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zorinlynx

macrumors G3
May 31, 2007
8,198
17,901
Florida, USA
Fixing it is good but there definitely needs to be some explanation for how the hell this happened in the first place !
I think Apple is extremely focused on making sure we don't lose data in our photo libraries. If a past bug resulted in orphaned files, restoring them is a good thing. Previously deleted photos can be deleted again.

If the bug that caused them to be orphaned is fixed, this will delete them for good, theoretically. I mean who knows what's actually going on in their servers.

Either way don't put stuff in the cloud that would cause you huge problems if it leaked, I say.
 

t0rqx

macrumors 68000
Nov 27, 2021
1,635
3,829
Unreal. Wtf is going on at Apple, they’ve been dropping the ball lately. This is a nightmare of a bug.

Edit: also, what happens to the photos that have reappeared? Do they disappear again? We need way more info than a footnote.
You actually think Apple is about great products? Since SJ left its all about marketing and money. The old school are all ousted.
 

jordanlucero

macrumors newbie
Jul 11, 2023
8
13
So they just going to ignore the photos returning as a bug? It’s just an oops?! That’s not good enough. So are photos deleted or not? We want details not a note on an update screen.
Because anything you delete isn’t actually wiped from your device, whether it’s a file on your computer or a photo on your phone. It’s marked as deleted on the operating system level, and opened up as free space for new data to take its place. Somewhere down the line, something’s been messed up in the Photos app, causing this.

If you’ve ever used Disk Utility on a Mac and seen the faster vs. more secure option when erasing a disk, that’s what this is referring to. It’s faster to just mark everything as deleted on a disk, as opposed to putting several cycles of garbage data to cover up old files. And, I seriously doubt the Reddit rumor is true because I believe iOS creates and throws away an encryption key for everything on a device before it’s erased, so a new user wouldn’t be able to just stumble upon old photos.
 

Attirex

macrumors 65816
Apr 8, 2015
1,002
2,841
This reminds me of when i ripped a CD a few years ago, imported the tracks into my Music library and something glitched - i ended up with a bunch of music tracks that weren’t mine. o_Oo_O
 

Darmok N Jalad

macrumors 603
Sep 26, 2017
5,297
45,938
Tanagra (not really)
The "Recently Deleted" folder in Photos says it can be up to 40 days for files marked as deleted to be "permanantly deleted." Or is this "bug" taking local copies flagged as deleted on physical storage and unflagging them? I mean, writing zeros to storage to fully delete anything will add to device wear. Is that maybe what's going on here? Not defending Apple, but all the recovery software out there basically does this, looking for flagged files that have not been overwritten yet. This could even be happening on iCloud servers.
 

truthsteve

macrumors 6502a
Nov 3, 2023
901
2,732
People who claim they have someone else's photos appearing are clearly lying.

it's definitely people who saved RAW or original files into their photo library but didn't know until now when they heard supposedly 1 Redditor who already deleted the made up post and went ahead to check on their library.

yeah I'm sure out of the 10,000 photos you have in your library, you found that 1 photo you didn't recognize so fast.
 

seek3r

macrumors 68020
Aug 16, 2010
2,334
3,356
I wonder if this was actually a fix for a bug with local library deletion, which we know can happen if the db gets damaged, but instead of purging the files that were supposed to be deleted it surfaced them and re-uploaded them. That would also explain the icloud timestamps
Called it lol
 

t0rqx

macrumors 68000
Nov 27, 2021
1,635
3,829
I think this is code that is still intact for the still-to-be implemented photos scanner Apple wanted to introduce and combat child pornography aka take away privacy. Hence photos are never gonna be deleted. I have a cousin working at Apple legal and he says they gonna change the license agreement to introduce new guidelines that users cannot have the right of their own data on Apple made products.
 
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