 set as a standard in their Quicktime product. They are obviosuly working on a broadcasting solution as evident in the free Quicktime Broadcasting solution.
Imagine being able to conference with friends and family through high quality mpeg4 compression? The application will obviously be similar to a computerized telephone and answering system.
I remember reading a few months back regarding a project apple had through there .mac service to create a mimicing static ip?? can anyone verify if this is actually true?
It would make more sense for apple to lease out the iphone software to erikson and allow erikson to design hardware than it would be to take a giant risk investing millions into a phone/pda market that they really have no business being in. Apple is a computer company. iPod is a completely computer related device... A cell phone? well...
I bought a T68i with Cingular service. The following day, I returned it. While the phone was great, more bells and whistles than I could eat, the coverage was too spotty. I could not get a signal at my home or place of work.
I'll give them a year to get more towers, then I'll try again. Until then, my Motorola phone using Verizon will do the job.
I'll give them a year to get more towers, then I'll try again. Until then, my Motorola phone using Verizon will do the job.
digital hub
iPhone....
Apple gives us all those nice free iApps...
The iPod wouldn't function without iTunes.
iCal, iSync, iPhoto, iChat, AddressBook & Inkwell are all perfect for a pda/phone device.
.Mac is a perfect base for related services.
Apple is not making money on those free iApps, so these iApps are an investment for Apple, for something bigger.
GPRS /UMTS (in the near future) gives you non stop connectivity to the net and therefore also to to your .Mac account. So when you need info you can download it from there when you need it, so without having to prepare your pda/phone beforehand.
With this system you also don't need a huge memory in this pda/phone, so the device can be kept small or other hardware, like a build in camera can be added.
They have close links with Sony-Ericcson....
And now they own the iPhone name...
I cannot wait to buy one!
iPhone....
Apple gives us all those nice free iApps...
The iPod wouldn't function without iTunes.
iCal, iSync, iPhoto, iChat, AddressBook & Inkwell are all perfect for a pda/phone device.
.Mac is a perfect base for related services.
Apple is not making money on those free iApps, so these iApps are an investment for Apple, for something bigger.
GPRS /UMTS (in the near future) gives you non stop connectivity to the net and therefore also to to your .Mac account. So when you need info you can download it from there when you need it, so without having to prepare your pda/phone beforehand.
With this system you also don't need a huge memory in this pda/phone, so the device can be kept small or other hardware, like a build in camera can be added.
They have close links with Sony-Ericcson....
And now they own the iPhone name...
I cannot wait to buy one!
iPhone
I don't think iPhone is cellular. I's probably VIOP based. And will include hardware and software. The hardware is an analog telephone router, like a Cisco 186 ATA. With this, and Apple software, it will be possible to call anyone anywhere in the world who has iPhone for free with a regular telephone, or from a Mac. The software will probably include answering machine capability. Apple will also partner with an existing VIOP company so that the same phone can call any standard phone for 2 or 3 cents a minute. International calls will vary in price, 5 to 25 cents a minute.
I don't think iPhone is cellular. I's probably VIOP based. And will include hardware and software. The hardware is an analog telephone router, like a Cisco 186 ATA. With this, and Apple software, it will be possible to call anyone anywhere in the world who has iPhone for free with a regular telephone, or from a Mac. The software will probably include answering machine capability. Apple will also partner with an existing VIOP company so that the same phone can call any standard phone for 2 or 3 cents a minute. International calls will vary in price, 5 to 25 cents a minute.
Re: missing the boat
I talked about Apple being the digital hub. But Apple doesnt make money with free programs like itunes, Apple makes money with selling the computers that run itunes and the iPods that play the music.
And i must note that Apple has been making huge sales in Asia with the iPod. Some ppl even bought macs so they could use them.
Apple cannot and will not make money making new software, especially not communications software.
I talked about Apple being the digital hub. But Apple doesnt make money with free programs like itunes, Apple makes money with selling the computers that run itunes and the iPods that play the music.
And i must note that Apple has been making huge sales in Asia with the iPod. Some ppl even bought macs so they could use them.
Apple cannot and will not make money making new software, especially not communications software.
Okay, true that it could be the HARDware making it slow... guess someone'll have to pick up a T300 and compare the two phones, since it's essentially the same software. But the lag when typing a long SMS is a serious issue nontheless for those who rely on SMS! It's sooo aggravating! But it's Mac integration is FLAWLESS.
Well that's the thing actually - right now I'm really only using Bluetooth to connect while on the road for web, e-mail, and chatting with friends and co-workers... but I also have a T-Mobile Sidekick (Danger Hiptop), on which I can do ALL that without even having a laptop, so even though I "NEEDED" BT before, now I really DON'T... (plus, all the data on the SK is viewable using any web browser anywhere in the US!) So trading in the T68i for an even smaller phone woud be a convenience for those times that I ONLY want to carry the cell and NOT my iBook or Sidekick...
For those waiting for an Apple PDA/phone, the closest you'll get now is the Sidekick! On Danger's team is Rubin formerly of Apple and General Magic, and assorted other people from Apple and other places. It's the best device I've ever had, and that's a LOT of devices. It's very Apple-esque as far as usability and interface, and is just a FUN device to use. =D
Re: Re: missing the boat
Again... Apple WANTS people using their computer.. In order for this to happen you NEED the applications. I have friends that I managed to convince switch over fo rthe sole purpose of making there own home movies with iMovie and iDVD. This is what the digital hub is about.
Apple's apparent "SWITCH" campaign will mean squat if they don't have the applications.
Application regardless of whether they are free or not make the computer.. which leads to computer sales.
My speculation is that iPhone software will be dependant on .Mac Services... If this is the case.. consider how many more .Mac accounts they will be able to sell. Perhaps there is a Pro version of iphone that is to be launched at the same time? Perhaps apple will charge for iPhone software to begin... iMovie is not a free application unless you buy a new mac or upgrade your OS.
It all works out to be profit in the end. How did microsoft get rich? selling software
I am not ruling out a possible PDA and cellular phone in the end, I do not think Apple will be producing it, They will be supplying the software and functionality on their computer for it, and possibly server software for them.
Again... Apple WANTS people using their computer.. In order for this to happen you NEED the applications. I have friends that I managed to convince switch over fo rthe sole purpose of making there own home movies with iMovie and iDVD. This is what the digital hub is about.
Apple's apparent "SWITCH" campaign will mean squat if they don't have the applications.
Application regardless of whether they are free or not make the computer.. which leads to computer sales.
My speculation is that iPhone software will be dependant on .Mac Services... If this is the case.. consider how many more .Mac accounts they will be able to sell. Perhaps there is a Pro version of iphone that is to be launched at the same time? Perhaps apple will charge for iPhone software to begin... iMovie is not a free application unless you buy a new mac or upgrade your OS.
It all works out to be profit in the end. How did microsoft get rich? selling software
I am not ruling out a possible PDA and cellular phone in the end, I do not think Apple will be producing it, They will be supplying the software and functionality on their computer for it, and possibly server software for them.
VoIP?
Been using it for about 5 months now and it rocks...
http://www.vonage.com/
$39.00 per month gives you:
- A *real* phone number
- Dial anywhere in the US (local/in state and out of state)
- Voice mail with email notification
- Caller ID
- Call Forwarding
- Call Waiting
- 3 Way Calling
- No computer needed (just DSL or CableModem)
Works with any (good quality) phone... Only thing that does cost is international calls. (but they have pretty good rates)
If anyone is interested in signing up let me know and I'll do a referal for you and you'll save $40.
Dave
Been using it for about 5 months now and it rocks...
http://www.vonage.com/
$39.00 per month gives you:
- A *real* phone number
- Dial anywhere in the US (local/in state and out of state)
- Voice mail with email notification
- Caller ID
- Call Forwarding
- Call Waiting
- 3 Way Calling
- No computer needed (just DSL or CableModem)
Works with any (good quality) phone... Only thing that does cost is international calls. (but they have pretty good rates)
If anyone is interested in signing up let me know and I'll do a referal for you and you'll save $40.
Dave
Re: Re: Re: missing the boat
Apple isnt selling iPhone, so the Microsoft analogy is worthless.
The number of people that would want the proposed software version of iPhone would be too small to help appeal to the PC world.
All in all, if Apple wants to add more software they should work on creating a C++ compiler that would be very close to the ones used for PC software as to make it inexpensive to make software.
Apple isnt selling iPhone, so the Microsoft analogy is worthless.
The number of people that would want the proposed software version of iPhone would be too small to help appeal to the PC world.
All in all, if Apple wants to add more software they should work on creating a C++ compiler that would be very close to the ones used for PC software as to make it inexpensive to make software.
I believe there is a large market for cell phones that can go on the internet and can perform pda-like functions. The T-Mobile Sidekick (HipTop) is an excellent example of this. I recently purchased the sidekick but had to return it do to poor servie. T-Mobile GSM network is pathetically slow with constant disconnects (at least in Northern Virginia).
Anyway, I used the sidekick enough to know what I liked about the device and what I didn't.
Pros:
Keyboard (you NEED a keyboard for web browsinf and aim)
Web Browser that can surf most html pages.
AIM (puts sms messaging to shame)
Simple and easy to use os that syncs all the programs on the device.
Good design
!!!!!!!UNLIMITED DATA + 1300 minutes FOR $39.95!!!!!!!
Cons:
Low resolution monocrhome screen.
Poor Service on the GSM network.
Unlimited data on a phone with a keyboard and programs like a web browser and aim is lots of fun and targets the teenage cell phone buying group. Unfortunately, the low resolution monochome makes web browsing painfully complicated and almost useless.
If Apple can make a cell phone like the sidekick with the cons I mentioned removed, they can make as much money or more as they did on the ipod. Lets face it, almost everyone is looking for a good cell phone with a good plan today. In addition, a lot of people are looking for innovative features to broaden their wireless horizon. So, I will be saving the money which was meant for my sidekick for the iPhone.
Anyway, I used the sidekick enough to know what I liked about the device and what I didn't.
Pros:
Keyboard (you NEED a keyboard for web browsinf and aim)
Web Browser that can surf most html pages.
AIM (puts sms messaging to shame)
Simple and easy to use os that syncs all the programs on the device.
Good design
!!!!!!!UNLIMITED DATA + 1300 minutes FOR $39.95!!!!!!!
Cons:
Low resolution monocrhome screen.
Poor Service on the GSM network.
Unlimited data on a phone with a keyboard and programs like a web browser and aim is lots of fun and targets the teenage cell phone buying group. Unfortunately, the low resolution monochome makes web browsing painfully complicated and almost useless.
If Apple can make a cell phone like the sidekick with the cons I mentioned removed, they can make as much money or more as they did on the ipod. Lets face it, almost everyone is looking for a good cell phone with a good plan today. In addition, a lot of people are looking for innovative features to broaden their wireless horizon. So, I will be saving the money which was meant for my sidekick for the iPhone.