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No matter what anyone thinks about the bug in the first place you have to give some credit for acknowledging the issue and sending out a fix in a reasonable time.
Well, I'd like to think that the many betas should have sufficed for a bug like this, but regardless I have to agree.

Good job here, Apple.

You're wrong on that. Users reported this to Apple during the beta period. It was ignored. "Screw it. Ship it."

Wait really? I may have missed that one. hmm...
If that's true it's a bit disappointing I have to agree...

I'm holding back my excitement for now I guess.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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I don't want money. I don't want a personal apology. I want a public statement from Tim/Craig to all customers that they are changing their iOS development process to prevent errors like this in the future, whether it's from iOS or the Apps.

Again, Apple should freeze the iOS feature set for a year, and focus on quality/reliability only. Bug fixes and security improvements. That's it. I don't need MORE FEATURES!!!

Reliability is a feature. Apple has forgotten that IMHO.
Well, you're not going to get that public statement you hope for. Software is always going to have bugs, and no executives at any company are ever going to come close to promising that future software won't have "these kinds of bugs". Adjust your expectations or forever be unhappy with technology.
 
You're wrong on that. Users reported this to Apple during the beta period. It was ignored. "Screw it. Ship it."
Just because a fix wasn't ready for it doesn't mean that it was ignored. So much of how software development actually works in the real world is just ignored, misunderstood, or simply not known about and just some theoretical utopian ideas are substituted in place.
 
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Does anyone know what circumstances made this bug occur for only certain individuals? Its not that it effected everyone, because I was not effected. I may be the exception, but form what I've gathered it was a 50/50 type thing.
 
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I don't want money. I don't want a personal apology. I want a public statement from Tim/Craig to all customers that they are changing their iOS development process to prevent errors like this in the future, whether it's from iOS or the Apps.

Again, Apple should freeze the iOS feature set for a year, and focus on quality/reliability only. Bug fixes and security improvements. That's it. I don't need MORE FEATURES!!!

Reliability is a feature. Apple has forgotten that IMHO.


I find 9.3 to be very reliable and stable for the days it has been out. One little bug does not mean they have lost a focus on stability. However, the amount of different products they have is a bit of a concern, but that is a different discussion.
 
Just because a fix wasn't ready for it doesn't mean that it was ignored. So much of how software development actually works in the real world is just ignored, misunderstood, or simply not known about and just some theoretical utopian ideas are substituted in place.
Thank you. So much ignorance about software development is present around here, it's ridiculous. For the record... it isn't ignorant to not know something, it's ignorant to not know something and assume you know everything.
 
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OTA is 35~MB? No? My 6s and Air 2 were both 35.3MB.

My 6 Plus was about 27MB. 12" iPad Pro was about 35Mb. Both OTA. I would've used iTunes, but Apple had not yet pushed the update to that point when I had tried that method.

They're probably updating using iTunes. iTunes will always download the full iOS image and store it locally to be used for future restores/updates.
 
I don't want money. I don't want a personal apology. I want a public statement from Tim/Craig to all customers that they are changing their iOS development process to prevent errors like this in the future, whether it's from iOS or the Apps.

Again, Apple should freeze the iOS feature set for a year, and focus on quality/reliability only. Bug fixes and security improvements. That's it. I don't need MORE FEATURES!!!

Reliability is a feature. Apple has forgotten that IMHO.

Lol this kid cracks me up
 
I find 9.3 to be very reliable and stable for the days it has been out. One little bug does not mean they have lost a focus on stability. However, the amount of different products they have is a bit of a concern, but that is a different discussion.

One little bug? This affected the usability of Safari, Mail and any apps containing links for 6 days. My device was largely a brick for work.

At least with Antenna-Gate on the iPhone 4, you could still make a phone call. This was bigger than that.
 
awesome get installed and now cannot login to several website such as Paypal.com reports back "Some of your info isn't correct. Please try again" but info is correct...
 
One little bug? This affected the usability of Safari, Mail and any apps containing links for 6 days. My device was largely a brick for work.

At least with Antenna-Gate on the iPhone 4, you could still make a phone call. This was bigger than that.

It was very hit or miss. I know noone personally that had that bug, however, mail would freeze from time to time on me.
 
No matter what anyone thinks about the bug in the first place you have to give some credit for acknowledging the issue and sending out a fix in a reasonable time.

Most of the negative comments say nothing about Apple taking too long to address the problem. They question how such a major bug makes it all the way through te beta versions without being discovered. Very fair question.
 
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Well I mean, if you want to go and implement the fix yourself AND test the whole OS to make sure everything is okay, be my guest, oh and take no longer than one week please. Go on, off you go.

This wasn't an issue present in any of the betas, it was a brand new bug and it's fixed already. Show them a bit of credit.
No. Shoddy update with Yosemite WiFi issues. Ongoing with El Capitan. Shoddy work with iOS update 9 on going with latest update. It's just shoddy work releasing updates that renders people devices either useless or severely hampered for daily use.
 
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Mine was only 35.3MB on the 6s Plus. Maybe you are on the public beta still or something is wrong...

No. I had just the regular stuff 9.3. This was on a mini 3. 1.84GBs. Same as it was for 9.3.0. I'll see what it does on an Air 1 as soon as this finishes. Maybe it's because I'm going through iTunes?
 
Just because a fix wasn't ready for it doesn't mean that it was ignored. So much of how software development actually works in the real world is just ignored, misunderstood, or simply not known about and just some theoretical utopian ideas are substituted in place.

We've been over this. Apple needs to freeze all development on new features for a year and assign its team to improve the quality of the existing feature set.

That's real world. That's not utopian. That's called reliability and fault testing.
 
No. I had just the regular stuff 9.3. This was on a mini 3. 1.84GBs. Same as it was for 9.3.0. I'll see what it does on an Air 1 as soon as this finishes. Maybe it's because I'm going through iTunes?

If your going though iTunes it will down the whole OS again, just go to settings > software updates > install this will only download the changes needed (normally between 30mb and 300mb)
 
Well, I'd like to think that the many betas should have sufficed for a bug like this, but regardless I have to agree.

Good job here, Apple.



Wait really? I may have missed that one. hmm...
If that's true it's a bit disappointing I have to agree...

I'm holding back my excitement for now I guess.

Glassed Silver:mac

See here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-crashing-issue.1964477/page-9#post-22739147

It was reported to Apple, and they shipped 9.3 anyway.
 
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You're wrong on that. Users reported this to Apple during the beta period. It was ignored. "Screw it. Ship it."

Just because a fix wasn't ready for it doesn't mean that it was ignored. So much of how software development actually works in the real world is just ignored, misunderstood, or simply not known about and just some theoretical utopian ideas are substituted in place.

Could be correct. I never saw a mention of this being reported during the betas but I find it interesting that 9.3.1 web traffic was spotted a while back and today that's the only item listed in the change log. So perhaps it was not ready and still being tested not ignored.
 
Reasonable time? Is 6 days reasonable?

By the way, an anonymous PR drone acknowledged the issue. I've yet to hear Tim or Craig make any kind of statement.


It's excellent considering the elusive nature of the bug, the need to get as much feedback from as many users as possible, to discover, reproduce, and understand what the problem is and how it is triggered, to developing a solution, to creating an internal beta test program engaging many users to verify the solution works, and then to ultimately roll it out to the masses.

Perhaps you were expecting a one day turn around?

Tim's admin will be soon calling to schedule a lunch with him at your convenience.
 
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