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I hear ya

Sell the Early 2009 iMac on Craigslist and grab a new one. They're pretty easy to sell and you get most of your money back. You just happen to be past the cut off line for supported drivers. Not sure if you think you're going to get better support on an Asus or HP, other than the fact that you won't have a problem running Windows on them. My experience with HP, Dell, Asus, Lenovo, etc. has not been one of great after sale support for drivers and what not.

Thanks for your idea. Yeah, that is a thought that I have had and is a possibility next year if they put LightPeak on the iMac. I guess it's just frustration that when I bought the thing iMac RAM capacity was upgraded to 8 GB and Apple knows you can't use that with 32 bit. At the time many of us were running Windows 7 Beta which had been out for 7 months and the RTM was 3 months later. Despite the beta being out for a year, Apple then took a really long time (4 months I think?) to release Windows 7 Boot Camp software. When they did, they only supported Boot Camp 64 bit in the late 2009 iMac, but not mine which clearly needs it because of the RAM capacity. They sell a lot of Macs because you can run Windows in BC or a VM and I just feel like they didn't care about some of their customers. They sold 3 or 4 million of my version machine. I know mine is a minor deal and I am just griping, but on my personal level their products just don't meet what I want to do.

Another annoying example is I would like to get an Apple TV, but in order for that to access our iTunes content on the computer upstairs, someone has to log on and start iTunes because it doesn't run that as a service. That is ridiculous! My wife would hit me with something if tried to explain that to her. "It just works" my a--! With media content on Windows that is not necessary and it works great. Also, Microsoft support the DLNA protocol and Apple does not, which is just annoying. Throw in the fact that they still don't support Blu-Ray and it really makes me just want to get a PC instead. Just griping...
 
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Well if its says XP and Vista with no mention of 7 dont be disappointed then.
Perhaps they left it out for a reason at this point.
However, I have heard of mainly people successfully installing BootCamp drivers & Win7 on their Macs with little to no problems.

I dont really see how going to a whole completely separate OS and manufacture will really change the overall experience theyre totally completely different types of companies who dont make every little specific drive themselves either and when an update comes out it may or may not be the best or working and theyre support quality isnt really praised or highlighted.

Apple doesnt make Windows machines, but they offer what they can with it...and they do a pretty decent job for the basics they intended. BUt again i dont use windows. so maybe this was all moot.

Good points and thanks for replying. For me, I've always loved Macs, but have to be able to use Windows for work at home. Being able to run it in a VM or on Boot Camp was a big selling point for me an many other people. It's just Apple's lackluster support for it is disappointing. I don't think they focus enough on OS X even. Seems like they are spread too thin.

My sour grapes goes back to the initial Boot Camp for Windows 7. They did include my machine, but only with 32 bit architecture which means you are capped at 4 GB of RAM, when my machine holds 8 GB of RAM from Apple. They just didn't feel like creating the drivers. I have it working mostly fine in Windows 7 64 bit using MSFT drivers, but the keyboard buttons don't work. I also can't choose the boot option from either OS. Not earth shattering issues, but it is annoying that they chose not to create the 64 bit drivers for Windows Vista or 7 on my iMac. There was a thread on that issue here at the time of the original BC for Win 7 release with a lot of other annoyed people. See my response to the other post for the other reasons I may switch back. I'm not doing anything until next Spring.

Cheers!
 
Finally!

I can confirm that this update does fix the Keyboard Light issue in Win7 x64 bit.

Now when i turn down the light to off, the light turns off.

uMBP 17 mid 2009.
 
I installed Boot Camp 3.2 on my Late 2009 iMac running Win7 x64 Pro and now aero glass doesn't work. Also my magic trackpad is not responsive in Boot Camp Windows, then again it hasn't worked in Boot Camp since Day 1.
 
I installed Boot Camp 3.2 on my Late 2009 iMac running Win7 x64 Pro and now aero glass doesn't work. Also my magic trackpad is not responsive in Boot Camp Windows, then again it hasn't worked in Boot Camp since Day 1.


For Aero Glass thing you can try to install separate nVidia drivers from nVidia website. Should do it (also you have to activate it in control panel).
 
Finally!

I can confirm that this update does fix the Keyboard Light issue in Win7 x64 bit.

Now when i turn down the light to off, the light turns off.

uMBP 17 mid 2009.

Wow that's really nice to know; was one of the most annoying things about running bc on MBP. Don't suppose they found a way to address timezone issues with restarting into OS X?
 
I can't install any Apple drivers or Boot Camp software on my Windows 7 Boot Camp which is 64 bit. Despite the fact that I spent $3,000 on a top of the line iMac with 8 GB of RAM they only support 32 bit Windows on my machine. So much for:

It runs Windows, too.
Have a Windows application you need to use once in a while? No problem. Every new Mac lets you install Windows XP and Vista and run them at native speeds, using a built-in utility called Boot Camp.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/compatibility/

When I bought the iMac I was planning on running Windows apps at their "native speed" with the full 8 GB of RAM available. Apple's decision to simply ignore 64 bit for Windows 7 on my machine which came out the same year leads me to wonder why I put up with this company. They dump X Serve at the drop of a hat with no virtualization (VMware, Hyper-V) support plan, leaving many IT professionals who like Macs out in the cold and a laughing stock at their office. The preview of Lion was disappointing, I hope they are doing a lot more with the OS and the core apps which need a makeover.

A disappointed customer I am.

I think my next computer may come from HP or Asus. Just not sure why I should by Apple again. My mind may change, but feeling pretty doubtful now.

Why do you need boot camp? Just use VirtualBox.
 
I can't install any Apple drivers or Boot Camp software on my Windows 7 Boot Camp which is 64 bit. Despite the fact that I spent $3,000 on a top of the line iMac with 8 GB of RAM they only support 32 bit Windows on my machine. So much for:

It runs Windows, too.
Have a Windows application you need to use once in a while? No problem. Every new Mac lets you install Windows XP and Vista and run them at native speeds, using a built-in utility called Boot Camp.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/compatibility/

When I bought the iMac I was planning on running Windows apps at their "native speed" with the full 8 GB of RAM available. Apple's decision to simply ignore 64 bit for Windows 7 on my machine which came out the same year leads me to wonder why I put up with this company. They dump X Serve at the drop of a hat with no virtualization (VMware, Hyper-V) support plan, leaving many IT professionals who like Macs out in the cold and a laughing stock at their office. The preview of Lion was disappointing, I hope they are doing a lot more with the OS and the core apps which need a makeover.

A disappointed customer I am.

I think my next computer may come from HP or Asus. Just not sure why I should by Apple again. My mind may change, but feeling pretty doubtful now.


Hmm. I installed Windows 7 64bit drivers on my Macbook Pro vintage 2007.

Just because the main 64 bit installer won't run does not mean that the drivers won't. All I had to do was to drill down into the bootcamp driver packages and install them separately.

You might want to have a read of this thread.
 
I can't install any Apple drivers or Boot Camp software on my Windows 7 Boot Camp which is 64 bit. Despite the fact that I spent $3,000 on a top of the line iMac with 8 GB of RAM they only support 32 bit Windows on my machine. So much for:

It runs Windows, too.
Have a Windows application you need to use once in a while? No problem. Every new Mac lets you install Windows XP and Vista and run them at native speeds, using a built-in utility called Boot Camp.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/compatibility/

When I bought the iMac I was planning on running Windows apps at their "native speed" with the full 8 GB of RAM available. Apple's decision to simply ignore 64 bit for Windows 7 on my machine which came out the same year leads me to wonder why I put up with this company. They dump X Serve at the drop of a hat with no virtualization (VMware, Hyper-V) support plan, leaving many IT professionals who like Macs out in the cold and a laughing stock at their office. The preview of Lion was disappointing, I hope they are doing a lot more with the OS and the core apps which need a makeover.

A disappointed customer I am.

I think my next computer may come from HP or Asus. Just not sure why I should by Apple again. My mind may change, but feeling pretty doubtful now.

I'm using an older, bottom of the range iMac (2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo iMac, the first model after the switch to aluminium). Anyway, I'm running Win 7 64-bit on boot camp, no problems. I use it as a dev box.

I seem to remember I had to modify the installer slightly to get it working. Luckily, I'm an IT professional, so I Googled it and found the process quite simple.

BTW, as an IT professional who uses Macs in otherwise Windows only office, I find that people aren't laughing at me because Apple are dropping Xserve. Strange. In fact, the people I'm working with right now aew looking at getting an 8 core MacPro as a virtualization server...
 
How about trackpad/multitouch, does it still suck? :/

This was always my problem, on my 2008 MBP. I couldn't get it to two-finger-right click or scroll properly. When Apple updated the track pad drivers, my laptop wasn't supported, so I don't know if they ever fixed it :(

It also ran hot in boot camp, but not as hot as VMWare/Parallels.

And it didn't resume from sleep mode very well, but that could have been XP.

I've been wondering what Windows 7 on my shiny new MBA would be like, but luckily I don't have an external super drive :)
 
I'm using an older, bottom of the range iMac (2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo iMac, the first model after the switch to aluminium). Anyway, I'm running Win 7 64-bit on boot camp, no problems. I use it as a dev box.

I seem to remember I had to modify the installer slightly to get it working. Luckily, I'm an IT professional, so I Googled it and found the process quite simple.

BTW, as an IT professional who uses Macs in otherwise Windows only office, I find that people aren't laughing at me because Apple are dropping Xserve. Strange. In fact, the people I'm working with right now aew looking at getting an 8 core MacPro as a virtualization server...

I tried tweaking it same and got the installation to work fine, but twice one of the drivers permanently blue-screens Windows 7 on my machine.

Glad to hear you are having a good experience with the Xserve, I would imagine that is not the case for most. If they would just support OS X Server on VMware, then all problems would be gone. Every medium to large org is using VMware anyway. Smaller orgs can run Mac Minis and Mac Pros with single point of failure.
 
Hmm. I installed Windows 7 64bit drivers on my Macbook Pro vintage 2007.

Just because the main 64 bit installer won't run does not mean that the drivers won't. All I had to do was to drill down into the bootcamp driver packages and install them separately.

You might want to have a read of this thread.

On spot link, thanks! I think post in that thread are the same as my experience. With the original Leopard OS 10.5 disc that came with my iMac the Boot Camp drivers worked for 64 bit Windows 7. Then I wiped my whole machine with Snow Leopard, then using that disc for Boot Camp with 64 bit Windows I got multiple blue screens and the subsequent Boot Camp update did the same thing. I have done the manual installation of the drivers with other Macs at work, a Mac Pro and a Macbook Pro, with success. However on my iMac I would still get the corruption. Just one or two particular drivers causing the problem. I got the exact same messages that are in that thread. I could have spent a few hours or whole day fixing the issue, but to be honest I just don't feel like spending that much time on it.

I'll see if OS Lion changes my feelings about Apple and OS X. I'm a computer geek and worry that too many resources have been taken away from the Mac OS to work on the iOS and the Mac suffers. This BC issue is probably the most minor of other issues I have with OS X --not technical problems, but functionality and interface. Leopard was a fantastic upgrade of the system, but too much has been left aside the last few years and it suffers in my view. I hate the idea of giving it up, but...
 
Anyone tried this on the 2010 MBA? Mine is currently working rather well and I'm worried this update will break more than it fixes!
 
For Aero Glass thing you can try to install separate nVidia drivers from nVidia website. Should do it (also you have to activate it in control panel).

Thanks I have the ATI 4850 video card and tried to reinstall the drivers from ATI. That didn't work so I thought might as well d/l the 64-bit boot camp update direct from Apple and reinstall, that seemed to have fixed it.

BTW if anyone can help me get my Magic Trackpad working in Boot Camp I would be great full.
 
I tried tweaking it same and got the installation to work fine, but twice one of the drivers permanently blue-screens Windows 7 on my machine.

Glad to hear you are having a good experience with the Xserve, I would imagine that is not the case for most. If they would just support OS X Server on VMware, then all problems would be gone. Every medium to large org is using VMware anyway. Smaller orgs can run Mac Minis and Mac Pros with single point of failure.

I couldn't agree more about VMWare/hypervisor support, that would make a lot of sense. I guess they don't want people running virtual OS X desktops on their workstations...

As it happens, I don't use OS X Server for anything, though we did give it a good shot. Now I use Linux (Ubuntu Server version) when I can, and Windows Server when I have to (for ASP.NET and SQL Server).

Disappointing about the blue screen. You should be able to get some clues about the source of the problem from the text (most likely will be display or audio). You could try downloading the generic ATI/Nvidia drivers and use those instead. Appreciate it's not what you want to spend time doing, but the iMacs do make great systems for running Windows once you get them working :)
 
...Disappointing about the blue screen. You should be able to get some clues about the source of the problem from the text (most likely will be display or audio). You could try downloading the generic ATI/Nvidia drivers and use those instead. Appreciate it's not what you want to spend time doing, but the iMacs do make great systems for running Windows once you get them working :)
I think it was display driver which was installed with the whole Apple BC suite. Just doing Windows install without the Apple software on it works very well with everything, Windows even finds driver updates periodically. The only thing I am missing is the keyboard controls and software controlling the boot option. I'll just have to tough it out ;)

Cheers!
 
BootCamp 3.2 installer needs Windows installer version 4.5

I am running Boot Camp 3.1 (at least that's what it says when I right-click the Boot Camp icon on the Win 7 taskbar). I go to the Apple Software Updates and it finds the Boot Camp 3.2 update. I select it and click Install. It downloads the 200+ MB file and appears as if it installls. At the end, I am told to reboot Win 7 to complete the installation. I select Restart. The Win 7 machine restarts with no problems. Everything comes up fine. I get my desktop and there is no "Installation Complete" type message or anything. (I'm not sure if there should be, but in my case there is not.)

The weird thing (and the source of my question) is that if I now right-click on the Boot Camp icon it still says that I have version 3.1.

So on one hand it appears that the download/install goes fine, but on the other hand, when it's done it appears I still have the old version.

And...if I run Apple Software Update again, I am still offered the 3.2 Update. Therefore, I have to believe that the upgrade did not actually do anything, although I never received an error and it appears that the update completed.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks.

Bill

Probably, the first restart installed the Windows installer version 4.5. BootCamp 3.2 has not yet been set up properly for your Mac, I guess.
 
I am running Boot Camp 3.1 (at least that's what it says when I right-click the Boot Camp icon on the Win 7 taskbar). I go to the Apple Software Updates and it finds the Boot Camp 3.2 update. I select it and click Install. It downloads the 200+ MB file and appears as if it installls. At the end, I am told to reboot Win 7 to complete the installation. I select Restart. The Win 7 machine restarts with no problems. Everything comes up fine. I get my desktop and there is no "Installation Complete" type message or anything. (I'm not sure if there should be, but in my case there is not.)

The weird thing (and the source of my question) is that if I now right-click on the Boot Camp icon it still says that I have version 3.1.

So on one hand it appears that the download/install goes fine, but on the other hand, when it's done it appears I still have the old version.

And...if I run Apple Software Update again, I am still offered the 3.2 Update. Therefore, I have to believe that the upgrade did not actually do anything, although I never received an error and it appears that the update completed.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks.

Bill

Prior to the update, if you were already at 3.1, then this is what probably happened:

There was a bug in 3.1 where if you ran Software Update, 3.1 would always show up in the Software Update as an available updates, even though 3.1 was already installed on your computer. Were you paying close attention to what you clicked on when 3.2 was shown as available? When 3.2 became available, Software Update listed both 3.1 and 3.2 as available updates. So if you, in a hurry, just clicked on install, then it would have installed 3.1 again. Try this: Run Software Update again, pay close attention, if 3.1 is offered, deselect it, and only select 3.2. Install 3.2. Please post back here and let us know if this works.
 
Prior to the update, if you were already at 3.1, then this is what probably happened:

There was a bug in 3.1 where if you ran Software Update, 3.1 would always show up in the Software Update as an available updates, even though 3.1 was already installed on your computer. Were you paying close attention to what you clicked on when 3.2 was shown as available? When 3.2 became available, Software Update listed both 3.1 and 3.2 as available updates. So if you, in a hurry, just clicked on install, then it would have installed 3.1 again. Try this: Run Software Update again, pay close attention, if 3.1 is offered, deselect it, and only select 3.2. Install 3.2. Please post back here and let us know if this works.

No it was definitely 3.2. See attached screen grab. Not sure why it's not working. I appreciate your input and welcome any other ideas.

Bill

Update: Prior to my original post, I must have tried this Update at least three times. Tried it by using the Apple Software Update. Tried downloading the file from Apple directly. All with no success. Just for the heck of it, I now decided to try it again and for some unknown reason, it worked! I am now running 3.2. I swear I did nothing different, but for some reason it "took" this time. Weird.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for all the help!
 

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Does your update stop PPT?

After installing Boot Camp 3.2, my Powerpoint crashes repeatedly (running Win 7). Essentially, I can no longer use Powerpoint in Windows 7 on my MBP (2010), as every time I try to type anything, it crashes.

Anyone else had the same problem?

Thanks.
 
Same here but no luck so far

No it was definitely 3.2. See attached screen grab. Not sure why it's not working. I appreciate your input and welcome any other ideas.

Bill

Update: Prior to my original post, I must have tried this Update at least three times. Tried it by using the Apple Software Update. Tried downloading the file from Apple directly. All with no success. Just for the heck of it, I now decided to try it again and for some unknown reason, it worked! I am now running 3.2. I swear I did nothing different, but for some reason it "took" this time. Weird.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for all the help!

I just did a clean install of W7 enterprise on an MBP and the 3.2 update keeps showing up in software update. I tried about 5 times now and it won't install (goes through the motions though). Tried the download version directly from Apple's download page and it wouldn't install either saying it needed some kind of file.

Anyone else having the problem and maybe figured out the solution? I'll keep trying like a monkey, but it's getting stupid.:confused:

Also for my 9600M GT card drivers, is it really better to get the latest from Nvidia (as some here have suggested) or do I need to stick with the ones made for Apple which seem very old? Thanks.

Update: Seems like all it needs is to insert the original Snow Leopard disc, then it installs fine from the downloaded version. I didn't try Apple software update. Why this is necessary only Apple knows, the bunch of f*&%$ing goofs.
 
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