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Apple Releases Intel iMac

windowuser82 said:
Makes more sense to me. I already have 2 Windows machines so the dual boot thing is of no use, games aren't that big of a deal for that reason also, more apps run on the G5 currently and the same will run on both platforms in the future, so why not?

Something seems very strange, tho. That gut of mine is going off and I feel there's something else. When are the next Apple events, or does Apple sometimes release products without an event? During the Keynote, didn't Steve say something like "Get one now" in reference to the Macbooks? That REALLY sticks in my mind. Even in context to his previous and following statements it seems out of place somehow.

Hmmm
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Do yourself a favor and don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Steve Jobs is a huckster -- a very good one with good taste, but still a huckster. He sang the iMac G5's praises until it was time to kick it to the curb ... and he kicked it today like Pesci and DeNiro took care of Billy Batts.
 
chicagdan said:
Do yourself a favor and don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Steve Jobs is a huckster -- a very good one with good taste, but still a huckster. He sang the iMac G5's praises until it was time to kick it to the curb ... and he kicked it today like Pesci and DeNiro took care of Billy Batts.
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I feel sorry for the iMac G5 people but Jobs did a fine job kicking it to the curb.

He also kicked my dual G5 rev.b a few months ago.
 
Yeah it's just what happens with technology. You choose to wait and you enjoy it when you get it. All that changed with the iMac was going to intel and having an ambient light sensor (or was that in the G5 also?). You bought it wanting a last revision of PPC, and chose not to wait for intel. Now you have the PPC equivalent to the intel one (other than theoretical speed differences), so what's the problem?
 
chicagdan said:
Do yourself a favor and don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Steve Jobs is a huckster -- a very good one with good taste, but still a huckster. He sang the iMac G5's praises until it was time to kick it to the curb ... and he kicked it today like Pesci and DeNiro took care of Billy Batts.
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It shocked the piddle out of me when he did the "iMac Smack", almost like a mother bitch slapping her own child cuz she spit out a new one, which, also tells me something else is in store. By doing that he pretty much kicked the entire PPC line to the curb, not just the iMacs, so the others have to arrive VERY soon.

Much sooner than expected.
 
epepper9 said:
Yeah it's just what happens with technology. You choose to wait and you enjoy it when you get it. All that changed with the iMac was going to intel and having an ambient light sensor (or was that in the G5 also?). You bought it wanting a last revision of PPC, and chose not to wait for intel. Now you have the PPC equivalent to the intel one (other than theoretical speed differences), so what's the problem?
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There's no problem from my end, I like my computer. But it's almost unheard of for someone to introduce a product to great fanfare and heavy advertising, then turn around in less than three months and say: that computer you bought? It's crap. This one's three times faster.

I just bought a Prius last month. What if Toyota announced today that they're selling the 2006 Prius plug-in hybrid that now gets 200 mpg and it's available today for the same price? Every 2006 Prius owner would go nuts and would probably organize a class action lawsuit. We all expect technology to render our purchases out of date, but what Jobs did today was obnoxious.

And I should add that by Jobs' own words, I'd be a fool not to pack up the computer and return it tomorrow. By Apple policy, I'm entitled to a full refund minus a 10 percent restocking fee. So for $200 (including sales tax -- Chicago tax is insane), I can walk out with this three times faster computer. If every iMac buyer over the past two weeks did that, wouldn't Apple have a big problem on its hands?

(EDIT: Of course, I don't believe's Jobs' claim and like the fact that the computer I have now runs every piece of software in the Mac universe including Virtual PC, which I trust much more than dual boot, and Mac Classic software. So I won't be returning anything. But as a professional speechwriter, I think words matter and Jobs' gave an unnecessary slap in the face to a lot of his users today. I don't appreciate it.)
 
Looks like Appleinsder was right months ago: (Nov '05)

Macrumors said:


Appleinsider also reports that Intel-based Macs will make their debut at Macworld San Francisco (MWSF) 2006 in January.

The rumor site expects that the iMac will be the first Intel-based Macs to be introduced in January. The Intel iMac is not expected to introduce any significant new features or case redesign, instead simply updating the processor with this revision. This is contrary to previous expectations that the Mac mini would be the first Intel Mac introduced at MWSF 2006.

The Intel Powerbook is expected shortly after, perhaps as soon as February 2006. The new Intel Mac laptops are expected to be 20-25% thinner than current offerings.

Meanwhile, Intel Mac minis and Intel iBooks are not expected until the Spring of 2006.
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https://forums.macrumors.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1903149

EDIT: Peace; does the machine you have run a BIOS?
 
Just purchased my 17-inch iMac. Made sure to do a rush delivery. I hope it comes by Friday. :)

So how long do I have until I cannot get AppleCare? I never bought an extended warranty on anything and have had no problems yet (knock on wood). Should I risk it?
 
applekid said:
Just purchased my 17-inch iMac. Made sure to do a rush delivery. I hope it comes by Friday. :)

So how long do I have until I cannot get AppleCare? I never bought an extended warranty on anything and have had no problems yet (knock on wood). Should I risk it?
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You don't need to buy AppleCare until the warranty runs out (which is one year on an iMac.) There are also cheaper places to buy it on the Internet than Apple ... Other World Computing and Amazon.com, to name two.

The general rule of thumb is that AppleCare on a laptop is a must, but on a desktop it's usually a waste of money ... most things that go wrong with desktops are wrong right away and therefore will be covered.
 
chicagdan said:
Do yourself a favor and don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Steve Jobs is a huckster -- a very good one with good taste, but still a huckster. He sang the iMac G5's praises until it was time to kick it to the curb ... and he kicked it today like Pesci and DeNiro took care of Billy Batts.
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Welcome to technology, all sections do it, peecees are constantly in flux too... it's not just Apple. If it's too much to bare buy an abacus or slide rule, they never get upgraded.
 
These new iMacs are very tempting! I wanted the previous model for the Front Row experience alone, but this just makes it even worse! How are we supposed to afford all of these Macs? :(

But then again, I really want an Apple Cinema Display... but then what is the point of getting an iMac? The 20-inch screen is nice, but I want their 23-inch display. I guess I should wait... the Mac mini upgrade can't be too far off, right?
 
p0intblank said:
These new iMacs are very tempting! I wanted the previous model for the Front Row experience alone, but this just makes it even worse! How are we supposed to afford all of these Macs? :(

But then again, I really want an Apple Cinema Display... but then what is the point of getting an iMac? The 20-inch screen is nice, but I want their 23-inch display. I guess I should wait... the Mac mini upgrade can't be too far off, right?
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The 20 inch iMac (both G5 and Intel) has a higher screen resolution than the 20 inch cinema display, it's a spectacular screen.

I own the computer and don't get Front Row. I looked at it once and thought, hmm, wonder what this might eventually become. Doubt I'll ever use it again.
 
Peace said:
I feel sorry for the iMac G5 people but Jobs did a fine job kicking it to the curb.
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In a way, I do too, just due to the significance of the upgrade, but by the same token, welcome to the world of technology - if you can't handle it, get the hell out! ;) :cool:
 
Yes, its a sales pitch.. why you should get a Intel rather than keep using G5 iMac.

No difference to what microsoft do when it launches the right revision of windows - ms tell you why the previous version sucked and why the new version is sooo much better.



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Originally Posted by chicagdan
Do yourself a favor and don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Steve Jobs is a huckster -- a very good one with good taste, but still a huckster. He sang the iMac G5's praises until it was time to kick it to the curb ... and he kicked it today like Pesci and DeNiro took care of Billy Bat
 
Stella said:
No difference to what microsoft do when it launches the right revision of windows - ms tell you why the previous version sucked and why the new version is sooo much better.
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Actually there is a difference. This one is actually better. With windows each version is a comprimise of another. Features up, but Stability down. :p
 
~Shard~ said:
In a way, I do too, just due to the significance of the upgrade, but by the same token, welcome to the world of technology - if you can't handle it, get the hell out! ;) :cool:
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No, the true weaklings are those who believe everything pitchmen tell them and who assume that new always means better. I think my G5 is the true iMac, no matter what Steve says.
 
Anyone else notice that the new iMacs use SO-DIMMs for their RAM and not the full size DIMMs their elderly counterparts use?
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Mechcozmo said:
Anyone else notice that the new iMacs use SO-DIMMs for their RAM and not the full size DIMMs their elderly counterparts use?
:confused:
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Make perfect sense since I think the iMac's will just be slightly beefier MacBooks from now on. Just like the Mac mini is the low end iBook in a new case. By reducing the number of componients they further exploit economies of scale and re-use of engeneering resources. I would expect to see iBooks and Mac mini's to go intel at the same time as well. PowerMac's are a whole different beast and stand alone as the best of breed for the line and have no counterpart.
 
windowuser82 said:
Heh. I dunno how to feel about this. I wanted and expected a Mac Mini, but I'm also glad stock prices went so high (and glad I finally dumped) and made a great deal of cash.

An Intel iMac will not be sitting on my desk, tho, atleast not a rev.a. Now more than ever I'm tempted to buy a G5 iMac, which is very strange.

Apples plan is very clear. Macbook as a transition piece "Lets get it out there", iMac being such a huge, steady seller "We can release one NOW and still make a killing in 6 months when another is announced". Smart move, Mr. Jobs. I feel really bad for the guys who just bought one, tho. I'll be glad to take it off your hands but for half the price :)
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060106-5920.html might be of interest to you. The Merom/Conroe Apples will likely be released later in 2006. Also check out http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051012-5424.html

I think that the macbooks will probably have a good life. The meroms will be faster yes, especially with that 4MB cache, but their 64-bit nature will probably not affect people significantly for a while. (The big deal with going to 64-bit processors is to make more than 4GB RAM available easily while keeping a flat memory model.)
 
chicagdan said:
No, the true weaklings are those who believe everything pitchmen tell them and who assume that new always means better. I think my G5 is the true iMac, no matter what Steve says.
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Whatever works for ya buddy. :p ;)
 
Mechcozmo said:
Anyone else notice that the new iMacs use SO-DIMMs for their RAM and not the full size DIMMs their elderly counterparts use?
:confused:
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Interesting differences in the specs ... Intel iMac clearly gets the better graphics card (video spanning and DVI are now part of the equation.) It also gets slightly faster RAM (667 mhz RAM to 533 mhz RAM in the PPC.)

But I searched with a fine toothed comb to find one PPC advantage and I found it ... the Intel iMac system bus is 667 mhz while the PPC system bus is 700 mhz ... take that Intel!
 
chicagdan said:
The 20 inch iMac (both G5 and Intel) has a higher screen resolution than the 20 inch cinema display, it's a spectacular screen.

I own the computer and don't get Front Row. I looked at it once and thought, hmm, wonder what this might eventually become. Doubt I'll ever use it again.
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20 inch iMac display resolution: 1680x1050
20 inch Cineema display resolution: 1680x1050
 
chicagdan said:
Once Intel-based software becomes ubiquitous, I'll buy an even faster computer next year. Be the Intel guinea pig, please.
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Okay, and then I'll buy an even faster computer the year after you, so :p mine will be better than yours.

;) :D

And the cycle continues... :cool:
 
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