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Apple Releases 4th Gen iPod
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MacBoyX
macrumors 6502
Not sure...
I don't know HOW I feel about this update.
1. They just HAD to change the size so none of my Docks (I bought 2) will work with the new one. This stinks.
2. The Software Update can't be applied to 3G iPods? That really stinks. It appears the improvements are software based not firmware. I just bought a 20GB 3Gen and now I can't get any new features. I thought Apple pushed the "update your pod" features with the 1G/2G iPods.
3. Why does everyone keep saying Yay lower pricing? It's more for the same price yes, but they only dropped the 499 model and maybe temporary?
I just don't get why they couldnt leave it 1mm (I mean 1mm? who cares). I don't get this.
I am not one to complain abt Apple's way of doing things but it seems they coulda done better.
macboyX
I don't know HOW I feel about this update.
1. They just HAD to change the size so none of my Docks (I bought 2) will work with the new one. This stinks.
2. The Software Update can't be applied to 3G iPods? That really stinks. It appears the improvements are software based not firmware. I just bought a 20GB 3Gen and now I can't get any new features. I thought Apple pushed the "update your pod" features with the 1G/2G iPods.
3. Why does everyone keep saying Yay lower pricing? It's more for the same price yes, but they only dropped the 499 model and maybe temporary?
I just don't get why they couldnt leave it 1mm (I mean 1mm? who cares). I don't get this.
I am not one to complain abt Apple's way of doing things but it seems they coulda done better.
macboyX
Hmmm 0 for 3.
No wifi for integration with airport express (perhaps a new dock is coming).
No bluetooth for easy syncing with iCal/address book.
But most importantly, no optical out.
Oh well... I'll hold out for a bigger/cheaper mini.
No wifi for integration with airport express (perhaps a new dock is coming).
No bluetooth for easy syncing with iCal/address book.
But most importantly, no optical out.
Oh well... I'll hold out for a bigger/cheaper mini.
sinisterdesign
macrumors 6502
cube said:
???!?? in what consumer world do you live? Sony is notoriously Mac-incompatible (apart from digi-cams) and Sony doesn't even allow the use of MP3, much LESS iTunes compatible. you go ahead & wait on that Sony product, i'll be listening to my iPod...
i have a 20gb 3gbrennen said:
since owning it i have rarely needed to use it for more than 6 hours before returning to the charger, but once or twice i've had it on almost all day at work plus travelling time, equalling about 8.5 hours... thats with volume between 70% and 100% (noisy buses, less noisy office), and listening to playlists, no shuffle.
Aw, Crapforcrap...my cram and jam combo just arrived on Friday 😡 dumbest thing I ever did.
What a horrible start to my monday morning....
What a horrible start to my monday morning....
noooo dont feel like that, you have a fantastically cool new laptop and one of the very last 3g ipods! the red lights are oh so pretty and you know it, now turn that frown upside down 😀18thTomorrow said:
itsa said:
Since I got broadband and Audion with access to 5000 streams, I've drastically reduced my expenditures in CDs.
fixyourthinking
macrumors 6502a
Has anyone else heard if there's a new game?
I read in a slashdot post that there's a new game on the iPod, does anyone know what it is?
I would love for there to be a version of Tetris on there.
I read in a slashdot post that there's a new game on the iPod, does anyone know what it is?
I would love for there to be a version of Tetris on there.
neon said:
You could always customize the ipod's menu to put shuffle on the main menu (I did) so counting this as a new feature is kind of hookey.
Trekkie said:
A replacement for My Dat Player would be my logical use for the iPod. I fail to see what this has to do with the RIAA and how they have any legal right to dictate to anybody what enviromental samples they wish to record.
iPod would/could also make a nice little device for sound recording for FCP etc.
sinisterdesign said:
Yeah. Sony sucks. But it will bite the dust with ATRAC. As for iTunes compatibility the day they support MP3, I rely on 3rd-party developers.
18thfortomorrow, I thought there was some fort of 18 day rule where if there was an update within 18 days, they would replace it free up to the new one.?
Steamboatwillie
macrumors regular
Is it just me or am I right in proclaiming that the click-scroll wheel is a step backwards? It seems to me that having clickable switches (verses the touch sensitive switches in my 3g 20gb) will wear out and/or break. Don't get me wrong, I totally think the 4g and Mini's are very cool (bought my wife a Mini) but I feel that the mechanical switches were a bad idea and a downgrade from where the iPod was in the 3g model.
And I too am disappointed that the 4g is the only iPod to get an OS update. That's just lame. Trust me when I tell you that is no incentive for me to buy a 4g. Guess I'll just have to suffer with my now ancient 3g...
Lastly, the whole shuffle thing. Moving the shuffle option to the main menu is so far from what I want (and have asked Apple for) I simply want to create a playlist in iTunes, set it to shuffle and update it to my iPod. Now, every time I play that list it automatically reshuffles. Global shuffling on or off is such a non-Apple way to do things. It's limiting and one of my biggest gripes with my iPod.
All that being said, I still love my 3g and I use it every day.
And I too am disappointed that the 4g is the only iPod to get an OS update. That's just lame. Trust me when I tell you that is no incentive for me to buy a 4g. Guess I'll just have to suffer with my now ancient 3g...
Lastly, the whole shuffle thing. Moving the shuffle option to the main menu is so far from what I want (and have asked Apple for) I simply want to create a playlist in iTunes, set it to shuffle and update it to my iPod. Now, every time I play that list it automatically reshuffles. Global shuffling on or off is such a non-Apple way to do things. It's limiting and one of my biggest gripes with my iPod.
All that being said, I still love my 3g and I use it every day.
C-Mezak
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MacBoyX said:
Have you heard specifically that the new ipods will not work with the old docks? Im not certain, but I think they will. Because if they dont work with the old docks then they will also not work with other third party devices that dock with the ipod in a similar way.
Thinner?
The 20 GB is definitely thinner (.62" to .57" thick), however I don't have the number on the 3Gs, but it looks like the 40 GB is still much thicker (.73" to .69"). I almost rushed out to buy one, and then read a little deeper into the specs. Maybe the 20 GB is the right size now... hmmm
The 20 GB is definitely thinner (.62" to .57" thick), however I don't have the number on the 3Gs, but it looks like the 40 GB is still much thicker (.73" to .69"). I almost rushed out to buy one, and then read a little deeper into the specs. Maybe the 20 GB is the right size now... hmmm
sinisterdesign
macrumors 6502
hmmmmm...
yeah, i agree. i was pretty certain that this release was not going to have all the pie-in-the-sky features that have been talked about here for the past few months (wi-fi, color screen, video out, remote capabilities), but i gotta admit, i was at LEAST hoping for a choice of colors and a 60GB drive.
macboy, you're right that 1 mm isn't really worth bragging that you reduced the size if all you did was screw over all your customers w/ accessories that will no longer be useable. hopefully that small of a size difference won't matter w/ the dock. i would take your current dock to an Apple store & plop in one of the new iPods to test it.
i don't know, i've been itching for a new iPod for months. i've got a 2nd gen 20GB that's run out of room. i've also been wanting to get the 'ipod-your-bmw' deal, but my current iPod isn't compatible. but i just don't know if this one has ENOUGH new stuff on it for me to plunk down the ca$h. i just don't know...
MacBoyX said:
yeah, i agree. i was pretty certain that this release was not going to have all the pie-in-the-sky features that have been talked about here for the past few months (wi-fi, color screen, video out, remote capabilities), but i gotta admit, i was at LEAST hoping for a choice of colors and a 60GB drive.
macboy, you're right that 1 mm isn't really worth bragging that you reduced the size if all you did was screw over all your customers w/ accessories that will no longer be useable. hopefully that small of a size difference won't matter w/ the dock. i would take your current dock to an Apple store & plop in one of the new iPods to test it.
i don't know, i've been itching for a new iPod for months. i've got a 2nd gen 20GB that's run out of room. i've also been wanting to get the 'ipod-your-bmw' deal, but my current iPod isn't compatible. but i just don't know if this one has ENOUGH new stuff on it for me to plunk down the ca$h. i just don't know...
Sabbath
macrumors 6502a
Look pretty good, massive price drop in the UK, although everywhere has been selling the old models cheap recently. With a minor tweak they seem to have solved most peoples issues with the iPod. Sure there are a few additional features we would like if they didn't compromise the original design but this looks like a good update.
I wonder if anyone will hack the software to work on a 3G as I would definitely welcome the ability to delete from on the go playlists and add more than one playlist. Also it seems the longer battery life is at least partly due to better power management, I wonder if we could see some of this in the 3G. Obviously Apple won't update the software but might we see a hack.
I wonder if anyone will hack the software to work on a 3G as I would definitely welcome the ability to delete from on the go playlists and add more than one playlist. Also it seems the longer battery life is at least partly due to better power management, I wonder if we could see some of this in the 3G. Obviously Apple won't update the software but might we see a hack.
What happened to the colour display
What happened to all those rumoured features - Colour screen, photo viewing , AV output etc? Do you think the 60Gb drive might be for use in a different device from the iPod, which has the features above? The improved battery life would be necessary for a colour display, or is the idea just a dead duck?
What happened to all those rumoured features - Colour screen, photo viewing , AV output etc? Do you think the 60Gb drive might be for use in a different device from the iPod, which has the features above? The improved battery life would be necessary for a colour display, or is the idea just a dead duck?
Yeah, that sucks. I wasn't expecting to get EVERY new feature for my 3G, but having a few of them -- shuffle in the main menu and the improved scrolling, mainly -- would've been really nice.jesuscandle said:
What I'd really like in my iPod is Party Shuffle. My Party Shuffle in iTunes is rigged off a Smart Playlist of all my songs rated 3 stars or higher. But I love how I can tell it to play a particular song NEXT, reorder the list, remove things I don't feel like hearing, etc.
I would love if they could combine the new shuffle option (which they should really give to all of us with 3G iPods) with the On The Go Playlists and link it to the Party Shuffle options in iTunes (as to which playlist it pulls from, etc.), thus effectively giving the iPod much of the same functionality as Party Shuffle.
SilentPanda
Moderator emeritus
Got a message from Apple...
To Our Valued Apple Customer:
Thank you for your recent order for an iPod.
Apple is thrilled to announce an exciting new generation of iPods! Your
order has been automatically upgraded to the new generation 40GB iPod,
at no additional cost. Your order will ship on or before 7/21. To check
the status of your order, please visit: <www.apple.com/OrderStatus>.
Since the Carrying Case and Remote are not included in the new 40GB
iPod package, we have added the following products to your order,
at no additional cost. They may ship separately, and will ship on
or before 7/23.
M9129G/A - IPOD CARRYING CASE
M9128G/A - IPOD REMOTE AND EARPHONES
If your order included unshipped iPod accessories that are not
compatible with the new generation iPod, we removed these items from
your order. For accessories that already shipped, we have credited
your order for the amount charged.
If you paid with a credit card or an Apple Loan, the credit to your
account should be processed within the next five business days. Once
the credit is sent to your account, it will be posted according to the
issuing banks procedures. If you paid via cashiers check, money order,
or wire transfer, a refund check will be mailed to you upon shipment
of the remaining items on your order.
Thank you for choosing Apple!
The Apple Store
To Our Valued Apple Customer:
Thank you for your recent order for an iPod.
Apple is thrilled to announce an exciting new generation of iPods! Your
order has been automatically upgraded to the new generation 40GB iPod,
at no additional cost. Your order will ship on or before 7/21. To check
the status of your order, please visit: <www.apple.com/OrderStatus>.
Since the Carrying Case and Remote are not included in the new 40GB
iPod package, we have added the following products to your order,
at no additional cost. They may ship separately, and will ship on
or before 7/23.
M9129G/A - IPOD CARRYING CASE
M9128G/A - IPOD REMOTE AND EARPHONES
If your order included unshipped iPod accessories that are not
compatible with the new generation iPod, we removed these items from
your order. For accessories that already shipped, we have credited
your order for the amount charged.
If you paid with a credit card or an Apple Loan, the credit to your
account should be processed within the next five business days. Once
the credit is sent to your account, it will be posted according to the
issuing banks procedures. If you paid via cashiers check, money order,
or wire transfer, a refund check will be mailed to you upon shipment
of the remaining items on your order.
Thank you for choosing Apple!
The Apple Store
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macrumors Penryn
Australians shouldn'd fret about their pricing. Their pricing isn't that bad, actually, If you go to the Canadian website, it looks like the Aussie pricing is more, but prices listed in Oz include sales tax, whereas Canadian prices don't. Also, the exchange rate is about 5% different, so after the educational discount, Canadians pay a few dollars more than Canucks do for the 20GB iPod after edu discount.
At least we're not from the UK. 😉
QUESTION: Since they removed the buttons from the 3G iPod, couldn't they have used a smaller click wheel (ie: the same sized click wheel as on the mini iPod) and made the entire unit smaller? They're saving space in the iPod by not using the buttons, so.....
Or better yet, couldn't they have used the additional space for a bigger battery?
At least we're not from the UK. 😉
QUESTION: Since they removed the buttons from the 3G iPod, couldn't they have used a smaller click wheel (ie: the same sized click wheel as on the mini iPod) and made the entire unit smaller? They're saving space in the iPod by not using the buttons, so.....
Or better yet, couldn't they have used the additional space for a bigger battery?