Maybe that's true for an app with a complex and animated UI (like a game), BUT for an app like mine (see signature) where most of the work is under the hood and the UI is simple a bunch of text fields for input and a table for output, it makes much more sense for the app to be universal, even if I build a completely different (but still simple) UI with a split view for the iPad.
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Apple Releases iPhone SDK 3.2 Beta 2 (for iPad)
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Maybe that's true for an app with a complex and animated UI (like a game), BUT for an app like mine (see signature) where most of the work is under the hood and the UI is simple a bunch of text fields for input and a table for output, it makes much more sense for the app to be universal, even if I build a completely different (but still simple) UI with a split view for the iPad.
Something New - Safari in Simulator... Finally
Heres something new in beta 2:
Safari App is in the new Simulator. You can also play videos by
dragging them into the simulator. You can now see the different
players it uses for playing embed MOV files and mp3.
Oddly, the Safari icon is just a white blank icon.
Heres something new in beta 2:
Safari App is in the new Simulator. You can also play videos by
dragging them into the simulator. You can now see the different
players it uses for playing embed MOV files and mp3.
Oddly, the Safari icon is just a white blank icon.
True. Very simple apps will port easily. Apps that have lots of UI elements, or lots of resources, will be problematic - particularly, if one simply ports a UI-heavy app, one isn't taking proper advantage/consideration of the differences in form factor and usability between the evices.
I don't think it's crippled intentionally, Apple just need the stable platform for iPad to launch on first, it explains why iPad's home screen look so barebone. I think Apple is just being overcautious instead releasing a new OS at same time with iPad. The development on 4.0 is still going, just that it's not ready for both iPhone and iPad at this moment. Apple doesn't want developers to be focusing on two different OS at same time, it would screw everything up. Remember that Apple's App Store review staff would get overwhelmed with two OSes. Better to have iPad hardware stuff out first, make sure it works and than to really work full time on the 4.0 OS for both hardware.
Not passing through the FCC doesn't mean anything, Apple or any other company can request FCC to hold on till last minute before releasing the information on the web. They did this with iPhone as well.
Most likely the iPad is finished by now and has been FCC certified. Just going through full manufacturing. Remember late March is supposedly a global launch, not just US market, so they need a lot of units to pull it off. They also have 6 different models to make.
Curious when we'll get our hands on an OS 3.2 beta for the iPhone. I hope the delay is part of the OS 4.0 beta that hopefully will be out there in the coming months.
You mean in the coming month, because if it's like last year... we'll get the beta next month!
Weird. I even did a "reset" on the simulator and still have no safari icon (not even a blank one). Something goofy must be going on.
lol. all of us should compile like an ultimatum wishlist (yes, probably one of the last remaining 10 applefans that hasnt done so) and send it to Santa Steve (affectionately known as Satan in some regions) via traditional methods. i'm sure his mind will crack one day.. somehow
nope. i tried to upload a photo to facebook, but the "choose file" button was grayed out and clicking it did nothing.
aww. that sucks. i hope that with the actual iPad, we are finally able to get a proper web browser instead of a "mobile" version. i'm sure hardware-wise, its capable of it. i've given up hopes on Flash but this file upload/download is such a basic necessity -_-
Its going to stink when websites automatically direct us to an iPhone version when they detect Mobile Safari on iPad!
They shouldn't. The iPad will have a different User Agent Profile than the iPhone.
I just had an epiphany!!!
I know some of you guys have probably already come to this conclusion, but I now realize why there are possibly no apps for calculator, clock, stocks, etc. Could it be that they're being redesigned and will run at both native iPhone and iPad resolutions? Kind of like a sliding scale? Imagine if you will a person with farsightedness, typically elderly, who would need a full-sized clock or calculator, just like those big ones they sell at the dollar store. Now imagine a person without the need for this feature preferring instead to run many smaller apps together at the same time, like in a dashboard environment. Can you say multitasking? I know it's limited multitasking and only for 1st party apps, like we have already, but their are great possibilities here. Maybe even 3rd party apps could get approval for multitasking the same way you can run the iPod app while runningthe Safari app. This would appease the folks that want to Skype and surf the web, or check contacts as well. Don't know if Apple would go for this, but the thought of running a stocks app next to a calculator app makes sense to me. My Dad does this all the timeon dashboard and now my Grandma and my Mom will be able to read things off of these apps because they'll scale up when needed. Again think of it as a combination Dasboard/Entourage environment that can only use 1st party apps for the time being. Weather and sports, stocks and a calculator, 2 Safari windows!? (oops getting ahead of myself), as long as they kept it simple it would work. Most of use will not need a 9.7" calculator running full screen, but some people might.
I know some of you guys have probably already come to this conclusion, but I now realize why there are possibly no apps for calculator, clock, stocks, etc. Could it be that they're being redesigned and will run at both native iPhone and iPad resolutions? Kind of like a sliding scale? Imagine if you will a person with farsightedness, typically elderly, who would need a full-sized clock or calculator, just like those big ones they sell at the dollar store. Now imagine a person without the need for this feature preferring instead to run many smaller apps together at the same time, like in a dashboard environment. Can you say multitasking? I know it's limited multitasking and only for 1st party apps, like we have already, but their are great possibilities here. Maybe even 3rd party apps could get approval for multitasking the same way you can run the iPod app while runningthe Safari app. This would appease the folks that want to Skype and surf the web, or check contacts as well. Don't know if Apple would go for this, but the thought of running a stocks app next to a calculator app makes sense to me. My Dad does this all the timeon dashboard and now my Grandma and my Mom will be able to read things off of these apps because they'll scale up when needed. Again think of it as a combination Dasboard/Entourage environment that can only use 1st party apps for the time being. Weather and sports, stocks and a calculator, 2 Safari windows!? (oops getting ahead of myself), as long as they kept it simple it would work. Most of use will not need a 9.7" calculator running full screen, but some people might.
Sorry about the lack of spacing in the last post.
I just thought of something else in regard to the limited multitasking of 1st party apps. Safari and Pages running side by side, or Photos and Safari!!! That way you could just drag and drop images and text, like on a Mac.
It will be so cumbersome to have to log into a program (Pages), type something, realize you need an image, log out, log into another program (Safari or Photos), find an image, copy it, log out, log back in to the original program, and then paste the image. Why not just click, drag and drop. This was genius when it was invented 30 years ago and it still is.
Apple is working on this. They have to be. Even with the new chip to speed up opening and closing apps it's just so cumbersome to do so. Makes me think they designed the keyboard dock in the wrong orientation though. It should have worked both ways (horizontal and vertical). Apple could have easily slapped another 30-pin connector on the side. This way you could have the tablet docked and charging while the lame camera kit adapter sticks out of the side. Or better yet, dock the sucker and have a swiveling webcam, similar to the way a camcorders mini viewing window operates, so that you could have both a front and back positioned webcam (3rd party of course).
I'm so excited about this platform. The possiblities are endless!!!
I just thought of something else in regard to the limited multitasking of 1st party apps. Safari and Pages running side by side, or Photos and Safari!!! That way you could just drag and drop images and text, like on a Mac.
It will be so cumbersome to have to log into a program (Pages), type something, realize you need an image, log out, log into another program (Safari or Photos), find an image, copy it, log out, log back in to the original program, and then paste the image. Why not just click, drag and drop. This was genius when it was invented 30 years ago and it still is.
Apple is working on this. They have to be. Even with the new chip to speed up opening and closing apps it's just so cumbersome to do so. Makes me think they designed the keyboard dock in the wrong orientation though. It should have worked both ways (horizontal and vertical). Apple could have easily slapped another 30-pin connector on the side. This way you could have the tablet docked and charging while the lame camera kit adapter sticks out of the side. Or better yet, dock the sucker and have a swiveling webcam, similar to the way a camcorders mini viewing window operates, so that you could have both a front and back positioned webcam (3rd party of course).
I'm so excited about this platform. The possiblities are endless!!!
I mentioned the dashboard idea earlier in the comments. I've also talked about it a bit in the iPad discussion forum. I tend to think that Apple will implement a dashboard interface while giving developers the tools to develop lightweight "widget" apps that run in the background. This could at least satisfy the biggest multitasking complaint: streaming radio from a Pandora widget. However, I doubt we will see 3rd party support until 4.0.
As an aside, I really want an improved notification system. Like if a new email is received, an icon shows up in the title bar that when clicked, pulls down an inbox menu so I don't have to leave my current app. Mail already runs in the background. They might as well give me quick access to it!!
If this is the case, you are doing something wrong. A properly designed iPad app should be almost exactly the same as a properly designed iPhone app, save that the views are different, and perhaps some view-specific code. There is a good reason Apple is pushing for universal binaries.
All the backend code should be exactly the same (the MC in MVC) and only the views should change. That should leave you with a set of nibs, and possibly a few custom views for iPad, otherwise your code should be exactly the same. In some cases you won't even need custom views.
The only exception to this is if your app is mostly views, and has very little logic behind it - even then using multiple screen resolutions might encourage you to think about controls which can scale to different sizes easily.
Very useful comment. I was thinking more or less the same when I was going through the ipad programming guide. Bundling the two apps in one offer, would be a nice feature too (as some other reader posted here before).