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I just updated to 4.3.1 and it was flawless! I will get back with y'all if it fixed the battery issue.
 
Does iPad wifi and iPad 3G use the same update file or do I need to download twice?

Already got iPhone to do so 3 iOS downloads would be nice to avoid!
 
Is anyone else having the issue with the double vibrate when you get a text?? I had this issue with 4.3 and I have heard no complaining about it. Everyone I know who has 4.3 has the double vibrate so it's not just my phone, but I haven't heard anyone else say anything. It's pretty annoying. Anyway, I was just wondering if this fixed that issue or not.
 
There's zero incentive for Apple to do that. They're in the business of making $$. If they made a phone, and supported it for 5 - 7 years, no one would buy new ones, therefore no revenue. It's all about making cash...

Plus, a phone going on 3 plus years is pretty good. You got you money's worth. Sell it on E Bay-or Craigslist, and make some cash. Or like you said, an iPod.

Please bear in mind that Apple were still selling the iPhone 3G in May last year, less than a year ago!
 
IIRC, it's a feature, not a flaw.
Everyone I know who has 4.3 has the double vibrate so it's not just my phone, but I haven't heard anyone else say anything. It's pretty annoying. Anyway, I was just wondering if this fixed that issue or not.
 
There's zero incentive for Apple to do that. They're in the business of making $$. If they made a phone, and supported it for 5 - 7 years, no one would buy new ones, therefore no revenue. It's all about making cash...

Plus, a phone going on 3 plus years is pretty good. You got you money's worth. Sell it on E Bay-or Craigslist, and make some cash. Or like you said, an iPod.

Yeah, but given they still sell the 3GS as a new phone, they should make a 3G version that is lighter on the processor so it's snappier or just provide the 3.X version.
 
419.9 mb on my 32GB 3GS

D.

419.9MB for me with 16GB 3Gs.

Different builds depending on device? Someone with multiple devices might be able to confirm that (if they have to download different builds, or possibly, if your iTunes manages multiple devices, that accounts for bigger downloads that accommodate multiple devices instead of just one).
 
IIRC, it's a feature, not a flaw.

Then how do you turn it off? If it's a feature I should have the option to change it back to how it was. It's pretty annoying and I'm surprised no one else is complaining about it. I understand how some people might like it, but you would think there would be the option to decide which one you want. Similar to changing the rotation lock on the iPad to mute, some liked it and some didn't
 
IIRC, it's a feature, not a flaw.

I actually love this feature, because text messages tend to be more important than other notifications, so if I'm busy and I feel a single-vibrate I know not to worry about it and can look later, wheras if it's a double vibrate I'll look a lot sooner.
 
Then how do you turn it off? If it's a feature I should have the option to change it back to how it was. It's pretty annoying and I'm surprised no one else is complaining about it. I understand how some people might like it, but you would think there would be the option to decide which one you want. Similar to changing the rotation lock on the iPad to mute, some liked it and some didn't

The fix is switching to android..... Because with my HtC G2 I can't feel it vibrate or hear it ding when I get text messages unless it's sitting on a table.
 
419.9MB for me with 16GB 3Gs.

Different builds depending on device? Someone with multiple devices might be able to confirm that (if they have to download different builds, or possibly, if your iTunes manages multiple devices, that accounts for bigger downloads that accommodate multiple devices instead of just one).

Each device has it's own file. It's independent of memory size, so a 16GB iP4 would have the same file as a 32GB iP4 assuming both are GSM.

iPad 1 is one file and iPad2 has 3 files one for wifi, one for GSM, and one for CDMA.
 
It's not that Apple isn't capable of coming up with a version of iOS that would run well on the 3G hardware. Of course they could if they wanted to. What it comes down to is Apple having to draw a line in the sand and phase out support at some point. They can't keep spending money to develop for it forever. The 3G is nearly 3 years old. I think it has served it's purpose well, and now it's time to let it retire in peace. It's worked a long time and is tired.

Personally I am surprised anyone is holding on to older phones like that. There are such good deals to be found in selling old hardware that will allow you to upgrade every year if you want with little or no expense to do so. When the 3Gs came out, I sold my original iPhone online for $160, so the upgrade only cost me $40 plus tax. It was well worth it. And when iPhone 5 drops this summer, I will do the same thing. Not too shabby if you ask me.

I totally agree. However, the 4.x was sold as a viable update to my phone, and my older iPod Touch was upgraded automatically. Had I known it would have rendered them quite useless, I would have not agreed to the upgrade. Also, there is no way (that I can tell) to downgrade to a previous IOS (I'm not overly geeky). I am not asking for on-going support, rather that the phone that I paid for works for its lifetime. It is Apple's fault for not providing a reasonable explanation of what the consequences would be or providing an alternative to that IOS.
 
Then how do you turn it off? If it's a feature I should have the option to change it back to how it was. It's pretty annoying and I'm surprised no one else is complaining about it

It's an Apple feature, and Apple said yes, so you don't get an option :)


As for those people with Verizon iPhone:
I'm pretty sure Verizon got a copy of 4.3.1 and decided not to release it for their customers. It's usually up to the carrier to test and okay any OS on their network. Verizon has always been the slowest in doing so; it's probably a good thing because the OS on their phones are for the most part very solid.
 
Please bear in mind that Apple were still selling the iPhone 3G in May last year, less than a year ago!

I hear you, but keep in mind, most phone manufacturers don't offer any updates. New phones come out every 3 to 5 months for many manufacturers and are abandoned as soon as they hit the street.

Think of the Nexus One, the first Google branded phone. Less than a year old and can be considered ancient and outdated. Did it get any Android updates? I don't know, but it's highly unlikely that it will get Android 2.3 (if it even has 2.2). Phones, even as fancy as they are, are disposable goods designed to last at best a year. That folks can still be mostly happy with an iPhone 3G or even an iPhone 2G would be absurd from any other phone manufacturer.

Don't get me wrong, I think the iPhone has plenty of flaws. I would just lean towards the "The iPhone is the worst phone out there. Except for all the other phones..."
: )
 
Then how do you turn it off? If it's a feature I should have the option to change it back to how it was. It's pretty annoying and I'm surprised no one else is complaining about it. I understand how some people might like it, but you would think there would be the option to decide which one you want. Similar to changing the rotation lock on the iPad to mute, some liked it and some didn't

I could be wrong, but I think I know what you are describing.

It sounds like you need to change your 'play alert tone' setting. In settings>messages, there is a setting that says "play alert tone", and you can set this to once, twice, etc. I believe twice is the default, but you can change it if you prefer. I know you are asking about vibrate, but if you have your mute switch activated, then it will vibrate instead. So this wold account for double vibrating.
 
Is anyone else having the issue with the double vibrate when you get a text?? I had this issue with 4.3 and I have heard no complaining about it. Everyone I know who has 4.3 has the double vibrate so it's not just my phone, but I haven't heard anyone else say anything. It's pretty annoying. Anyway, I was just wondering if this fixed that issue or not.

It's not a bug. It's supposed to do that so when the phone is in your pocket you can tell you got a text when it's on vibrate, so you won't think it's an email or notification.
 
Nah dude, the battery division is in a different building :)

Correct , that building is run entirely on batteries, but you can only work in it for a maximum of 10 hours:)

It's right across from the Droid building where they only work 3 hours. That's why that group has a hard time catching up in OS development.
 
Please bear in mind that Apple were still selling the iPhone 3G in May last year, less than a year ago!

True, but at a substantial discount. $49 vs $199. Big difference. If I got a 2 year old phone, new, for $49 and got a full year out of it, I'd be happy.

I don't argue that doing that gave folks a false hope of long term support. But knowing their track record. I don't know, I guess one could argue both Apple AND the consumer are somewhat at fault...buyer beware?
 
Does iPad wifi and iPad 3G use the same update file or do I need to download twice?

Already got iPhone to do so 3 iOS downloads would be nice to avoid!

Why would you want to download instead of using iTunes. It will download and install the right update file for each device. No worries. Based on the varying file sizes being reported here, there are obviously different builds for each device.
 
My download was nearly finished and iTunes come up with a "download error" and I've had to start from the beginning again.
Oh hi, I just started mine and it said "Do you want to take N10248's download?" And then I clicked on "Ok". Sorry dude...
 
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I heard that from someone else, I tried it but that's referring to the amount of times it repeats. If you don't respond it will repeat that many times until you do. This issue is the double vibrate right when you get the text. I can see how people like it, but it's just annoying for me. My emails and texts are usually in the same importance level and I need to respond to either of them ASAP. It just feels weird and kinda wish they had the option. Oh well. Maybe in 4.3.2
 
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