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Apple Releases First Public Beta of iOS 16.4 and iPadOS 16.4 With New Emoji, Safari Web Push Notifications, HomeKit Update and More
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Literally came out yesterday for dev profile.
Yes because 24 hours is enough time to determine no battery improvements based on one persons experience from the interwebs.
This is pretty coolYou don't need to worry about that, it will allow you to chose the public beta in settings under software update.
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I wasn't talking about battery improvements, just casual usage in the first days usage. If something drains a battery because of some change in defaults of settings or an app I regularly use I would notice a much quicker drain of the battery. Yes that has occurred before when testing betas.
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I didn't get any prompt to change/update anything with 16.4 installed.
Apple release an update that causes severe enough issues for them to withdraw it, with no workaround or rollback option for those affected, and then take almost two months to issue a fix which initial impressions suggest doesn't work? I'd say his statement is pretty much justified. Do you think Apple's response would have been the same for something like iCloud or Apple Music?
It's beta software folks. Hold off on the complaining until 16.4 is released...
HomePod minis have been stuck configuring (despite multiple resets) since the upgrade to the first pulled architecture. Does anyone know if getting the beta on my iPhone, then resetting HomePods will fix? Will i need HomePod beta as well? Has anyone done this?
Interesting. That would seem to imply Apple thinks the architecture update was fine, but maybe the software that interacts with it wasn’t?
Has broken my internet data, wifi and cellular are now borked. Tried rebooting, resetting network data etc etc.
Completely broken. Will have to roll back to my backup tomorrow when I have some time.
Completely broken. Will have to roll back to my backup tomorrow when I have some time.
iOS 16.2 WAS released and it wasn’t a beta, and apple in the meantime released 16.3 and other minor versions without addressing the issues. The complaints are more than justified.
I also didn’t get any prompt to update the architecture but the problems I had aren’t fixed. This is ridiculous, apple really needs to pull itself together, the situation is really getting out of control: boring hardware, buggy software, uninspired services. This is really going to cost them users at this rate.
The only idiotic thing I see is justifying apple no matter how badly it behaves or performs. This is an embarrassment to a company that once valued customer experience, polished software and things that ‘just work’. Now we have disappointed customers, buggy software and things that are broken for months and don’t work even with the help of customer support. Pathetic.
Everyone’s mileage varies. HomeKit has worked flawlessly for me and all the people I talk to IRL. It’s when I come to these forums I hear all the whining, gloom & doom, and rose-colored glass memories of the good old days of yore when everything Apple did was glorious and flawless (it never was).
You see, the thing with bugs is that it doesn’t matter that a lot of people don’t experience them, a software company has a huge problem even if just 1% of the customers experience a big. With apple’s numbers even 0.1% means an awful lot of disgruntled customers. It’s the same with cars, when you make millions of something your failure rate has to be one in a million or less (that’s what all the talk about six sigma is about). Apple was never perfect, but it had never been in such disarray as it is today. It’s no surprise the stock took a hit, and I won’t be surprised if it keeps going down unless they find their way again.
They didn't, this is a beta.
A beta is an early version of the next release. It starts with the last release and they enable or include new features they've developed so they can test them and fix them. It goes through many iterations of this at any software development company.
There probably are also many release trains, so updates to this feature or that feature are not in the public beta because they are simply not stable yet. This is why we see late features emerge through the beta process.
Otherwise, why does everyone think there are multiple betas?
I know this is just a summary post to go along with the video and that their is another post with more descriptions of whats new, but neither one is complete. What're they even doing, there are quite a few shortcut cut changes. not just 3 or whtvr they said. There are 7 and it's not even difficult to find them. Apple has a release note site specifically for the Shortcuts app. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213544
Have you had the chance to install the 16.4 betas onto your other devices yet if you have them? Maybe you need it on all your devices that can potentially interact with HomeKit. For example AppleTV’s and/or or iPad’s that are designated as a current or potential home hub. Just a thought.
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we shall see. HomeKit has been broken for more than two months and three stable, non beta, versions have been released since. Even before the new architecture it has always been quite buggy and unstable and countless ‘stable’ non beta versions have been shipped with it.
Yeah, that's what I meant when I said all my HK hubs were updated - iPad, HomePod mini, 4 x Apple TVs... all on 16.4.
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