Apple Releases 17'' MacBook Pro

[BGil]

No I wonder again...how COME people voted negative for this news?

The 17" MBP is just the best machine out there, for those who need such a size...it is THE most powerful OS X mobile machine, and THE most powerful Windows mobile machine.

The feature list is just wonderful, and the price point perfect...another amazing feat by Apple.

I don't see how you can say it's the most powerful windows machine:
Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2600 (2.16GHz/667MHz FSB)
Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 7800
100GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
10/100 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
Combo/DVD+RW Drives 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
Wireless Networking Cards Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini Card (54Mbps)
Primary Battery 53 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Hardware Warranty 1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr Mail-In Service, and 1Yr HW Warranty Support
Wireless Personal Networking Card Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Internal(2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition re-installation CD
Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition
Dell Digital Entertainment Starter Entertainment Pack - Basic digital Music, Photo and Game experience

1,920.00 with coupon code ZRFVGS97PK1F1?

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=16029949
And numerous other companies sell PC's with A64 X2's and Pentium D's.

You can get notebooks with SLI and dual internal hard drives now.

 

[twoodcc]

I don't see how you can say it's the most powerful windows machine:
Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2600 (2.16GHz/667MHz FSB)
Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 7800
100GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
10/100 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
Combo/DVD+RW Drives 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
Wireless Networking Cards Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini Card (54Mbps)
Primary Battery 53 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Hardware Warranty 1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr Mail-In Service, and 1Yr HW Warranty Support
Wireless Personal Networking Card Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Internal(2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition re-installation CD
Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition
Dell Digital Entertainment Starter Entertainment Pack - Basic digital Music, Photo and Game experience

1,920.00 with coupon code ZRFVGS97PK1F1?

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=16029949
And numerous other companies sell PC's with A64 X2's and Pentium D's.

You can get notebooks with SLI and dual internal hard drives now.

but that's not a laptop. it's a "mobile desktop"

 

[Cerebrum]

My 2 cents.

I've seen that a 17 inch is not necessary unless you require the power of a destop PC that can be fit in a bag, or if you just like the high end specifications on an unusually large LCD laptop. But people enjoy carrying a 17 inch laptop, but I can never see myself doing that (I have back problems). Maybe if you're a video editor and need to take your work with you, or if you are a serious gamer, things like these would probably excuse you for having such a large screen.

I own a 15 inch PB with a 1.67 G4 processor, and when Apple switched to Intel, I lost respect for Apple, not completely, but some was lost. I always enjoyed keeping my systems separated, I have a PC and I have my PB, I like them to be separated (at least 3 feet).

Personally I like having the super high end features on a desktop machine. My PC will always beat any Powerbook or Macbook Pro ever made because of how much expandability options I have with it, and how much cheaper I can get it for. I always thought of laptops as...mobile productivity machines, but today, it is more than that. Laptops, amongs both PCs and Macs, these have become so huge that well, I can't call them laptop sometimes. Macs keep the slim profile, which I guess saves them from being the 12+ pound beasts some PC laptops are, but i'm sure we're not too far from Mac creating even heavier beasts as the years pass.

In regards to Apple releasing their new 17 Inch MBP, well..I wouldn't buy it for the same reasons I wouldn't buy a 15 inch MBP. They all have things I like and things I don't like. On my PB I use FW800 all the time with my external 600GB HD. I don't like Intel processors on Macs, I loved how the G line of processors was original, and now, they are nothing more than pretty looking PC laptops (Which seems to be one of the main reasons why people buy them sometimes). Oh yes, I said it. When Boot Camp came out, most of my hardcore Mac-loving friends went into a coma, to this day they refuse to snap out of it. Everyone knew that you could install XP on Intel-based Macs, and hacking it was fun, but now that Apple extended it's arm and said "Hey buddy, let me give you a hand at making our already crappy MacBook Pros crappier," it just makes me now complain rather than praise that I can hack Windows onto the MBP. While the iSight is inviting to have built in, I like the external one. It lets me move it around where I please. If I wanna show my friends my cool new....fridge...?....I don't have to move the laptop around and look stupid to my neighbors as they look at me through the window. The Intel processors are much faster, yes, but if I wanted fast intel processors, i'd buy a PC laptop, which i've owned about 3. I like the somewhat faster RAM, the new video card, but well, those are things that really aren't too essential for me, I'm upgrading my PB RAM to 2 gigs this summer, that should be enough. And also, I like the name "PowerBook" "MacBook Pro" sounds like something Jobs made up as he was in the crapper. I hate that name, it's not catchy at all.

In conclusion, I like the G processors (LONG LIVE THE G!!), I like my moveable iSight, and I like to have a laptop, not a 17 inch surfboard. Of course, most of you may disagree with me, and if you saw me on the street you'd stone me, but hey, at least I have a G processor.

Oh and uh...17 inch MBP...nice. Wouldn't buy it, but nice.

Those are my 2 cents.

- C.M.Sevilla

P.S. I apologize for the lengthy post, but I could keep quiet no longer!

 

[bodeh6]

....
You can get notebooks with SLI and dual internal hard drives now.

I wouldn't call those laptops... The MBP while not as extreme as the most high end PC laptops like the Dell XPS M1707, or Alienware, is still plenty powerful and all in a compact light package.

 

[tny]

is the 17" thicker than the 15" ??
Cause the reason why they didn't put double layer into the 15" was thickness issues, right?
Anyone know ?

According to Dave Schroeder's posting on /., the trackpad and the DVD-+R/RW DL can't be stacked within 1", so there wasn't enough room in the 15" case. They don't have to be stacked with the wider 17" case.

 

[BlizzardBomb]

I'd like a 20" MacBook Pro

You might want to check the Apple Store again! It's right there! Yeah, it's called an iMac.

 

[Whistleway]

These look darn nice.. Wow.

 

[DKZ]

but that's not a laptop. it's a "mobile desktop"

So is a 17" MBP.

 

[iHeartTheApple]

8x SD *and* FW800 is back...woohoo! Well played, Apple!!! That's going to be tough to beat...I may not move down to a smaller lappy after all...I may just trade my 17" PB up for this sexy beast!

 

[MovieCutter]

I don't see how you can say it's the most powerful windows machine:
Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2600 (2.16GHz/667MHz FSB)
Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 7800
100GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
10/100 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
Combo/DVD+RW Drives 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
Wireless Networking Cards Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini Card (54Mbps)
Primary Battery 53 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Hardware Warranty 1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr Mail-In Service, and 1Yr HW Warranty Support
Wireless Personal Networking Card Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Internal(2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition re-installation CD
Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition
Dell Digital Entertainment Starter Entertainment Pack - Basic digital Music, Photo and Game experience

1,920.00 with coupon code ZRFVGS97PK1F1?

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=16029949
And numerous other companies sell PC's with A64 X2's and Pentium D's.

You can get notebooks with SLI and dual internal hard drives now.

Good for you...you have fun with that. I on the other hand will be enjoying running Final Cut Pro and iLife 06, not to mention OSX on my 6.8lbs 1" thick 17" MacBook Pro with firewire800, Front Row, built-in camera and 5 hour battery life.

 

[nicksoper]

Just wondering why the New 17inch macbook is £430/$766 more expensive in the UK than it in the states?

They are not made in the states, or go via the states when they are shipped are they? So it's not a geographical cost. Why the extra cost? or are English mac users just richer or prepared to pay more?

Slightly anooying for digital art students like me. Its almost worth flying to New York to get one from an apple store.

 

[nicksoper]

Just wondering why the New 17inch macbook is £430/$766 more expensive in the UK than it in the states?

They are not made in the states, or go via the states when they are shipped are they? So it's not a geographical cost. Why the extra cost? or are English mac users just richer or prepared to pay more?

Slightly anooying for digital art students like me. Its almost worth flying to New York to get one from an apple store.

Oh and I am super glad about FW 800 returning, the supposed 5.5 hour battery life and the 3 USB ports.

 

[paddy]

Again another rip off for Apples European user base. Its costing €2929 or $3614 for the bare bones 17" model. Come on Apple, I know we have higher taxes and all that but how do you justify almost a $1000 increase??

 

[Bubbasteve]

i want one!!!!! alas, i will be getting a plain macbook, which wasnt released. hmpf

And there's nothing wrong with that

 

[joeboy_45101]

This is great news and all, but is it just me or is anybody else beginning to think that $2799 is way to much to be spending on a notebook. Why is Apple not doing anything to make their machines more affordable? Apple's marketing department needs to ditch the archaic pricing schemes and start making these things priced to sell. I could understand $1799 or even $1999, but not $2799. With a pricing scheme like this who needs enemies like Dell, HP, or Microsoft.

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

There's something I haven't seen anyone mention yet...

TS predicted this a week ago. Remember than next time you talk trash about TS. I know they've made some erroneous predictions in the past, and I know that the sun even shines on a dog's a** once in while. Nevertheless, give those cats a little credit for breaking a story...

I guess no one's mentioned that because AppleInsider was the first to break the story. TS ran their article later in the day and had this to say:

Sources have also speculated that the 17-inch MacBook Pro will ship with a 2.16GHz Core Duo processor and an option to upgrade to the yet-unannounced 2.33GHz Core Duo processor.

Well, I don't see a 2.33GHz option, do you? So TS is wrong ONCE AGAIN. It seems TS took AI's information and then speculated that since the 2.33 processor had been announced by Intel that Apple would be using that as a 17" upgrade, but they were wrong.

For the time being, I'll stick to AI for my rumors, thank you very much.

 

[Seasought]

I'm just thankful I'm not in the market for needing a new Mac laptop currently. This make me even more curious as to what the regular Macbooks will be specced like (as well as price).

 

[nomore]

I've placed my order

Now I just need to buy some extra RAM

 

[nomore]

This is great news and all, but is it just me or is anybody else beginning to think that $2799 is way to much to be spending on a notebook. Why is Apple not doing anything to make their machines more affordable? Apple's marketing department needs to ditch the archaic pricing schemes and start making these things priced to sell. I could understand $1799 or even $1999, but not $2799. With a pricing scheme like this who needs enemies like Dell, HP, or Microsoft.

Build quality.

 

[schinnadorai]

I hope this means we're getting closer to the new iBooks!

Hopefully they are going to release a new iBook (MacBook) soon. I'm still using a pc beacause i'm waiting for the macbooks to arrive. What is taking them so long. Surely the iBook is in more demand than another screen size of the MacBook Pro.

 

[QCassidy352]

On Apple's website it says that the 15" MacBook Pro has a display that's 67% brighter than the previous one... and the 17" one is 36% brighter than the previous.

So, what does the mean? Is the 15" display brighter than the 17" one? Or, was the old 17" display brighter to begin with, so they're about the same now?

Yes, the last generation 17" G4 had increased screen brightness, but the last generation 15" did not. So without actually doing the math (because I don't know the numbers), I'd guess it's quite likely that they are exactly even now (300 cd/m2) whereas the 17" was brighter when they were G4s.

 

[4God]

ATTN:

Hey Everybody!
Dont Buy until Revision B!!!

Yeah, I was wondering if these 17 inchers will come with that whine noise that became so unpopular?

 

[milo]

No, you will have to ad that on your own, as has many other users done before. Just do a search

Sadly, I wish you could say that for sure. But we won't know if the 17 has noise problems until it ships and we hear reports on it.

It's the same processor... so I imagine it will produce the same first degree burns.

Hopefully not. Not all 15's are hot, hopefully it's just a problem with the cooling system (that can be fixed).

Is this the first time we've had a major product like this released on a Monday? Very nice price by the way.

I think apple has released powermac updates on the sunday night of the NAB show.

I think this is a gross exageration of the amount of people effected.

I don't think any of us are in a position to say how widespread the problem is. Just as someone having a bad machine doesn't make it widespread, someone without a problem doesn't eliminate the possibility that it may be widespread. I find it alarming that some people have been through three or four units and all of them have had problems.

There is always going to be a newer, nicer, cooler product to replace your 6 month old machine, and unless you like to constantly buy and sell your mac and make up for the loss in cash, you're just going to have to look forward to rev. E.

This has nothing to do with heat or noise issues. There's a big difference between waiting for improved specs and waiting for bugs to be fixed, don't confuse the two.

 

[mongoos150]

Good for you...you have fun with that. I on the other hand will be enjoying...5 hour battery life.

Keep dreamin'

 

[Multimedia]

Faster Smaller 100GB Battery Eater or Slower Bigger 120GB Battery Conserver?

Already ordered mine...now I just gotta get rid of my 15".

Which HD did you go with MovieCutter?

The Faster Smaller 100GB Battery Eater or the Slower Bigger 120GB Battery Conserver?

I think bigger slower battery conserver is my choice. I can remember when 5400 was the faster speed. I'm thinking 5400 is fast enough. What do you think? Anyone please.

BTW Omni via ramseeker.com sells the 1GB PC2-5300 667 MHz sticks for $128 Hyper CAS 2.5 or $73 Optival CAS 3. Apple? $270