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Apple Rejected Approximately 35% of Apps Submitted to App Store Between 2017 and 2019
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Assuming this is in America, I don’t know the pay scale or support staff infrastructure (managers, QA, script writers, it support, escalation leaders, etc) but that’s got to be close to $20 million / year at a guess.
How many apps do you have left? Not many really good apps have no income stream such as ads or subscriptions.
Have they been actively reviewing your app for 7 hours or is your app simply in a queue waiting to be looked at.
I have a feeling these people are being asked to work more than 8 hours a day…
No wonder this trial is pegged to take so long... almost all the info so far has NOTHING to do with Epic skirting the payment system they agreed to.
The judge should be asking relevance to claims.
Who cares is a non-Epic school shooting app made it into the store?
Bad taste, slip up but betting that app got in because it didnt red flag any issues like payments outside.
If this is the best epic can do, they better hope they have better ammo before the closing remarks as everyone in court will be asleep and miss their arguments.
Epic sounding even more like sooky losers.
The judge should be asking relevance to claims.
Who cares is a non-Epic school shooting app made it into the store?
Bad taste, slip up but betting that app got in because it didnt red flag any issues like payments outside.
If this is the best epic can do, they better hope they have better ammo before the closing remarks as everyone in court will be asleep and miss their arguments.
Epic sounding even more like sooky losers.
Epic has no case and they know it.
They are simply trying to drag as many of Apple's skeletons out of the closet in the hope that something might help their case. All these may make for fun clickbait headlines but at the end of the day, we all know how this is going to end.
It's probably a lot worse than that. Every app is supposed to be reviewed by two people. So actually they're supposed to be reviewing 400 apps per week.
Factor in that they have training, meetings, breaks, downtime when tech doesn't work, vacations, etc, and it's probably closer to 25 hours actually reviewing apps per week. So 400 apps / 25 hours = 16 apps per hour or an app every 3.75 minutes = 225 seconds.
Then you also have to factor in that they try loading these apps on multiple devices, and have forms to fill out for what happens on each of them.
Is it any wonder that they hardly catch anything at all?
Anybody know if there are ANY public accounts of Apple using it's SourceDNA technology to Reverse Engineer apps ?
This article was the first I've heard of SourceDNA.
And, it's gotten me thinking what Apple might be up to with it.
This article was the first I've heard of SourceDNA.
And, it's gotten me thinking what Apple might be up to with it.
I've always wondered how new features that are pioneered in apps by small developers magically show up in later versions of iOS and macOS. It makes it much easier when you can fish out pre-written code from small developers that you can "evaluate for malware" *cough* swipe to later use in your own products *cough*, and then have your lawyers crush them if they get uppity about it.
Considering the number of bogus, copycat, bug-ridden and/or malware infested apps that make it past the reviewers, I'm assuming that most of the rejected apps are ones that were actually useful.
I have the same mindset. I don't pay for subpar apps, especially the ones you described.
There is absolutely no chance that apple stole bits of object code from these apps. apple does not receive source code (which is the only thing that would be useful if they were interested in stealing anything). The automated tools can see binary signatures that match malware, and can see strings corresponding to the names of frameworks and the like. That’s absolutely useless to them if they want to steal app functionality. Your theory seems to shows a lack of any understanding of computer science.
I've probably forgotten more computer science then you've ever acquired. There is this concept called "reverse engineering" that you may want to study up on. Maybe look up some details about disassemblers too.
So you think apple is going to disassemble object code instead of looking at a feature and simply implementing it? You don’t think apple has considerable expertise in coding without having to disassemble?
BTW, I have a Ph.D in electrical engineering with a concentration in computer engineering, another concentration in solid state physics, 15 years experience designing CPUs, including 9 years at AMD, I designed the 64-bit integer instruction math instruction set for AMD64 (now called x86-64), I was one of the first 400 members of the apple iphoneos developer program, I sold tens of thousands of copies of apps on the App Store, and I’ve written millions of lines of code in C, C++, Objective C, swift, perl, python, php, FORTRAN, and various assembly languages. For five years I was in charge of writing all of the in-house electronic design automation tools at AMD. So maybe can it with the insults.
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I swear I've never honked Apple! You can ask my mother. I concede that your illustrious credentials gleaned from watching many hours of portrayals of "computer scientists" on TV and movies trumps my pitiful 36 years in the industry. I am now broken, humbled by the fact that you would even acknowledge my existence. Maybe someday, I too can hope to scale the ramparts of knowledge and reach a summit of achievements such as yours. I fade into the background, disgraced and ashamed.
that is a kind of false. Lots of junk apps and also to include fake apps. Moviebox users like me there is always in apple store a fake app that is actually moviebox
You might actually want to look up "reverse engineering" in a dictionary yourself. Just saying.
If anything, this makes a strong case for Apple to clamp down on the App Store even harder. You could probably nuke ½ or the apps in the App Store and nothing of any real value would be lost. Raise the bar for what makes a minimum viable app, hire more manpower, increase the vetting time if necessary.
Strengthen editorial to help surface the quality apps (something like what Macstories does).
The problem right now isn’t a dearth of apps. It’s the App Store being flooded with too many apps to the point of making it harder than ever for the legitimately good apps to stand out from the pack.
Contrary to opening up the App Store and letting the free market work it out, Apple may even have to resort to doing something like Apple Arcade for other app categories. Pay a monthly fee to be recommended good apps that legitimately improve the iOS experience.
Perhaps the solution is more curation, not less.
Epic: “since a few apps slipped through out of millions shouldn’t you not have QC?”
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they are truly desperate and dumb
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they are truly desperate and dumb
reverse engineering
noun
the reproduction of another manufacturer's product following detailed examination of its construction or composition.
Tell me what I'm missing here. Or is English not your first language?
I think a more reasonable comparison would be that a burgalar smashed my door down with a sledge hammer so I removed all the locks from my house! Because Apple is trying to lock the house as best as it can. But just because someone circumevnts it, doesn't mean it should stop.
Regardless of the comparison, it's a really stupid argument.
Sounds like Apple may need to dig into their billion dollar profits and hire & train more app reviewers. I’d do it.