Apple Reiterates: Force Quitting iOS Apps Doesn’t Help Battery Life

[dk001]

That is WEIRD. I've never run into that and it shouldn't be happening unless there's some scenario where a bunch of badly coded or nefarious programs are tying up all the RAM... (?) Should be no big deal for iOS to just dump enough programs to fit the new one-especially on a device with 4GB! Seems like something's going wrong somewhere.

I agree. Yet when I reached out to Spectrum, the CS rep was aware of the issue and this was the solution. It was common enough apparently that they had a ready on hand answer.

So true. An IPP G2 ... go figure.
It only is a small handful of apps. Now the reload issue for apps and Safari tabs ... that is an iOS 11 problem

 

[Wolfpup]

I agree. Yet when I reached out to Spectrum, the CS rep was aware of the issue and this was the solution. It was common enough apparently that they had a ready on hand answer.

So true. An IPP G2 ... go figure.
It only is a small handful of apps. Now the reload issue for apps and Safari tabs ... that is an iOS 11 problem

What on Earth is the Spectrum program doing to cause that? (Or is it literally using like 3.75GB or something lol) And what's this about apps ans Safari tabs?

 

[dk001]

What on Earth is the Spectrum program doing to cause that? (Or is it literally using like 3.75GB or something lol) And what's this about apps ans Safari tabs?

Not all that RAM is available. In most cases very little is open. Usually less than 10%.
Example: At the moment I have (constantly changing)

Wire 10%
Active 45.8%
Inactive 19.1%
Other 18.7%
Free 5.6%

When you launch an app, if more RAM is needed, the system sill do what it needs to free up RAM for the process(es).
For some apps, it appears to be doing a poor job on one end or the other.

How many times have you changed tabs, or changed apps, the gone back to a tab in Safari or to an app via the Task Manager and the tab or app has to completely reload? It has been happening far more frequently under 11 than the latest versions of 10.

 

[theelysium]

What does having free unused RAM help with?

Are you being sarcastic or serious?

I'll assume serious it frees up virtual memory to be used by apps. if you see your phone stuttering, loading slower, etc clear out your ram. If you want to clear out the reserve RAM you will have to quit all apps then restart your device.

 

[C DM]

Are you being sarcastic or serious?

I'll assume serious it frees up virtual memory to be used by apps. if you see your phone stuttering, loading slower, etc clear out your ram. If you want to clear out the reserve RAM you will have to quit all apps then restart your device.

The thing is that if RAM isn't being used then it's not doing any good basically. If and when RAM is needed the OS then frees up what's needed (if not enough free RAM is available) and that RAM gets used for whatever it is that the OS needs it. So basically whether it's free or not the OS will use what it needs (either taking from free or freeing up what it needs from used) without the need to free up RAM manually to have it just sitting free.

 

[dk001]

The thing is that if RAM isn't being used then it's not doing any good basically. If and when RAM is needed the OS then frees up what's needed (if not enough free RAM is available) and that RAM gets used for whatever it is that the OS needs it. So basically whether it's free or not the OS will use what it needs (either taking from free or freeing up what it needs from used) without the need to free up RAM manually to have it just sitting free.

That is one aspect I am experiencing in iOS 11 as a downgrade from 10.3.3.
Hope they get it fixed.

• Having to power sip to supplement my current battery life.
• Having to kill tasks to launch certain apps.
• Feeling like I took a step back a couple of iOS generations.

It is not a MasterCard moment.

 

[kdarling]

It's not such a big issue now that these devices have much more RAM and the flash storage is much faster, but anyone else annoyed by how iOS takes a photo of a running program to try to make it look like it's responding faster than it is?

It makes people think their device is faster than it really is. Like the clever way that apps have a startup picture to make it look like they launch quicker.

I agree it can be annoying waiting for the real app to take over from the screenshot.

Those screenshots take up memory, too. I've found that when Safari is reloading a lot or another intensive app is balking, they become better if I take the time to force close all the recent apps. Could be coincidence, but seems to help.

 

[kazmac]

Quitting apps in the background means less battery drain on my iPhone and iPP. I also quit WiFi (via settings) every night for even less drain.

 

[iamasmith]

I'm going to email him and ask him what hair product he recommends.

Since he's a Rush fan it will be something for 'Permanent Waves'