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3 years into owning mm wave compatible iPhone, still have never seen it IRL. Would rather have the Apple modem and use less power....

... but I ordered a 17 pro max anyway.

It’s insane. I went to an event with my SO and got something like 3000mbps down.
 
wonder if this would help with my rural situation. I have a pixel 9 and AT&T (after trying everything else) is "fine" at my house... until it rains or there is bad weather (or if google releases an update that makes their phones bad at making PHONE CALLS)
 
wonder if this would help with my rural situation. I have a pixel 9 and AT&T (after trying everything else) is "fine" at my house... until it rains or there is bad weather (or if google releases an update that makes their phones bad at making PHONE CALLS)

It could just be ATT.

I’ve had the top 3.

T mobile is the only one that works well at my house. Both ATT and Verizon are aware they don’t work, they know why they don’t work. And have acknowledged that the price to fix it is more money, than if they were to lose every affected customer. So… I have t mobile. I like the 24 month EIP better anyway.
 
At an intersection in Virginia Beach...
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It could just be ATT.

I’ve had the top 3.

T mobile is the only one that works well at my house. Both ATT and Verizon are aware they don’t work, they know why they don’t work. And have acknowledged that the price to fix it is more money, than if they were to lose every affected customer. So… I have t mobile. I like the 24 month EIP better anyway.
Could be all of them. AT&T was the one that sucked the least after my tests a few years back. I was on Verizon when i was forced to try Visible (thinking well, at least if it sucks, it is less expensive than regular verizon), then Mint, then AT&T prepaid.

I got great signal on Verizon back on my samsung juke (which didn't do much, but at least the battery lasted a week!) at the same apartment before the rise of smartphones. Perhaps most 5g sucks where I live? Are the weaknesses of 5g bigger weaknesses in my specific location, etc?

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Excited for this. I definitely noticed a speed decrease with my 16 Pro compared to my 15 Pro. Hell, even my backup SE is quicker, and it doesn’t even have 5G!
 
the most informative thing I got from that was that the air doesn't support mmWave?! thank god I didn't order that this morning!
As a Pro owner since they debuted, I was quietly tempted by the Air. But in the end, I went the opposite way and got the heaviest poem they'v ever made. My first Max (512 blue). I've long-hovered over the Max, but hasve always default dot the reg Pro. I'm on iUP, so we'll see how a "year with a Max" goes.

That said, I use an M2 MBA daily and it's without question my fav Apple laptop I've ever used. Partly because MBPs (which I also use daily) are stupid heavy. If I have the option of grabbing one laptop when headed out the door, 98-99% of the time it's my MBA. For me, the MBP's weight-to-power/ports-gained ratio is just not worth it. The MBA is such a perfect portable. Like the culmination of so many years of R&D. Oddly enough, my iPad mini 6 is similarly perfect. Easily my fav iPad I have used since the OG debut (and several in between).

I have a feeling the iPhone Air is going to be a great feeling phone, in-hand. If Pros could magically get there, I'm 1,000% in. 🤪
 
Why wouldn't they have antennas behind glass structures (front or back faces ) ?
Seeing as it’s more line of sight on mmWave, having it on the top of the phone so it’s likely pointing away and upwards from you as you hold it seems ideal.

Probably will better connect and hold onto a signal this way. Also your hand isn’t going to be covering it at all.
 
MMWave is very finnicky; won't go through drywall, could probably even be blocked by a hand.

honestly I think it's a completely pointless technology… like it's designed for use in shopping malls, movie theaters and sports arenas.

Yes. mmWave really serves no long-term purpose on a phone. better suited for fixed wireless (5g Home, etc.)
 
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MMWave is very finnicky; won't go through drywall, could probably even be blocked by a hand.

honestly I think it's a completely pointless technology… like it's designed for use in shopping malls, movie theaters and sports arenas.
Well - you call it pointless and then list the exact usage scenarios it's best for: (relatively) small areas with large numbers of people all together. Add touristy beach areas to the list. Fort Lauderdale Beach and South Beach are covered in mmWave.
 
Me too, and I'm so confused. Is the gist of this mmwave biz that we should get better/broader/faster coverage and data?
mmWave uses much higher spectrum than 4G, 3G and 2G. Higher frequencies support higher speeds, but the tradeoff is that signals don't travel as far. So to cover a given area with mmWave, operators need a much higher density of cell sites. That doesn't make business sense except in densely populated areas such as downtowns and in neighborhoods where it's sold as an alternative to fiber and copper for residential broadband.
 
I always wonder how cases impact that. If it's so sensitive they have to use a glass area for the antenna, what does a case do to it? I've gone pretty minimalist on my last couple cases (just the stick on top and bottom bumper and camera cover... just enough to cover those areas most likely to be impacted on a drop) - but with it moving to the top, I would think the top bumper piece even potentially could be an issue.
 
mmWave uses much higher spectrum than 4G, 3G and 2G. Higher frequencies support higher speeds, but the tradeoff is that signals don't travel as far. So to cover a given area with mmWave, operators need a much higher density of cell sites. That doesn't make business sense except in densely populated areas such as downtowns and in neighborhoods where it's sold as an alternative to fiber and copper for residential broadband.
So basically, if we're in a major city downtown, it should be significantly better, but outside of that, it doesn't really matter? Thanks.
 
Could be all of them. AT&T was the one that sucked the least after my tests a few years back. I was on Verizon when i was forced to try Visible (thinking well, at least if it sucks, it is less expensive than regular verizon), then Mint, then AT&T prepaid.

I got great signal on Verizon back on my samsung juke (which didn't do much, but at least the battery lasted a week!) at the same apartment before the rise of smartphones. Perhaps most 5g sucks where I live? Are the weaknesses of 5g bigger weaknesses in my specific location, etc?

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Hold up, is that a real cellphone you still actively use today?
 
I live in Los Angeles and have yet to see mm wave anywhere but at events in large venues, and that only occasionally. But then I'm not downloading videos or anything that could use the speed because I'm busy watching what I went there to see and my phone is in my pocket. It's utterly useless to me.
 
It seems like it’s also included on the Canadian version.

It seems like all the markets where the eSIM only version will arrive have the antenna window. Mexico, and Saudi Arabia websites shows it too. However, maybe it’s only the architecture of the device, and no mmWave antenna is on it. Or maybe is disabled.
 
I've had mmWave since the 13 Pro. Never used it. Supposedly it's on the strip in Las Vegas, so I've been around it, but who is looking at their phone when on the strip?

Edit: Didn't even know that my 16 Pro didn't have that strip/cover ..huh..? Haven't looked at it without a case since the day I bought it.
Don’t feel bad, I just found out today while reading the article that my 15 Pro Max has it.
 
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