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Interesting.

For me at least, the 10.5 beta is more stable than 10.3. At least they're staying on top of updates!
 
Well for me when after installing and using 10.3 last night my iMac suddenly went black and the audio when nutz. Never had that happen before 10.3...
hope this .1 fixes that.
 
I got the -50 error when I tried to sync after downloading previously purchased music from iTunes on my iPhone 4. Then I opened the iPod app, it updated the library (presumably to include the downloads), and the problem went away.
My solution was much more complicated than that. I had to uncheck all songs that I'd downloaded yesterday before iTunes would stop giving the -50 error. It seems as if it couldn't figure out what to do about music that was already in iTunes on my computer and stuff I downloaded that day, which is weird because you'd think it's merely a database issue.

What's really annoying is that I purchased a new album yesterday album, something I didn't have at all, and once downloaded to my Touch, I lost EVERYTHING in my Touch except that album - and as I was on my out to work I didn't have time to troubleshoot. So that's why I took advantage of downloading previous purchases. Got home, synced, and got the error, but immediately my 45gb~ of music on the Touch was available again, but also with the duplicated purchases AND their counterparts from my own iTunes, leading me to believe the error was something to do with the database. And that's why I unchecked those downloads, after which it synced perfectly. Annoying, but it worked. Hopefully 10.3.1 takes care of this - I really liked being able to download older purchases. It had me totally sold on paying $25/year for iTunes In The Cloud.
 
currently have 1 mac and an iPod Touch

most music i get is ripped from CD, bought from eMusic and a little from iTunes
If I buy from iTunes its a pain downloading twice when i can just connect up my ipod and its synced very quickly, plus i use playlists mainly which this doesnt do (i need to plug it in somewhere over night to charge so why not just sync at the same time)

I missread the whole thing when i first read about it, when i saw it only worked on WiFi, I assumed it would do the same as a wired sync now only wirelessly, didnt know that all it did was re download your purchases on other devices

i thought homesharing did multiple machines already, download on one and it copies to others ?

Wireless sync is something different - they are adding that as well. That does the same thing as the current usb sync.

Homesharing does not copy the songs to other machines - it just lets you play songs from other machines - there's still only one copy.
 
someone care to explain what the automatic downloads does?

does this mean if i update an app or download music on computer it automatically goes to all my devices?
 
someone care to explain what the automatic downloads does?

does this mean if i update an app or download music on computer it automatically goes to all my devices?

unsure of if you update an app, but if you buy on one device it auto downloads on your others
 
iTunes

Hmmm haven't got the update through on my mac yet.
It'll be interesting to test the new iClouds features once its released, will it be any good do you think?
 
these stupid updates wouldnt be so bad if Apple didnt have the worst software update process ever made

Why does itunes check for an update independently? When I click update why cant it JUST update itunes? Why does it have to take 5 minutes to scan my entire system for more updates when I just told it to update itunes? It already checked for updates which is why it notified me that I needed one so why is it checking AGAIN? Why do I have to redownload the entire 75mbs again? Why does it then rescan my entire system to check for more updates after installing? Why cant this all happen automatically and without me having to jump through hoops?

Wake the hell up Apple, that is absolutely pathetic
 
What update?

I'm in Austria, but have a US iTunes account. Still shows 10.2.2 as the latest edition...
 
Are there supposed to be any UI changes because I'm not getting any..
 
I'm in Austria, but have a US iTunes account. Still shows 10.2.2 as the latest edition...

I had to manually download, but even this morning I got 10.3, not 10.3.1.

Unless the (54) after the 3 indicates the .1.
 
Spacebar no longer play/pause

Is anyone else noticing that the spacebar no longer plays/pauses the current track? That was super handy at work when someone walks in or phone rings to switch to iTunes window and hit space, rather than move across 2 screens (that's a lot of mousing across dual 27's) and either click on the dock icon or play button.

Correction: After some further research, if you just open iTunes the default used to be the spacebar play/paused, but now the default is into the search field, which is why the space bar doesn't work. So now you have to click into the playlist, then it worked
 
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Is anyone else noticing that the spacebar no longer plays/pauses the current track? That was super handy at work when someone walks in or phone rings to switch to iTunes window and hit space, rather than move across 2 screens (that's a lot of mousing across dual 27's) and either click on the dock icon or play button.

Correction: After some further research, if you just open iTunes the default used to be the spacebar play/paused, but now the default is into the search field, which is why the space bar doesn't work. So now you have to click into the playlist, then it worked
I always use the play/pause/etc. buttons on my Apple keyboard. :cool:
 
At last! A use for that philosophy degree!

I prefer to watch a new version come out, let other people find any potential problems, then upgrade after everything seems stable across a wide swath of users.

Kant's categorical imperative teaches us that what you're doing is bad.
 
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cmaier said:
currently have 1 mac and an iPod Touch

most music i get is ripped from CD, bought from eMusic and a little from iTunes
If I buy from iTunes its a pain downloading twice when i can just connect up my ipod and its synced very quickly, plus i use playlists mainly which this doesnt do (i need to plug it in somewhere over night to charge so why not just sync at the same time)

I missread the whole thing when i first read about it, when i saw it only worked on WiFi, I assumed it would do the same as a wired sync now only wirelessly, didnt know that all it did was re download your purchases on other devices

i thought homesharing did multiple machines already, download on one and it copies to others ?

Wireless sync is something different - they are adding that as well. That does the same thing as the current usb sync.

Homesharing does not copy the songs to other machines - it just lets you play songs from other machines - there's still only one copy.

Home Sharing does allow for both manual and automatic copying of purchased content from one computer to another. iCloud adds iDevices to the mix.

Hope the final version allows specifying on which devices you want which kinds of media downloaded automagically. In the beta the settings in iTunes and the iPhone are pretty much all or nothing across all devices/computers.
 
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Home Sharing does allow for both manual and automatic copying of purchased content from one computer to another. iCloud adds iDevices to the mix.

Hope the final version allows specifying on which devices you want which kinds of media downloaded automagically. In the beta the settings in iTunes and the iPhone are pretty much all or nothing across all devices/computers.

Home sharing only allows you to play media residing on another computer - I see no way to copy media from the source to the client. It just essentially streams the media.

Further home sharing DOES work with idevices.

Apple seems to agree with me: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3819
 
Home sharing only allows you to play media residing on another computer - I see no way to copy media from the source to the client. It just essentially streams the media.

Further home sharing DOES work with idevices.

Apple seems to agree with me: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3819

You just drag the song from the shared library to your library (as noted in the article you referenced). And you can check a box that automatically copies any purchases made on any machine to your machine (also noted in the KB article). Been doing this effortlessly for months, maybe close to a year, to keep my central iTunes machine always current with purchases that anyone in the family has made. Now the iCloud will be the hub instead of individual computers.

http://www.bly.cc/images/itunes-sharing.jpg
http://www.bly.cc/images/itunes-sharing2.jpg

iDevices to this point could stream via Home Sharing, now they are included in the "automatically download" purchases made on other devices or computers. Bought a song on my iPhone last night, when I came home it was already in my iTunes on my computer (vice versa works too, tested it this morning).
 
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You just drag the song from the shared library to your library (as noted in the article you referenced). And you can check a box that automatically copies any purchases made on any machine to your machine (also noted in the KB article). Been doing this effortlessly for months, maybe close to a year, to keep my central iTunes machine always current with purchases that anyone in the family has made. Now the iCloud will be the hub instead of individual computers.

http://www.bly.cc/images/itunes-sharing.jpg
http://www.bly.cc/images/itunes-sharing2.jpg

iDevices to this point could stream via Home Sharing, now they are included in the "automatically download" purchases made on other devices or computers. Bought a song on my iPhone last night, when I came home it was already in my iTunes on my computer (vice versa works too, tested it this morning).

sure, you can drag between pcs/macs only (not idevices). And it doesn't automatically copy files installed on one to the others (unless purchased from the itunes store). This is very different than what icloud/itunes match brings to the table.
 
Home sharing only allows you to play media residing on another computer - I see no way to copy media from the source to the client. It just essentially streams the media.

sure, you can drag between pcs/macs only (not idevices). And it doesn't automatically copy files installed on one to the others (unless purchased from the itunes store). This is very different than what icloud/itunes match brings to the table.

It's not very different at all, it's just been a limited local version of the more complete solution iCloud offers. iDevices are now included in the "Home Sharing" option of automatically downloading content bought on any other registered device/computer, even when away from "Home" (ie off your local network).

iTunes Match is going to "just essentially stream" the media that is not iTunes purchased. Only the iTunes purchased stuff will continue to automagically be copied locally on all devices/computers. Non-iTunes purchased items (ie ripped CDs) will be streamed from the iTunes master copy, not stored locally anywhere for you besides your own ripped copy. Pandora with all your own songs. And sounds like only stuff you have that iTunes doesn't will be uploaded to the iCloud, but will count against your 5GB of storage...

I love what Home Sharing has offered and I will sign up for iTunes Match on Day 1. However, the way it works will subtly over time act as an incentive for people to actually replace the things they pirated, ripped, or even bought elsewhere with proper iTunes versions. I think Apple and the record companies know this...I'm OK with it...
 
between 10.3.1 and 10.3? no.

how about the 10.3 version. Apparently they've refined the UI slightly e.g the volume control and playback controls but mine hasn't changed at all... very strange
 
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