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if the spy ware can track the iphone user, so, the guy was Turkey was lucky during the coup. Now it makes you think whether or not the iphone is safe to use by important people.
 
I have never had an experience of an iOS update that took only 10 minutes "or so"... unless "or so" means "another 20 minutes". :p

That's my only real complaint about this, the updates take a while. They need to improve the update process, make it faster.
 
Yeah I look at this as Apple missing things and thankfully fixing them. Not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing that bugs aren't being squashed sooner. iOS 7/8/9 weren't exactly smooth sailing in comparison to previous versions.

All the fixes were probably not ready (since this was reported, not even to Apple, 14 days ago!!) and with security fixes you want to get them out as fast as you can.
IOS 9 has been very smooth, the worse versions were some of the early ones and 7-8.
 
Of course nothing is ever perfect but the last few years have proven iOS has tons of bugs because of the huge changes that come every year. So we either have less features and less bugs, or more features and wait longer to have the bugs and glitches fixed.

There hasn't been a ton of bugs in IOS 9, maybe in 8 (which was a mess and probably is the reason we got a public beta now).
 
I'll pass on this update...

None of those issues will affect me looking through Apple's security page, since i never use my iphone to surf hardly ever...

If it will affect me personally, then i'll update, but i'm pretty good with my own security

The only obvious one would be to patch Pegasus.
 
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Perhaps your are not aware that NO software designer/developer produces 100% secure/error-free software.

And the US government is fully aware of that shortfall at Apple

"Many White House aides now carry the most recent iPhones. Mr. Obama, however, still carries a specially modified, highly secure BlackBerry."
 
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There are so many updates because there was so much wrong with iOS 9.

I'm glad iOS 10 is coming out soon. There are some questionable design choices in iOS 10, but man it flies! Even with the weird interface changes, it's so much better than iOS 9.

10.0 will be better than 9.3.5 and that's remarkable.

No, there wasn't "so much wrong" with IOS 9, if you were talking about 7 or worse 8, especially with an old device, you'd have a point; otherwise, you do not.
 
if the spy ware can track the iphone user, so, the guy was Turkey was lucky during the coup. Now it makes you think whether or not the iphone is safe to use by important people.

Security is an illusion. What you don't know is not knowledge. If you don't know about such vulnerabilities, you may think you are safe
 
Huh, Israeli media is reporting that Israeli company NSO Group is the developer of the abusive malware that was patched by 9.3.5. They allegedly sell it exclusively to governments for "law enforcement purposes"...
 
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Absolutely. This is the point I'm trying to make. Apple is moving further away from their mantra, they are acting more reactive than proactive.

At least they are acting!

9.3.4 just works. It is impossible for any company to find all the security holes in software for any operating system.
There are more people in the world with time on their hands to try every convoluted idea to break systems.

Even if a company had 1,000 people working on systems /security etc. they would still be outnumbered.
 
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At least they are acting!

9.3.4 just works. It is impossible for any company to find all the security holes in software for any operating system.
There are more people in the world with time on their hands to try every convoluted idea to break systems.

Even if a company had 1,000 people working on systems /security etc. they would still be outnumbered.


Basically, no one can win.. That doesn't seem like a fair-fight
 
Looks like Apple leads the way in not knowing anything about software.
Because they fixed flaws? Every piece of software on the planet has flaws. Do you not understand that software development is a constant cycle of releases and patches? Your posts are making you look....well not too intelligent on this topic.

Are you not familiar with Patch Tuesday? The day Microsoft releases new updates and patches? Seriously, you're being willfully obtuse or you truly don't understand anything about how software works.
 
I like the new Apple that doesn't just sit and hope. I like it that they seem to be pushing forward with more fixes.

Yep, because they have higher quantity of bugs that have significant user impact. To me it just signals that they have reduced their internal QA costs and are waiting for people outside of Apple to find stuff to fix. You would think that with the cash in the bank they would beef up QA spending, but no, it seems that Apple is being run by someone you understand international shipping, but not software development. "Houston we have a problem!"
 
if the spy ware can track the iphone user, so, the guy was Turkey was lucky during the coup. Now it makes you think whether or not the iphone is safe to use by important people.

If the Iphone is not safe, well nothing is. The NSA... just got hacked (supposedly), so in fact just assume you're under constant attack and act accordingly.
If they're worried, they can reset their phone as new and not click on phishing links.
 
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Because they fixed flaws? Every piece of software on the planet has flaws. Do you not understand that software development is a constant cycle of releases and patches? Your posts are making you look....well not too intelligent on this topic.


3 software updates in 6 weeks - users don't expect that crap from Apple - but you can continue being in denial.
 
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I have never had an experience of an iOS update that took only 10 minutes "or so"... unless "or so" means "another 20 minutes". :p
Certainly could depend on the device. But a few iPhone 6 phones that I deal with typically take around 10 minutes (like today's 9.3.5 update did). That said, even 20 is still in that around 10 minute range as far as how intrusive something like that would be--many people have times when they aren't using their phone for 20 minutes, if not much longer than that, so having an update install essentially on its own while the device isn't going to be used anyway or could be easily without isn't exactly in the realm of being "intrusive".
 
Yep, because they have higher quantity of bugs that have significant user impact. To me it just signals that they have reduced their internal QA costs and are waiting for people outside of Apple to find stuff to fix. You would think that with the cash in the bank they would beef up QA spending, but no, it seems that Apple is being run by someone you understand international shipping, but not software development. "Houston we have a problem!"

Nope, they just used to wait longer and roll up a whole bunch of security and bug fixes together in larger updates. That's not a good idea for anyone.
 
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