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Apple Releases 4th Gen iPod

Apple Loan as Payment?

I'm on the Order placing Page at Apple.Com and there doesn't seem to be any place to enter your loan account number???

am i missing something here?
 
On the features list, it says "Jog without fear — 25 minutes of skip protection"

Is this an improvement or the same as before?
 
machan said:
new ipod software for everyone, so quit bitching.

http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/
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And as I am sure you also read, included in this Software Update is:


iPod Software 3.0 -- Click Wheel iPod

iPod Software 1.1 -- iPod mini

iPod Software 2.2 -- iPod with dock connector

iPod Software 1.4 -- Touch Wheel iPod, Scroll Wheel iPod


Hence, the new software is only for new iPods. Frankly, I think 3G (I mean, "iPod with dock connector") owners should quit their whining, simply because I am a 2G owner (I mean, Touch Wheel iPod) who has been shut out for over a year -- and there are TONS more differences between 1.4 and 2.2 than between 2.2 and 3.0! 🙂
 
Oh man, the iPod 3.0 software won't work on 3G iPods.

From the readme:

NOTE: iPod Updater 2004-07-15 contains the same software versions as iPod Updater 2004-04-28 for all other iPod models.

NOTE: iPod 3.0 Software is not compatible with other models of iPod, including original scroll wheel and touch wheel iPods, and iPod mini.

NOTE: iPod Software 2.2 and iPod Software 1.2 should not be used with iPod with Click Wheel

...

That sucks. The most important feature I wanted was the battery managemant. 😡

The easier navigation would of been nice, too.
 
Does anyone know if the Menu/Play and Pause buttons glow in the dark? I didnt see a dark picture of the new iPods on Apple's website. Also, and are the new iPods going to be in stores today?
 
Apple Store in San Francisco

"Instant gratification available at an Apple retail store"

So they are available at Apple retail store today right?

Do you think I can get one right away if I go down to AP in San Francisco at 10AM today??
 
jackc said:
On the features list, it says "Jog without fear — 25 minutes of skip protection"

Is this an improvement or the same as before?
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It use to be 20 minutes. I have gone longer without skipping. It all depends where you have the iPod on you when you jog. The iPod tends to skip (after 20min, usually right around 20min) if it's in front of you, but if you put it on your hip or on your back (right in middle, align with you spinal cord), then you could go over an hour. I guess if iPod shakes like crazy, then it skips after 20min.
 
picklescott said:
20 gig:
Earbud headphones, AC adapter, FireWire cable, USB 2.0 cable, 4-pin-to-6-pin FireWire adapter

40 gig:
Earbud headphones, dock, remote, carrying case, AC adapter, FireWire cable, USB 2.0 cable, 4-pin-to-6-pin FireWire adapter

(from apple.com/ipod/specs.html)



20 gig:
Apple Earphones, AC Adapter, FireWire cable, USB 2.0 cable

40 gig:
Apple Earphones, AC Adapter, FireWire cable, USB 2.0 cable, iPod Dock

(from apple.com/store)


*is confused*
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Exactly. Now I am confused as well. I just looked at the store, but you are right, the Spec page says something different. 😕
 
aafuss1 said:
Amazing- the clickwheel has the beautiful brushed metal look of Panther, the displays , and PB's.
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Does it? On Apple's pages it looks like it could be a simple gray. When someone gets one in hand, can they clarify?
 
macridah said:
It use to be 20 minutes. I have gone longer without skipping. It all depends where you have the iPod on you when you jog. The iPod tends to skip (after 20min, usually right around 20min) if it's in front of you, but if you put it on your hip or on your back (right in middle, align with you spinal cord), then you could go over an hour. I guess if iPod shakes like crazy, then it skips after 20min.
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If I ran for more than 20 minutes I'd probably pass out and wouldn't notice anyhow... 😀
 
oingoboingo said:
I don't own an iPod, so please enlighten me. Apple is claiming amongst the list of improvements to the 4G iPod that a song shuffle feature has been added .... what is new and improved about this one?
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Yes, they all iPods have shuffle, but i think this new version is like party mix in iTunes (i.e. you can see upcoming songs). Also the big news is you can now sync AND charge with USB 2.0 - This should make it easier for those with PCs, plus both firewire and 2.0 cables are included. 😛
 
iPod + AirTunes

Could someone please explain why this is a good idea?

The design of the iPod (capacity + portability) makes a feature like this seem pointless.

The idea of AirTunes was to enable people to stream music from their desktop system to their stereo system somewhere else in the house. Your iTunes library is then no longer stuck on your computer in the office.

Why on earth would I want to...

1) stream music from my iPod to my stereo when I can just take my iPod to the stereo and plug it in?

2) stream music to my iPod, when i can fit all of my music on it already?

And on top of that... adding WiFi to the iPod will drain the battery rather quickly.

Doesn't make any sense to me!?
 
mjtomlin said:
Could someone please explain why this is a good idea?

The design of the iPod (capacity + portability) makes a feature like this seem pointless.

The idea of AirTunes was to enable people to stream music from their desktop system to their stereo system somewhere else in the house. Your iTunes library is then no longer stuck on your computer in the office.

Why on earth would I want to...

1) stream music from my iPod to my stereo when I can just take my iPod to the stereo and plug it in?

2) stream music to my iPod, when i can fit all of my music on it already?

And on top of that... adding WiFi to the iPod will drain the battery rather quickly.

Doesn't make any sense to me!?
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Because then you can sit on your couch and have a $400 remote control for your stereo 😛
 
Apple I love you!

I ordered the 3G 15GB last week (with a Powerbook) hoping to take advantage of the Cram and Jam promotion. Powerbook shipped yesterday and the iPod was scheduled for later this week. Got a lovely email this morning from Apple saying they've cancelled my iPod order, will be replacing it with a 4G 20GB model and are moving the shipping forward to tomorrow.

I used to dread Mondays!

...and at no additional cost
 
I just called the apple store to check and they confirmed the only difference in the dock is the addition of USB 2.0 support for charging and that it is a tiny bit smaller to hold the new iPod BUT the old docks will work just fineyou just can't take advantage of the new "features"
 
Stella said:
@Trekkie...

RIAA are a load of crying babies (as we all know)... you don't come across many organisations that cry so much... i'm surprised they aren't getting upset about MiniDiscs... you *have* to copy music to use miniDiscs..
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That's why blank Mini-Discs cost so much. You're paying the RIAA 'tax' because you steal if you use Mini-Disc.
 
Can anyone confirm if the new 40 Go iPod comes with the remote and carrying case like the 3rd Gen or not...
If there is no remote and case, stop advertising they are cheaper !
 
My only complaint...well...not even a complaint...my only cause for hesitation in lusting after an ipod...is that i can't record.

but i don't think that the reasson has muchh to do with the riaa

wouldnt encoding DESTROY battery life... becuase i assume it would have to compress the audio files (lossless of course, but still)

it would also be an extra jack to be fit in, although i think that is less the concern...


the thing is...i could use it as a hard drive...i can carry my library around with me...but i cant record..if it had tha, i wouldnt be able to control myself. i would HAVE to own an ipod.

but as it is...i am stuck thinking about why they havent added it. and o yea, you can transfer songs without the dock, doesnt the 20 gig come with 3 friggin cables...thereby covering all ossible bases in terms of data transfer...usb 2.0. firewire 4-4 AND 4-6

the main reasson i want a line in for an ipod though..i DON'T want to buy a minidisk recorder. i have always thought they were ok, but i actually read their spec, and the notion of atrac angers me. and converting files to atrac...not a fast and efficient process..and it isnt like you would really choose to play your atrac files on computer...what about the stuff you buy from itunes 🙂 and other stuff ou simply GET in mp3 or aac...silly sony.

an adapter for the ipod maybe? i want a reason to buy ..REALLY...help me out here...i am getting a decent check and i want a new hard drive...and well...the ipod technically IS a hard drive...
 
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