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What are the current rumours about the 6.1” and 6.7” physical sizing and screen resolutions? I have gone through the rumour mill and math yet.

I am looking to upgrade from my 5.5” 7 Plus. I would also be interested to know if they supported Zoomed Display Mode. I suspect yes, but I’m not sure.


What’s lacking in the current Apple TV 4K? I don’t ave a 4K tv yet so I can’t really tell. Does it have trouble at that resolution?
For 4K HDR playback, no trouble at all. The only thing I’ve noticed on the Apple TV 4K is sometimes when scrolling in the menu, there can be an occasional slowdown or stutter, but I wonder if it is due to memory, since it doesn’t seem to happen after a fresh reboot.
 
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That was my first though as well. Four phone models with nine numbers probably means they all won't have the same color choices. The current Pro has four finishes; that would leave five model numbers (unless Apple reduces the Pro choices) distributed over three phones. I'm wondering where (product)Red will fit in.
You are a ver smart person!
 
CONGRATULATIONS! Your smaller iPhone Pro is just getting bigger. I hate this. Why don’t they keep the same size as the current 5.8” 11 Pro!??

i agree, i'd prefer not to go any bigger than the current pro size. i'm hoping that what sits in your hand will be a bit smaller than the current non pro model, due to the actual design of the phone(possible (yet)smaller bezels)...
 
What’s lacking in the current Apple TV 4K? I don’t ave a 4K tv yet so I can’t really tell. Does it have trouble at that resolution?
The performance of a new chip will help with responsiveness, but also with using all the non-video apps, especially games. There are also the advantages of the latest HDMI 2.1 specification if Apple adopt that, such as high frame rates, variable refresh rates, eARC (HDMI 2.0b, but I think Apple TV does not have that either), and low lag features that will be good for gaming.
 
Do 5G bands vary enough throughout the world to require so many different models? Reminds me of the days when Apple needed three different models with different radio capability for just the US market. Eventually they got down to 2 or 1.
 
Toss up between the 5.4 inch low-end model and the 6.1 inch high end model for me. I miss a smaller form factor, but I’d be trading off features for it.
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Why iOS 13?
For testing. I imagine it’s easier to test a new phone on a stable firmware than one that’s in beta, it’s probably still in alpha at this point.
 
if they build iOS 14 on the base of „what they have“, then they might as well wait until they get iOS 13 right or release a 13.6 (supporting the new phones in the Fall) with iOS14 being previewed soon but coming at a later date. I doubt they rebuild every major release from scratch and not use the previous version at its core
People like you will say every OS is broken until the Universe ends.
 
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A2176,
A2172,

A2341,
A2342,

A2399,

A2403,
A2407,
A2408,
A2411.

Since we are moving back to Qualcomm Modem, which means there should only be 2 Model per iPhone. A21 and A23 are the iPhone 12 5.4 and 6.1"

I am guessing there is an extra model for iPhone 12 Pro in China where it uses Dual Physical Sim rather than eSim.
 
The two "Pro" models will very-likely each include 6 GB of LPDDR5 !

It's a BIG deal, & should be getting ALOT more attention on this website !

The net result will be ~5.6 GB of "Useable" LPDDR5 for apps !
 
CONGRATULATIONS! Your smaller iPhone Pro is just getting bigger. I hate this. Why don’t they keep the same size as the current 5.8” 11 Pro!??
Three cameras + LiDAR, probably 5.8" is not big enough to fit all this.
 
A2176,
A2172,

A2341,
A2342,

A2399,

A2403,
A2407,
A2408,
A2411.

Since we are moving back to Qualcomm Modem, which means there should only be 2 Model per iPhone. A21 and A23 are the iPhone 12 5.4 and 6.1"

I am guessing there is an extra model for iPhone 12 Pro in China where it uses Dual Physical Sim rather than eSim.
iPhone 12
A2176
A2407
iPhone 12 Max
A2172
A2411
iPhone 12 Pro
A2341
A2399
iPhone 12 Pro Max
A2342
A2403

A2408 may not appear in formal products, my guess last year was almost correct
 
People like you will say every OS is broken until the Universe ends.

Judging by Messages showing 2+ GB of usage while there aren’t actually any attachments (according to the settings app) yet there are when checking the thread in the messages app itself since iCloud Messages was introduced on all 4 of my iDevices and don’t even get me started on the Mail app ... I think you are right unfortunately
 
Are we asking for too much when we said we wanted a top spec phone in a smaller package?
We are already willing to compromise to use the gigantic iPhone X, why does it have to be even bigger this time around?
Not all of us have a large hand.
 
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But iPhone SE released this year is still LCD.

Well, duh...

It's a budget phone, not a thousand-dollar flagship. They're not going to put OLED in it, as even the regular iPhone 11 doesn't have OLED. And they're definitely not going to test Mini-LED on a budget phone. Don't complain about things that make absolutely zero sense.
 
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Glad to see the iMac appearing to be coming...too bad the Intel processor update for the year - last month or so (that would go into this model) was still 14nm (the iPhone 11 has a 7nm die size) and are essentially just refreshed versions of the chips we've been buying from them for a good number of years now. That said a refreshed iMac would be good (afraid 3TB drive size prices will be horrendously expensive with the new one if it goes to SSD only storage).

Regarding the model numbers for iPhones, back when 4G was new Apple had to have alot of models since Qualcomm (etc.) didn't have single modem chip solutions that covered everything - so we had a ton of iPhone model numbers. Could this be whats happening here with 5G? (again)
 
Are we asking for too much when we said we wanted a top spec phone in a smaller package?
We are already willing to compromise to use the gigantic iPhone X, why does it have to be even bigger this time around?
Not all of us have a large hand.

They’re probably hoping that people buy a Watch to offload some iPhone tasks Lol.
 
What are the current rumours about the 6.1” and 6.7” physical sizing and screen resolutions? I have gone through the rumour mill and math yet.

I am looking to upgrade from my 5.5” 7 Plus. I would also be interested to know if they supported Zoomed Display Mode. I suspect yes, but I’m not sure.



For 4K HDR playback, no trouble at all. The only thing I’ve noticed on the Apple TV 4K is sometimes when scrolling in the menu, there can be an occasional slowdown or stutter, but I wonder if it is due to memory, since it doesn’t seem to happen after a fresh reboot.
The last we heard, but it’s pretty sketchy.
5.4-inch iPhone 12

Young says that the iPhone 12 will feature a flexible OLED display from Samsung Display, with Y-OCTA integrated touch. Y-OCTA is Samsung flexible display technology where the touch sensor is placed directly on the OLED panel without the need for a separate touch layer.

The 5.4-inch iPhone will feature a 2340 x 1080 resolution and 475 PPI.

6.1-inch iPhone 12 Max

The 6.1-inch "iPhone 12 Max" as Young calls it is expected to feature a flexible OLED sourced from BOE and LG Display with an add-on touch sensor and a resolution of 2532 x 1170 and 460 PPI.

6.1-inch iPhone 12 Pro

The higher-end Pro version of the 6.1-inch iPhone coming in 2020 will feature a Samsung Display flexible OLED, and Young says it will be one of the first smartphones with 10-bits of color, for more vibrant, true-to-life colors and a richer variety of color gradations.

The 6.1-inch iPhone 12 Pro is not expected to have Y-OCTA technology and it will feature the same resolution as the 6.1-inch iPhone 12 at 2532 x 1170 and 460 PPI.

Young says that Apple may be bringing extreme dynamic range (XDR) to its iPhone lineup, which is specified as 1,000 nits of full screen brightness and 1,600 nits of peak brightness. Samsung displays can't hit this level, though, and thus if Apple does use XDR, XDR specifications will need to be tweaked.
Apple is rumored to be linking XDR (extreme dynamic range) compatibility to the iPhone 12 series. XDR performance on its monitors is specified by Apple as 1000 nits of full screen brightness, 1600 nits of peak brightness, 1M:1 contrast, 10-bits of color and ~100% P3 wide color gamut. To date, Samsung Display has only achieved 1342 nits of peak brightness and full screen brightness of 828 nits on smartphones, so if Apple does use XDR, the XDR specifications for brightness will need to change. Given the lower black levels in its OLED smartphones vs. its XDR monitor, contrast should actually be higher on its smartphones, in fact, DisplayMate measures the latest Samsung Display OLED contrast ratios as infinite in low ambient light.
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Young also reiterates details he's previously sharedabout rumors suggesting Apple will bring 120Hz ProMotion displays to the iPhone 12 lineup.

Apple's iPhone 12 is not expected to use low-power LTPO technology, a feature Young believes is necessary for a fully functional 120Hz display given the power saving capabilities of LTPO technology.

Without LTPO, 120Hz is still possible, but it could be limited to non-native resolutions or it will be a significant power drain.

6.7-inch iPhone 12 Pro Max

The largest iPhone 12 Pro model that Apple plans to release in 2020 will feature a 6.68-inch display with a resolution of 2778 x 1284 at 458 PPI.

Young believes this model will have Y-OCTA support, 10-bit color, and will be XDR capable. Like the iPhone 12 Pro, it could also have a 120Hz refresh rate, but again, without LTPO.
 
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