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Apple Reinstating Employee Mask Mandate at Approximately 100 U.S. Retail Stores
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This podcast is worth a listen for those interested. Obviously it’s just one side of the argument but it’s pretty compelling stuff nonetheless. For your consideration only. Feel free to mock or ignore.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-fat-emperor-podcast/id1453181214?i=1000560568559
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-fat-emperor-podcast/id1453181214?i=1000560568559
Hold the phone! We also need a biologist involved so we can tell the women from men!
No, you asked a loaded question. The complete answer would be - Yes, I would rather wear the best mask I had available rather than nothing.
Are they properly fitted N95 masks? Because otherwise you might as well be wearing a mask made of lace.
Mask mandates are mostly for show nowadays because the cloth masks they allow don't do a damn thing. Omicron is so transmissible that only N95 masks have an effect, and even then you can still catch it. Since most people aren't willing to wear N95 masks they likely won't mandate them anytime soon.
If you want to wear a mask, wear one. Wear an N95 one too because otherwise you're just wasting your time.
(For the record, I started N95 masking again in crowded places since this surge has gotten worse. Not an anti-masker, just anti-mask *mandate*.)
Mask mandates are mostly for show nowadays because the cloth masks they allow don't do a damn thing. Omicron is so transmissible that only N95 masks have an effect, and even then you can still catch it. Since most people aren't willing to wear N95 masks they likely won't mandate them anytime soon.
If you want to wear a mask, wear one. Wear an N95 one too because otherwise you're just wasting your time.
(For the record, I started N95 masking again in crowded places since this surge has gotten worse. Not an anti-masker, just anti-mask *mandate*.)
What happens if you refuse to be forced to wear idiotic face diapers? Do they give you the pink slip?
Apple seems to think they can outrun an endemic
I love the people who wear a mask with their nose sticking out. Kinda like buckling your seat belt to stop the chime and then getting in your car.
I am definitely not one of those people but... shouldn't deaths and hospitalizations be the thing we base this stuff off of? Because COVID is staying here forever, and we can't keep masking forever. So it seems more logical to look for signs that the virus has mutated down, and/or our immune systems can handle it instead of just case counts... which mean very little outside of just how much it's out there at any given time.
So I don't see anywhere in this graph that shows masks made any difference... the virus ebbs and flows regardless of any human interventions. There is NO POINT where masks halted a surge or even prevented a surge. Prior to covid, CDC was against masking for pandemic scenarios because they knew that they don't work on a population health level. They only advocated for them this time to let people feel like they were doing SOMETHING.
Of course, you can't tell the effect of wearing a mask or other interventions from this graph, so your conclusion is based on nothing.
I can appreciate Apple being thorough where they need to be. The situation is always fluid and it rightfully should be. It’s their company, their rules. In our state, there’s quite a few retailers who are implementing masking again for employees, so it’s just a situation that’s very dynamic that requires a cautionary attitude.
Tell Tim to allow it if they are able to use masks inside. No problem especially if they aren’t super close to each other for the seating like if there’s a empty seat in between them.
I’d love to know what is so funny that some of you are responding to serious posts with a laughing emoji? Are you children? The science is not on your side, but yet you spout your little non-facts and spread your nonsense about non-existent studies, or studies done by four people in a closet, over the last two days. Grow up. People are dead.
FDA Advisory Panel Votes Against Endorsing Covid-19 Booster Shots Widely
An advisory panel endorsed Covid-19 boosters for people age 65-plus or at high risk but said there wasn’t enough data to justify giving it to the general population.
www.wsj.com
And the selfish jerks who couldn’t do that ruined it for everyone else.
The "laughing" reaction usually is a form of trolling that continues to persist here.
(easily identifiable when you see who is using it and how often... some folks just go along and "laugh" at every post many users make...becomes easy to see the trolling nature of it)
Very rarely is it used for an actual "I find this post genuinely funny/humorous" reaction.
I sort of wish MR would just nuke that reaction completely given how often it's just used for trolling.
(the flaw here is that reactions are seen by everyone, even if you've got the user ignored -- and trolls know it)
Love to see so many macrumors users are breaking the mask conditioning.
If you think your mask wearing has done anything to stop this virus, you have not been paying attention the last two years.
Please, hold your “fact check” articles.
If you think your mask wearing has done anything to stop this virus, you have not been paying attention the last two years.
Please, hold your “fact check” articles.
I still wear a mask when around other people. I recently had Covid, and it was horrible. I had such a mix of symptoms, and some were so freakish, that I definitely do not want to get it again. How did I get it? The wife took a flight to the west coast for a conference and sat beside a kid who wasn't wearing a mask much of the flight. (Being after noted virologist and epidemiologist Ed Bastian, CEO of Delta, declared masks didn't solve anything and then had to retract it) She was symptomatic by the time she was heading home and wore her mask the whole time on the flights.
I also don't want to get out of practice of wearing masks for when the first more deadly variant comes out. Covid is still out there, and it is mutating like crazy. They have found thousands of variants in the sewers of major cities. Memories of finding out that Ebola is still out there too, it just has a habit of mutating into and out of a really incredibly life threatening form. It goes from deadly/lethal to benign and back again.
If I was an employer that had people the company had spent a long time training for their jobs, I would strongly recommend that they use everything available to protect themselves, especially now.
I have been in several stores in the past 3 weeks where employees are wearing masks. That is out of about 4 total trips out foraging. I don't go out unless I really have to.
I also don't want to get out of practice of wearing masks for when the first more deadly variant comes out. Covid is still out there, and it is mutating like crazy. They have found thousands of variants in the sewers of major cities. Memories of finding out that Ebola is still out there too, it just has a habit of mutating into and out of a really incredibly life threatening form. It goes from deadly/lethal to benign and back again.
If I was an employer that had people the company had spent a long time training for their jobs, I would strongly recommend that they use everything available to protect themselves, especially now.
I have been in several stores in the past 3 weeks where employees are wearing masks. That is out of about 4 total trips out foraging. I don't go out unless I really have to.
The masks some Apple employees wear are not to protect themselves, it’s to protect their coworkers & customers from themselves. Wearing a mask doesn’t protect a person from getting COVID, but it’s effective at reducing the spread from the person wearing it.
I understand the facts. I just disagree with your conclusions.
FDA Advisory Panel Votes Against Endorsing Covid-19 Booster Shots Widely
An advisory panel endorsed Covid-19 boosters for people age 65-plus or at high risk but said there wasn’t enough data to justify giving it to the general population.
Yep. “Learn to live with it” is the only real option.
And cases rising is not the same as deaths/hospitalizations rising. The latter is not happening.
Love to see so many macrumors users are breaking the mask conditioning.
If you think your mask wearing has done anything to stop this virus, you have not been paying attention the last two years.
Please, hold your “fact check” articles.
Well, lets keep an eye on North Korea. They have no masks, no vaccines, and are isolated from the outside, yet have super spreader events rather often. They have, so far refused to accept any outside help to possibly control the spread. I would have thought they already had it from the beginning as they do share a long border with China, but who knows...
But they are perhaps the perfect petri dish to study for how the virus mutates in a largely open environment. Especially the idea of 'herd immunity', and the cost in human lives trying to achieve it.
FDA Advisory Panel Votes Against Endorsing Covid-19 Booster Shots Widely
An advisory panel endorsed Covid-19 boosters for people age 65-plus or at high risk but said there wasn’t enough data to justify giving it to the general population.
And who owns the Wall Street Journal? I wouldn't bet my life on anything they said.