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Apple Releases iOS 9.3.5 With Fix for Three Critical Vulnerabilities Exploited by Hacking Group
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Perhaps certain people need to be targeted, their lives, family, friends, homes, devices compromised. Bring these people under the harsh light of exposure.
"Niv Carmi, Shalev Hulio and Omri Lavie, sold the company to Francisco Partners in 2014 for $110 million, but still appear actively involved in running the business. The NSO Group sells its wares to government clients, including Panama and Mexico — and now, apparently, the UAE."
Because asking users to maintain their system software is like asking users to partition their hard disk drives. These things should happen behind the scenes if they are required, they shouldn't even be visible to the user. It's poor user experience.Why security updates are so "special" that a user should NOT know when it is being patched?
How you can get user feedback if your survey don't interact with user?
This is beyond me.
You need to understand that this forum is known as the Apple bashing forum. The underlying tone here is to find new and better ways of hating and bashing Apple no matter what they do. I may have misinterpreted your comment, but that's only because some of us have been "trained" to expect negativity to any and every article posted. This site even gets bashed for posting articles to help newcomers.
Negative opinions, when appropriate, are one thing. But negativity for the sake of negativity and bashing is another. I just can't waste my time reading these forums anymore in an attempt to gain knowledge and instead see nothing but vitriol.
I'm sure this has been asked already, but since I have public beta 10 as software updates (still haven't upgraded), what's the best thing for me to do? I can't seem to get the 9.3.5 upgrade, should I just upgrade to public beta 6 and will I be fine?
Well in my 6 year membership here and being on staff for the last 4 years, I've seen a lot here on the forums and I don't fully agree that the underlying tone here is to hate and bash Apple or bash newcomers. Sure it happens but, I see an equally positive amount of comments made on both fronts as well.
Additionally, when members or posts step over the line, they should be reported to us so we can evaluate if any forum rules were broken and we can attempt to clean up the problem and help the member assimilate to the rules and be a more productive contributor.
I've read a countless number of your posts during the past few days, but I'm still not sure - are you intentionally trolling or do you really mean all of that seriously what you write?
Having visible security updates is a must, the user needs to know that the device has been patched so he/she can feel at least a little bit more secure.
People complain that Android does NOT get updates, not that iOS gets them
I have the agree with the other guy. I'd prefer that critical security updates like this applied on their own in the background and I was notified that a restart is necessary (if necessary) as opposed to me having to know I need to do one, and going to do it on my own.
Apple famously makes it's updates available for most of it's devices, but it is a poor user experience to have to do it myself. iOS 9 to 10, yeah, that's my choice. Critical security flaw - do that for me.
Apple famously makes it's updates available for most of it's devices, but it is a poor user experience to have to do it myself. iOS 9 to 10, yeah, that's my choice. Critical security flaw - do that for me.
I've read a countless number of your posts during the past few days, but I'm still not sure - are you intentionally trolling or do you really mean all of that seriously what you write?
Having visible security updates is a must, the user needs to know that the device has been patched so he/she can feel at least a little bit more secure.
People complain that Android does NOT get updates, not that iOS gets them
Please don't use that obnoxious font. Why do you have the need to make yourself feel special?
Ha, am I trolling? Absolutely not.I've read a countless number of your posts during the past few days, but I'm still not sure - are you intentionally trolling or do you really mean all of that seriously what you write?
Having visible security updates is a must, the user needs to know that the device has been patched so he/she can feel at least a little bit more secure.
People complain that Android does NOT get updates, not that iOS gets them
No, users shouldn't need to get notifications that their devices needs patching so they can feel secure. NO NO NO. The user should feel safe with the knowledge their device is always up to date on security patches because they are silently getting patched automatically in the background, when the device is in standby, overnight etc.
Does it "just work" when the user picks up their device 'in standby' and it's in the middle of installing an update unbeknownst to the user? How silly.
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Well that would be a silly way to program it.
Smart software knows when to hault processes and resume when the coast is clear.
The user should be able to pick up their device and use it just like normal. Installs can be silent and not require powering off or restarts or user interaction.
Think different. Think better.
Do you know what you're talking about? Patching a kernel exploit without restarting?
I guess that stupid font might make you feel special but it sure doesn't make you smart.
Tapping on the equivalent of OK at one point and having it all do the rest is about as far from partitioning a hard drive as it gets. Seems like unnecessary hyperbole continues, which realistically only further undermines what is said.
We should all have world peace too.
First, it's size 4 Arial. Nothing stupid about that font.
Second, it really disappoints me when people imply it can't be done. There are answers to all sorts of problems, they just require time and attention.
Yes patch the kernel, no restart.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-reboot-patching-comes-to-linux-4-0/
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/no-reboot-kernel-patching-and-why-you-should-care
What exactly is the point of your relies when they come from a position of "no". I'm looking at ways Apple can make their products even better, improve the experience for users.
Realistic replies to imaginative desires. I would welcome improvements and changes to various aspects of things, but simply putting things down as just expectations and saying it should be that way and complaining that it isn't doesn't really do anything.
We can all talk about how there should be world peace and that it's even easily achievable by people simply being nicer to each other--but does basically simply demanding that and being outraged that it hasn't happened yet and doesn't seem like it's anywhere close to even happening somehow help it in any way?
At the very least presenting it as a desire for improvement and hope for change would be more realistic and meaningful, compared to just essentially made up outrage and unrealistic demands/expectations.
Security patching done silently and automatically and frequently.
Updates to products features and software users interact with on a more regular schedule, quarterly, bi annual, annual.
When Apple eventually moves to silent updates for security, think back to this thread.
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Yep, and when Apple eventually does it, then remember you heard it first on this thread and note your resistive and negativity about it all was for nothing.
Seems like you missed or ignored the actual point there and basically just went with pretty much the exact opposite of it.
Yep, while you were going off into the world peace tangent and not addressing the topic.
I assume Apple will eventually move to a system where they restart the phone when the phone has been plugged in for an hour or more. I don't see it ever becoming a "no restart" update.