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Fan Control

Is it likely that this update will eliminate the need to use the smcfancontrol app that so many have recommended to combat the RSS? Or would you continue to use it as well???
 
Fiveos22 said:
Is that the verdict on the screw issue?
Yes, it is. The screw has always been there. I will say that ours is no longer flush like it was at first. Brushing your hand over it means you feel the screw whereas in May we could not. So, the screw may be more noticeable if this is true for others, as well. I could see it being very annoying for some.
 
Let's put this to sleep (no pun intended)... my MacBook has a screw in the middle since day one and has never been in service. It's a week 26 MacBook.
 

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What about MBPs?

Anybody have a sense of whether this update will work for the MBP's? And if not, why Apple decided to ignore the exact same issue on their pro line?
 
I just installed the update and coreduotemp & Istat now say my temps are running in the mid 50's; before update they said 20's(which I didn't believe). Never had the RSD problem; fans don't seem any louder/more active than before the update.
 
JAT said:
Yes, it is. The screw has always been there. I will say that ours is no longer flush like it was at first. Brushing your hand over it means you feel the screw whereas in May we could not. So, the screw may be more noticeable if this is true for others, as well. I could see it being very annoying for some.

Just got my mabook back from getting its optical drive replaced and the service centre have also replaced the heat sink (i never mentioned RSS at all so not sure why they did it). I have noticed the central screw is no longer flush now. not a huge problem but does this mean the new heatsink causes the screw to stick out a bit?

riko
 
drlunanerd said:
Isn't everyone assuming here that the root problem is a heatsink issue? Has Apple ever announced that it was?
Officially, no.

If you can believe this post, then yes, it was announced to Apple's service providers. These pictures show the difference between designs of the two heatsinks.
 
Shagrat said:
Think you're imagining it. Have updated my MB and i still can't hear the fan in normal usage. I expect it will kick in at some time when it decides things are getting a bit hot.

The way I was able to make my fans kick in was to run the rss tester from http://www.macbookrandomshutdown.com/
Download and run the tester and it maxes out CPU cycles, before my mac would just shut off within 1-2 sec. Now the fans come on.

The rss tester:
http://www.macbookrandomshutdown.com/utils/macbookrss.dmg

-B
 
I had no problems before update, and no problems now. I don't see a change in the temp.

I'm grateful that I haven't had any problems with my MB, although I did have a couple kernel panics.
 
Good: Notebook is only 30° C
Bad: Fan blasting @ 6KRPM (really unnecessary, can't even use this in class without disturbing the rest of the people in there)
 
YoNeX said:
Good: Notebook is only 30° C
Bad: Fan blasting @ 6KRPM (really unnecessary, can't even use this in class without disturbing the rest of the people in there)
Your fans always blast at 6Krpm? That doesn't sound right. Have you tried resetting the PRAM?
 
Core Duo Temp reports 60°C (=140°F = 333K) constantly. Even during the stress test when I heard the fans all the time, still exactly the same temperature. Maybe someone else is having this.
 
YoNeX said:
Good: Notebook is only 30° C
Bad: Fan blasting @ 6KRPM (really unnecessary, can't even use this in class without disturbing the rest of the people in there)

HOw do you know your fan speed? I wanna see those too...
 
See below. And no, I didn't use smcFanControl to set it to 6K. Can't even use it to lower the speed.
 

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kainjow said:
After applying the update, it seems like it's running cooler. I'm getting 53-54C now, when normally it's 58-59.

My fan is running ALOT, as in most of the time now whereas before it only came on when it really was apparent that the laptop was getting hot on the bottom...hmmm:confused:
 
dlastmango said:
i have a week 26 white 2.0 MB. it has a screw on the bottom in the dead center. it was never serviced.

Dunno what week it is, but I got it in October. I got screwed too, right in the middle right out of the box. Hasn't been serviced. As I said though, it was nice and quiet before the firmware update...

Can anyone show a pic of a MB without the center screw? lol
 
'fixed' for me.

ironically the DAY they released the update.my macbook started shutting down intermittingly..

instaleld it..works fine so far.as for the fans..they still go 'nuts' when i run a few videos on youtube..is THAT normal?

like they get pretty loud ugh
 
'fixed' for me.

ironically the DAY they released the update.my macbook started shutting down intermittingly..

instaleld it..works fine so far.as for the fans..they still go 'nuts' when i run a few videos on youtube..is THAT normal?

like they get pretty loud ugh

The loud fan ISN'T normal, and it's something I've been fighting about with Apple ever since I bought this POS machine a day after they were released. I'm on my second one now (the first one was replaced because it was broken right out of the box), and this one sounds like a jet airplane getting ready for take off, with the turbines winding up and down.

What particularly makes me upset is that we've got two MacBooks in my family, mine and my wife's, and hers is completely silent. When the fan does kick in on her machine, it makes a nice "whoosh" sound of air being pushed, and nothing else. Mine make this whiney noise coming from the fan itself, so loud you can't even heard the "whoosh" of air being moved.

My MacBook has already been in AppleCare once for a fan replacement, as well as the heat-sink replacement. I had hoped this new firmware would slow the darned fan down, but nope--it's still buzzing away like an electric razor.

I've owned five Apple laptops prior to this one (dating back to a PowerBook 520), and this MacBook is by far the worst one of the bunch. Worse even than my "flaming" PowerBook 5300 (which still works and doesn't make a peep).
 
I'm pretty sure readings of 15C-19C are incorrect. I've NEVER seen or heard of modern laptop/desktop CPUs running that cool.

I'm sure you're correct but I'm confused as to what results to believe.

I'm now using istat Pro, Temperature Monitor and Core2Duotemp. All are saying the same thing.

See the screen grab below.

If I put the machine under stress it does go up to 50 or 60 degrees but generally, it's saying around 21 when idle.
 

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I'm sure you're correct but I'm confused as to what results to believe.

I'm now using istat Pro, Temperature Monitor and Core2Duotemp. All are saying the same thing.

See the screen grab below.

If I put the machine under stress it does go up to 50 or 60 degrees but generally, it's saying around 21 when idle.


Mine used to get stuck at low temperatures like that. It's a glitch in the CPU's measuring stuff.

Download the latest version of smcFanControl. It has a temperature reading, but uses a sensor on the logic board rather than the one on/in the CPU. I get a more accurate temperature now. With my minimum fan speed at 2500rpm, I get idle of around 46ºC. and gets up to about 77/78ºC when pushed, but of the course the fan kicks in then and keeps it in check.

I'm also curious about some people likening the fan in the MB to a jet engine. As mine spins up, i can hear a faint whine that sounds a bit like a jet engine, but as it gets faster, all I hear is the 'woosh' of air.:confused:
 
Damn!

I took mine to get repaired for this issue a week ago. The repair shop are very slow and I will only get it back on Tuesday this week. And by the sounds of it this update could have solved the job.

Grrrr...
 
I got 2 MacBooks for my business and i just got them shipped to me the other day, i installed the SMC Firmware update and tested the machine under the core-duo test for 45 minutes and nothing.

I did notice the fan was going like a jet engine and was waitin for the macbook to lunch off the desk but that never happend

when checked the temp before the test it was 40 C ... during the test it was 78 C ... after the test it went down to 56 C and it stayed like that for 45 minutes on idel before it went down to 45 C

how do i know if the heat sink on my MacBooks have been replaces or not, they were both costom orderd MBs and i did wait 1 month to get them from apple website
 
how do i know if the heat sink on my MacBooks have been replaces or not, they were both costom orderd MBs and i did wait 1 month to get them from apple website
I don't think Apple changed their assembly line until week 35. If the serial number of your Mac is less than 4H635, then I don't think it has the new heatsink.
 
Reset PRAM, apparently that broke CoreDuoTemp sensor because mine is reading 12°C, iStatPro is reading 12° C as well, but smcFanControl is reading 72° C. Week 27 MacBook by the way. So my suggestion is, if your MacBook has no issues or you are fine with how it is running right now, DO NOT UPGRADE THE FIRMWARE.
 
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