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Apple today released the first beta of macOS Ventura 13.4 to its public beta testing group, allowing the general public to try out the software ahead of its official launch. The macOS Ventura 13.4 public beta comes two days after Apple provided the software to developers.

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Public beta testers can download the macOS 13.4 Ventura update from the Software Update section of the System Preferences app after installing the proper profile from Apple's beta software website.

There is no word as of yet on what's included in macOS Ventura 13.4, and no notable new features were found in the developer beta.

Work on macOS Ventura is winding down as Apple prepares to shift its focus to macOS 14, the as-of-yet-unnamed next-generation version of macOS that we expect to see introduced this June at WWDC.

Article Link: Apple Releases First Public Beta of macOS Ventura 13.4
 
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MacOS 13.4 beta 1
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  • System Firmware Version: 8422.100.650 (M1 based Macs)
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    Workaround: To install other updates including future macOS Beta Updates, click “More info…” in Software Update Settings, uncheck Apple Studio Display firmware update, and click “Install Now.”
 
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Hopefully it's 100% all bug fixes and stability improvements. Make what features already exist work perfectly and reliably.
Pretty much that, there are some things mentioned in the news topics, but not that much. Of course HomeKit continues to be worked on across the OS’s. One observation is that 13.3 is just as optimized as the 13.4 beta 1.
 
It's remarkable how every yearly MacOS release just achieves status 'stable' to use after 12 months and you get FOMO and the next release is already imminent. Please return to the Snow Leopard releases. Take your time introducing great worked out features and polishing the following next year. Stagemanager and many bug introduced features is results of this bad quality releases every year.

Things get rushed...
 
It's remarkable how every yearly MacOS release just achieves status 'stable' to use after 12 months and you get FOMO and the next release is already imminent. Please return to the Snow Leopard releases. Take your time introducing great worked out features and polishing the following next year. Stagemanager and many bug introduced features is results of this bad quality releases every year.

Things get rushed...
This has been discussed many times, WWDC is used as a kickoff of Apple‘s annual marketing until next WWDC. It will never return to Snow Leopard days.
 
It's remarkable how every yearly MacOS release just achieves status 'stable' to use after 12 months and you get FOMO and the next release is already imminent. Please return to the Snow Leopard releases. Take your time introducing great worked out features and polishing the following next year. Stagemanager and many bug introduced features is results of this bad quality releases every year.

Things get rushed...
The problem isn't the speed of OS releases. The problem is Apple letting dev teams commit to features that are not yet stable enough to go in. They need to continue to change incentives so teams hold back things which aren't ready.

Sometimes the impact is unavoidable because it affects _every_ team, like say iOS7 or macOS 11 UI changes, or the rewrite of iCloud to support collaboration a few years ago. But that impact could still be reduced.

If we had a major release every three years again like the early 'big cat' days, but teams still shoved broken sh** in, it would be decidedly worse. The reason to go to predictable 'subscription-style' software releases is to have more trains, so people don't feel they HAVE to make this one, they can wait for the one in three or six months.

The problem is that teams within Apple, either themselves or at behest of management, are taking this as a to push for more velocity - eg. more trains leaving the station, but each needs to be full of cargo. It should be an incentive for teams to take an extra six months or year delay to roll out something of much higher quality. I believe this is a well-identified internal struggle at Apple from prior leaks (I believe iOS 12) - more velocity is not sustainable if it increases tech debt.

With that in mind - if hypothetically the only chance for a software team to get a feature shipped before 2026 was to get in into this September 2023 release, the software quality would be a hellscape. Those issues would also include more fundamental design problems with new features, where fixing them in a point release would not be possible.

People who pine for Snow Leopard forget the negative connotations of the release - that the prior release was SO broken, that they had to take over a year just to fix the bugs.
 
The problem isn't the speed of OS releases. The problem is Apple letting dev teams commit to features that are not yet stable enough to go in. They need to continue to change incentives so teams hold back things which aren't ready.
This already occurs, no difference against Big Sur vs Monterey vs Ventura. Such features are disabled from a release If not ready. Such as Universal Console, Stage Manager, and lately HomeKit. Usually they aren’t used by everyone. Also I question features not stable enough in general terms by use with most people, whose to say the internal testing versus expanded dev, public beta testers is not providing a lot of real world feedback/data to analyze system issues and select which Darwin kernel is best to delivery with. There is also the degree of the problem to consider what is the basis, Mac type, software involved etc, etc. IMHO Apple likely has multiple teams examining each OS including older ones as they issue betas.
 
Do not understand all this stupid comments. Ventura is the best macOS I have ever used in the last 15 years. Stable and reliable. I guess that people want just to be cool in complaining and writing childish comments.

Try it. It is really good (as it was from the very early betas).
Stable and reliable also applies to Monterey. Ventura has SMB problems.
 
Stable and reliable also applies to Monterey. Ventura has SMB problems.
Did you first try:
Turning file sharing off, rebooting, then turning file sharing back on?

Another noted this more involved steps:
Once I turned my iMac off, and back on, File Sharing started not working again. That means that I have to turn off File Sharing before turning the computer off, and turn File Sharing on after turning the computer on for File Sharing to work.
 
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It's remarkable how every yearly MacOS release just achieves status 'stable' to use after 12 months and you get FOMO and the next release is already imminent. Please return to the Snow Leopard releases. Take your time introducing great worked out features and polishing the following next year. Stagemanager and many bug introduced features is results of this bad quality releases every year.

Things get rushed...
With PT Barnum, uh, Tim Cook, at the helm you can safely forget to longer release timeframes for macOS.
 
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