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Apple Releases iWork '09

iWork is a joke. At least for accountants and grad school students like me. I stick with Office Mac 08. iWork is pixie dust compared to that beast. Although Excel 08 not being able to do pivot tables is beyond stupid. I really hope they fix that in Office 2010.
 
I see no point in buying this office pack, except Keynote. It is already worth to be sold as a standalone product.

If iWork would have OpenDocument support, it will be much worth to its price. Because neither OpenOffice or NeoOffice has the page layout abilities that iWork has. And it would be a great contribution to the OpenDocument format. And would convince many companies to switch, considering that OpenDocument format is on the rise.

I wonder if there's a big enterprise uses iWork for mainly purposes. I highly doubt it. Since Lotus Symphony is coming to the competition, though slowly, it will have a bad effect on the iWork pack.
 
Is it possible to install iWork '09 on 10.5.5 cheat installer about version on my hard drive?

Sorry for poor English!
 
I have been playing around with iWork '09 and Pages still crashes quite a bit. I like some of the new features, but I still want autosave and is it too much to ask for them to integrate the system Dictionary/Thesaurus and add in word replacement? I use the thesaurus in Word all the time.
 
Razeus said:
iWork is a joke. At least for accountants and grad school students like me. I stick with Office Mac 08. iWork is pixie dust compared to that beast. Although Excel 08 not being able to do pivot tables is beyond stupid. I really hope they fix that in Office 2010.
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Speak for yourself, iWork got me through law school just fine.
 
Keynote is definitely the standout application of the pack. Don't really use Numbers and Pages (very occasional when I need to design a page layout). Keynote runs rings round PowerPoint but is it worth $99 CAD? Why don't Apple offer an upgrade package for 08 users?
 
gadgetmacfreak said:
I was hoping to see a Visio type vector drawing app. A return of MacDraw and MacPaint.
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Intaglio for MacDraw. The only downside of the app is that it is $89.
Personally, I have been relying on it for a couple of years and it has been totally worth it.

Omnigraffle pro for Visio-type app $199. I have a copy of non-pro version and it is great for outlining diagrams etc, even though I do not use it that much in real life. YMMV.
 
Razeus said:
which I'm sure was more text based, definitely not numbers based.
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Agreed. Even that this has been said a million times by now, Numbers is unusable for anything involving spreadsheets containing more than a couple of rows.

Some array data contain 60+ thousand of those and Excel for Windows is the only software that can handle that. Excel for Mac is barely acceptable for these files and Numbers is a pathetic joke that brings down even the fastest Mac Pro system.
 
Kind of a noobish question, but I'll ask anyways. I got the demo for iWork 09, and have been playing around with it. For some reason, the Magic move feature in Keynote doesn't work the same as it does online. In Keynote, it kind of fades out, then fades in to the area (if that makes sense) while in the video they show online, the object will move and resize itself. Anyone know why this is?
 
Took me a bit of time to figure out Magic Move. Basically, it only works if you have the exact same object on two consecutive slides, then apply the Magic Move transition to the first. Easiest way to accomplish this is to duplicate the first slide, make your changes (but make sure that you only move, rotate, scale, or change opacity on the ones you want the Magic Move to apply to), then go back and apply the transition. It's worked pretty well for me, and it's pretty slick looking.

jW
 
Mal said:
Took me a bit of time to figure out Magic Move. Basically, it only works if you have the exact same object on two consecutive slides, then apply the Magic Move transition to the first. Easiest way to accomplish this is to duplicate the first slide, make your changes (but make sure that you only move, rotate, scale, or change opacity on the ones you want the Magic Move to apply to), then go back and apply the transition. It's worked pretty well for me, and it's pretty slick looking.

jW
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making all the pretty graphics that Apple seems to stress can be done in Office Mac too, can it not?
 
Razeus said:
making all the pretty graphics that Apple seems to stress can be done in Office Mac too, can it not?
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I use both Keynote and PowerPoint. There are lots of things I just cannot do with PowerPoint that I can with Keynote.

Looking back at that last version. The SmartBuilds and the ability to have objects move within a slide are just two examples.

In this new version the Move Magic is certainly one feature that isn't in PowerPoint.

These gaps actually create an issue here in internally at my office since some users cannot use Keynote. When I export to PowerPoint many of these slick options are just simply lost. What I do now is export that keynote presentation as a QuickTime file and this mostly solves the problem.

But in turn there are things in PowerPoint you can't do in Keynote. I don't recall what they are because it has never matter to me.
 
Bosunsfate said:
I use both Keynote and PowerPoint. There are lots of things I just cannot do with PowerPoint that I can with Keynote.

Looking back at that last version. The SmartBuilds and the ability to have objects move within a slide are just two examples.

In this new version the Move Magic is certainly one feature that isn't in PowerPoint.

These gaps actually create an issue here in internally at my office since some users cannot use Keynote. When I export to PowerPoint many of these slick options are just simply lost. What I do now is export that keynote presentation as a QuickTime file and this mostly solves the problem.

But in turn there are things in PowerPoint you can't do in Keynote. I don't recall what they are because it has never matter to me.
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I want to work with it more, so I'm using the demo since I never really used iWork in any form. I do like pages and keynote, but numbers is a joke - but so is Excel in Office Mac 08. I really really hope the next Office Mac puts Excel on the same level, code for code, as the Windows version. I really hate having to Boot Camp into Windows just to use Excel. Now that Picasa is on Mac, I'm soooooooo close to completely moving away from Windows (other than PC Gaming which I rarely do anymore given my time constraints with full time work and grad school and the abysmal quality of gaming these days.)
 
Razeus said:
I want to work with it more, so I'm using the demo since I never really used iWork in any form. I do like pages and keynote, but numbers is a joke - but so is Excel in Office Mac 08. I really really hope the next Office Mac puts Excel on the same level, code for code, as the Windows version. I really hate having to Boot Camp into Windows just to use Excel. Now that Picasa is on Mac, I'm soooooooo close to completely moving away from Windows (other than PC Gaming which I rarely do anymore given my time constraints with full time work and grad school and the abysmal quality of gaming these days.)
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Best of luck to you. I spent some time last year going through a similar transition trying to get off my work PC and moving that to a Mac.

I ended up being successful and oh so happy.😀
 
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