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Apple Releases iMacs

Originally posted by Qball
I'll be using Photoshop, burning CD's with iTunes, Chimera, etc., all at once. I seem to always have multiple programs open, which tends to confuse my PC! I'm leaning towards 768Mb of memory.

The memory from MacMall appears to be Viking. Any Viking horror stories? Thanks for all the advice
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I bought my iMac Rev A & my iBook SE both from MacMall with the extra ram they give. I've NEVER had a problem. I just maxed out my ram in my iBook. Now I've got an extra 128 mb chip sitting around the house waiting to be sold on ebay. My advice is just to max out the ram at the beginning.
 
Does anyone know what timezone sales reps are in? I called yesterday and talked to a woman who gave me a little discount as an incentive for switching, but I had to tie up some loose ends and told her I'd call back that night or today. I've left a voice mail and called two or three times, but no luck. She's in until 6:00, whichever timezone that is. I'm assuming Pacific, but I could be wrong. Should I just call someone else?
 
Well, I finally got a new mac. For the last 6 years or so, I've been plugging around with a beige G3 - a good computer, but way too slow for OS X. I was going to get a new iMac, but was VERY disappointed in the revisions. I was looking forward to a low end model with 17-inch screen, 133mhz bus, geforce 4, for $1300 or less. No such luck, so I just bought a new Powermac G4 867 Dual Processor, brand new from my university's bookstore for only $1399, no tax, no shipping, full warranty. I decided this was a MUCH better value than the new iMac. I'll just have to live with a 17-inch CRT monitor for a while until I can afford to replace it with a 17-inch flat panel.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think the low end iMac kinda sucks. Just get a powermac G4.
 
Originally posted by possible switch
Does anyone know what timezone sales reps are in? I called yesterday and talked to a woman who gave me a little discount....
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I know this is a personal question but how much of a discount? I've got a relative who is a penny pincher but wants to switch and this info might just push her over. (She LOVES deals.)

EDIT:Oh and congratulations! Enjoy your mac!
 
Originally posted by anubis
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think the low end iMac kinda sucks. Just get a powermac G4.
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I agree with you that the low-end iMac kind of suck. But it's for people who want the iMac's form factor at a reasonable price, and do not really need a leading-edge machine.
Now about the PowerMac. It is definitely a really good machine (don't listen to those bitter people on the forums), but the thing is, for a home user it CAN be way too noisy. I know that I could afford a dual 1.25 with the 20" screen, but (1) I won't necessarily make use of the extra power, and (2) I don't want to hear the comp's fan all the time. So in my case a nice iMac is good enough for me (but I might buy the high-end one). But at work, no question about it, the PowerMac is the real deal.

NicoMan
 
Originally posted by possible switch
I'm a penny pincher too. It was only like $25 I think, but every little bit helps!
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Agreed. I delayed my ibook's purchase for a couple of weeks after the last update to be able to buy it from the Apple store at the Apple Expo (in London) and get something like a £30 rebate and a T-shirt with the Jaguar logo. Muahahaha.

And congrats with your new iMac. Let us know how it goes. Which one did you get and how much memory did you buy?

NicoMan
 
mmm.. new iMac

Well, I broke down and headed down to Bic Camera this afternoon to pick up a new 1GHz iMac..

This baby is quick.. I think I'll be heading out tomorrow to up the ram to 768 MB, but other than that, it goes in a hurry. I Xbench'd it already, and came out with the top score for any flat-panel iMac yet to be tested.

Only difficulty in setup was the Airport Extreme - it didn't like the way my old Airport base station was set up. I changed my base station's setting to use another channel, and upped the bandwidth to the full 11 Mbps, and everything works fine.

17 inches looks a lot bigger in my house than it ever did at the store.. this screen is enormous!

Now, what to do with the iBook?
 
imac performance

Hey man, don't just talk about Xbench on your new imac... give us the damn numbers, ha!!!
 
15" 800Mhz
512 MB RAM
all that other stuff...

Office v.X for Academic


I wanted a 17", but then I distinguished my wants from my needs and got realistic. This computer should be more than I need and hopefully will get me through law school. :) From everything I've heard about Apple, I shouldn't have half the problems that I do with my laptop. Not a gamer, not a photoeditor, so I think I'm set.

My laptop mysteriously loses its display drivers sometimes, so that's fun to fix. The power button likes to be held down for a minute or so before it'll boot up. If you take the harddrive over 5 GB of used space, the computer clicks and runs hot all the time. Blue screens of death at least 4 times a day. And it's only two years old!!! I think I made the right decision.

It should be here on or before Valentine's Day. What a wonderful gift to myself! :D
 
iMac

I just got a new iMac, the low end. I did bump up the memory to 768mb. I have no problems playing Medal of Honor, or using Photoshop 7, and using Peak 3.0. I had an old G3 desktop, that did alot for me. I would have bought a powermac, but I liked the idea of a compact all in one unit. I have yet to have an blurry problems with the LCS either. Medal of Honor is sweet on this.
 
Re: iMac

Originally posted by concretecurb
I just got a new iMac, the low end. I did bump up the memory to 768mb. I have no problems playing Medal of Honor, or using Photoshop 7, and using Peak 3.0. I had an old G3 desktop, that did alot for me. I would have bought a powermac, but I liked the idea of a compact all in one unit. I have yet to have an blurry problems with the LCS either. Medal of Honor is sweet on this.
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yes, but try manipulating a 200 MB image in photoshop 7 :)
 
Re: imac performance

Originally posted by rebscb
Hey man, don't just talk about Xbench on your new imac... give us the damn numbers, ha!!!
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Okey dokey! The formatting is pretty ugly, so please forgive me. I'm looking to upgrade to 768MB RAM, but the cheapest I've seen a 512 MB PC2100 SO-DIMM for was 19,200 yen (about 160 bucks).. Anyone found cheaper?

Results 87.58
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 256 MB
Model PowerMac6,1
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.3
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 1000 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card GeForce4 MX
Drive Type ST380023A
CPU Test 111.94
GCD Recursion 114.17 4.46 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 104.96 353.82 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 114.31 6.20 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 114.96 5.16 Mops/sec
Thread Test 63.07
Computation 61.95 499.07 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 64.23 806.21 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 87.75
System 79.18
Allocate 117.78 39.71 Kalloc/sec
Fill 88.38 506.82 MB/sec
Copy 55.30 276.49 MB/sec
Stream 98.40
Copy 99.20 433.80 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 101.83 444.27 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 96.66 439.79 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 96.13 422.38 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 98.47
Line 103.00 2.62 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 112.35 7.90 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 117.33 2.70 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 94.76 1.03 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 76.38 1.25 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 117.85
Spinning Squares 117.85 82.47 frames/sec
User Interface Test 71.42
Elements 71.42 24.30 refresh/sec
Disk Test 90.07
Sequential 102.00
Uncached Write 97.13 42.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 101.19 41.17 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 115.02 18.12 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 96.68 41.71 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 80.64
Uncached Write 55.09 0.83 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 87.35 20.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 96.18 0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 104.12 20.41 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 
As a PC switcher I have just ordered a 17" Imac Superdrive as it's called in the UK. Supporting PCs for a living for more years than I care to remember I can't wait to start using OS X. Over here we are used to paying high prices for computers so I feel that £1609 (upped the memory to 512) for the kind of spec that Apple is providing is fine by me, especially as it has dropped £200 from last week with a better processor, DDR memory, better graphics card and faster DVD writing. Maybe some people think that Apple are making too much profit but their last quarter figures tell a different story. Just remember that if Apple ever went belly up, we would all be at the mercy of the friendly people at Microsoft.
 
Originally posted by applebobbing
As a PC switcher I have just ordered a 17" Imac Superdrive as it's called in the UK. Supporting PCs for a living for more years than I care to remember I can't wait to start using OS X. Over here we are used to paying high prices for computers so I feel that £1609 (upped the memory to 512) for the kind of spec that Apple is providing is fine by me, especially as it has dropped £200 from last week with a better processor, DDR memory, better graphics card and faster DVD writing. Maybe some people think that Apple are making too much profit but their last quarter figures tell a different story. Just remember that if Apple ever went belly up, we would all be at the mercy of the friendly people at Microsoft.
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Well said. As a recent switcher (Thursday), I wholeheartedly agree. I think Apple's providing a fair product for a fair price. I went to a beginning OS X class yestereay and have only just begun to realize how much stuff Apple has packed into OS X, .Mac and iLife that I would have had to pay for in the PC world. For the last 10 years I've constantly been adding things to Windows to try to make it more user friendly and stable. While the add ones I bought did make it more user friendly, they were disjointed and often made the system even less stable. BTW, yes, I know I paid for .Mac. But, personally, I think it's a great deal- at least for the first year.

I'm glad Apple is providing an alternative to Microsoft and I'm proud to say that I contributed my share to allow that to continue. I hope that things go as well as I anticipate and I can be an evangelist to bring more PC users into the light. :D

Peace,
Brian
 
15" imac was disappointment. 17" an improvement . Now about an update

I suspect that with Apple possibbly releasing 970 PowerMacs( 64 bit ) in September and with the School buying season starting in May ( the same time that production of 970 PowerMacs should start and leftover G4 Powermacs inventories starting to shrink ) that Apple could conceiveably update the eMac and iMac to a 1.25 GHZ G4 processor and 133 MHZ bus and not critically hurt sales of the G4 Powermacs that badly . Afterall at that time the G4 Powermac will be the last of it's kind and will be dead by the fall anyway. Apple could try to makeup the profits with larger volume of iMac and eMacs sales during that time while selling off its remaining Powermac inventory.
 
Originally posted by brian0526


Well said. As a recent switcher (Thursday), I wholeheartedly agree. I think Apple's providing a fair product for a fair price. I went to a beginning OS X class yestereay and have only just begun to realize how much stuff Apple has packed into OS X, .Mac and iLife that I would have had to pay for in the PC world. For the last 10 years I've constantly been adding things to Windows to try to make it more user friendly and stable. While the add ones I bought did make it more user friently, they were disjointed and often made the system even less stable. BTW, yes, I know I paid for .Mac. But, personally, I think it's a great deal- at least for the first year.

I'm glad Apple is providing an alternative to Microsoft and I'm proud to say that I contributed my share to allow that to continue. I hope that things go as well as I anticipate and I can be an evangelist to bring more PC users into the light. :D

Peace,
Brian
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I am quite impressed by the level of 'commitment' you guys are showing to the Mac cause. Of course that's the way it should be (I myself instantly became a Mac-nut when I switched a little more than a year ago, but I really thought nobody else was like that) and if you give it a chance, OSX will prove wonderful.
Congrats, guys. Welcome to the Mac community.

NicoMan
 
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