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Apple Releases FaceTime Camera Driver Update for All 2015 MacBooks

Cuban Missles said:
If you download google voice onto your iphone, you can call any phone (including landlines). you can receive phone calls from any phone. You get voicemail.

If you use facetime audio call, you can only call other iDevices. they need to make it so that I can call anyone not just iDevices.

If you use facetime to video call, you can only call other iDevices. Skype lets you call any computer.

Apple needs to allow facetime to reach outside the walled garden.

Hope that explains what I mean.
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Not sure that's going to happy anytime soon. Extending FT and iMessage to any platform other than Apple will open it up to security risks. Especially on Windows and Android devices.
 
Cuban Missles said:
If you download google voice onto your iphone, you can call any phone (including landlines). you can receive phone calls from any phone. You get voicemail.

If you use facetime audio call, you can only call other iDevices. they need to make it so that I can call anyone not just iDevices.

If you use facetime to video call, you can only call other iDevices. Skype lets you call any computer.

Apple needs to allow facetime to reach outside the walled garden.

Hope that explains what I mean.
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It's not that difficult to understand why. Think of the motive... Why has Google and Skype made their solutions available for other platforms? Why hasn't Apple?

Google Voice is free. Like most other Google Service. It collects data about you, your conversations (written), who you call, when, where and from what devices. Google and third parties use this data to serve more relevant ads that are likely to interest you. It is beneficial to penetrate as much of the market as possible, thereby collecting the most data. How do you do this? Give your solution away free to everyone.

Skype has a different business model. They are freemium. They give their service away for free to as many people to drive customer use, with the hope that the free users will eventually become paying users (such as buying credit, use it in their business etc). It is beneficial to make it as accessible as possible, so more users sign up, and eventually convert to paying users. How do you do this? Give your solution away free to everyone.

FaceTime has absolutely no commercial motive. It is a profitless feature Apple has created and put on it's devices to give iOS/Mac users an incredibly easy way to video and audio call over the internet from just an Apple ID. It is there to be another feature of iOS/Mac devices. It is part of a package of software you buy, when you buy an Apple device. What motive does Apple have to spend developer resources and money into software for someone elses ecosystem? Which at the same time erodes their own ecosystems value? None.

Opening FaceTime up to other platforms also creates the possibility of users calling other users that don't actually own any Apple devices. This would then actually be at expense to Apple, because of server use.

Also, on the topic of ringing any phone number... FaceTime is highly encrypted, and is a self-hosted phone call (meaning your device connects directly to the device you're phoning), and the audio/video stream never touches Apple's servers. This is highly secure, working just like iMessage, and is all VoIP. Allowing landline phones to be rang would confuse this message. It would be an insecure, unencrypted, non-VoIP call, that would have to go through Apple's servers and would also charge you. It does not fit the FaceTime branding, or would have the same ease of use.
 
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AbSoluTc said:
Not sure that's going to happy anytime soon. Extending FT and iMessage to any platform other than Apple will open it up to security risks. Especially on Windows and Android devices.
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mazecookie said:
It's not that difficult to understand why. Think of the motive... Why has Google and Skype made their solutions available for other platforms? Why hasn't Apple?

Google Voice is free. Like most other Google Service. It collects data about you, your conversations (written), who you call, when, where and from what devices. Google and third parties use this data to serve more relevant ads that are likely to interest you. It is beneficial to penetrate as much of the market as possible, thereby collecting the most data. How do you do this? Give your solution away free to everyone.

Skype has a different business model. They are freemium. They give their service away for free to as many people to drive customer use, with the hope that the free users will eventually become paying users (such as buying credit, use it in their business etc). It is beneficial to make it as accessible as possible, so more users sign up, and eventually convert to paying users. How do you do this? Give your solution away free to everyone.

FaceTime has absolutely no commercial motive. It is a profitless feature Apple has created and put on it's devices to give iOS/Mac users an incredibly easy way to video and audio call over the internet from just an Apple ID. It is there to be another feature of iOS/Mac devices. It is part of a package of software you buy, when you buy an Apple device. What motive does Apple have to spend developer resources and money into software for someone elses ecosystem? Which at the same time erodes their own ecosystems value? None.

Opening FaceTime up to other platforms also creates the possibility of users calling other users that don't actually own any Apple devices. This would then actually be at expense to Apple, because of server use.

Also, on the topic of ringing any phone number... FaceTime is highly encrypted, and is a self-hosted phone call (meaning your device connects directly to the device you're phoning), and the audio/video stream never touches Apple's servers. This is highly secure, working just like iMessage, and is all VoIP. Allowing landline phones to be rang would confuse this message. It would be an insecure, unencrypted, non-VoIP call, that would have to go through Apple's servers and would also charge you. It does not fit the FaceTime branding, or would have the same ease of use.
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No that's not what I am saying. You do not need to put FT or iM on any other platform. I want to use facetime Audio to call a land phone. Apple could do this without any security risk and even without deploying to windows or Android.
 
Cuban Missles said:
No that's not what I am saying. You do not need to put FT or iM on any other platform. I want to use facetime Audio to call a land phone. Apple could do this without any security risk and even without deploying to windows or Android.
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Read the above post. It's encrypted both ways and voice alone, there would be nothing on the other end to decrypt it or connect to. No "computer/phone". You can't just ring a land line without breaking encryption.
 
this article states Facetime camera compatibility with Windows.. what Facetime compatibility with windows? I didn't know you could Facetime with a windows machine
 
huggyb said:
this article states Facetime camera compatibility with Windows.. what Facetime compatibility with windows? I didn't know you could Facetime with a windows machine
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You can't. It allows a MBP with bootcamp, better use of the FT camera. IE a web cam.
 
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Cuban Missles said:
If you download google voice onto your iphone, you can call any phone (including landlines). you can receive phone calls from any phone. You get voicemail.

If you use facetime audio call, you can only call other iDevices. they need to make it so that I can call anyone not just iDevices.

If you use facetime to video call, you can only call other iDevices. Skype lets you call any computer.

Apple needs to allow facetime to reach outside the walled garden.

Hope that explains what I mean.
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Get it now....thanks mate

I'm used to ft audio because people around me use it. So, I would not know as such :/

But thanks for explaining it. Gonna test it out
 
Interesting. Neither this, nor the recent firmware update, are showing up in the App Store for my rMBP 15", which was purchased last weekend.
 
FaceTime is really helpful to those who have relatives away from them. Or can easily call a friend when you need something or just a chitchat to use your spare time. This kind of apps are to be downloaded and installed to your MacBooks to experience the latest upgrades of Mac.
 
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