Apple Releases macOS Big Sur 11.2.2 to Prevent MacBooks From Being Damaged by Third-Party Non-Compliant Docks

[MauiPa]

Maybe they should work on major bug like crappy WiFi?

my wifi works great, so when you say crappy wifi, is this a specific issue on a specific model? I wouldn't bother, but there are trolls who just make random stupid complaints that are just trying to create a false narrative. I'm not saying you are one at all, but your comment would be significantly more meaningful with more information. I have a 2014 MBP 15, and have zero issues. We have google fiber and the latest mesh routers. wifi was crappy until the routers were upgraded, but it was crappy for Windows and MAC devices, so clearly not a BigSur issue

there are in fact a lot of reason for "crappy wifi" that have nothing to do with BigSur, such as interference from radio waves, overcrowded channels, too many devices, outdated and overwhelmed routers (and that is assuming you already know about distance and obstacles, because I am also assuming that you are saying that wifi on BigSur is not up to standard and you don't just have crappy wifi for other reasons completely).

 

[ZipZap]

This is obfuscation from Apple. It appears only Apple wants to be able to sell you a dock. Or approved companies where they get a kickback. I dont need Apple protecting me from this situation.

 

[jaredwsmith]

11.2.2 also seems to resolve an issue where changing the accent color in System Preferences causes the desktop (including the Dock) to become unresponsive.

 

[centauratlas]

Available for the "late 2013 MBP 15". So it seems like other fixes, but who knows without more digging.

 

[MauiPa]

This is obfuscation from Apple. It appears only Apple wants to be able to sell you a dock. Or approved companies where they get a kickback. I dont need Apple protecting me from this situation.

I'm pretty sure you are not correct. Electronics can be damaged by crappy devices, there is a pretty long history of this. Now the fact that Apple is preventing damage for "non-compliant third party" docks completely disproves you comment. The real question is what is non-compliant about these docks and what harm can they bring to other devices? Are they non compliant to Thunderbolt/USB standards, then why are they even being sold?

 

[ArPe]

This is obfuscation from Apple. It appears only Apple wants to be able to sell you a dock. Or approved companies where they get a kickback. I dont need Apple protecting me from this situation.

It’s a bug not an conspiracy.

Besides, certification for USB and TB devices comes from Intel.

 

[Apple_Robert]

This is obfuscation from Apple. It appears only Apple wants to be able to sell you a dock. Or approved companies where they get a kickback. I dont need Apple protecting me from this situation.

There is zero evidence to support your statement.

 

[mi7chy]

I'm pretty sure you are not correct. Electronics can be damaged by crappy devices, there is a pretty long history of this. Now the fact that Apple is preventing damage for "non-compliant third party" docks completely disproves you comment. The real question is what is non-compliant about these docks and what harm can they bring to other devices? Are they non compliant to Thunderbolt/USB standards, then why are they even being sold?

But if those USB-C hubs work on non-Apple devices then how is it an issue with the accessory? For example, Raspberry Pi foundation did the correct thing by fixing the USB-C issue on early Raspberry Pi 4 instead of black listing accessories.

https://www.theregister.com/2020/02/21/pi_4_fixed/

 

[Jordan Klein]

I'm at the point where I just don't see the reason of upgrading to a new macOS (and dealing with the constant bugs, incompatibilities, and 3rd party devs playing catch up for a year) unless you're forced to with new hardware

I bought a 2020 27" iMac a few months ago. Unfortunately for me, it came pre-loaded with Catalina. So it was either the POS Catalina, or somewhat POS Big Sur. I'd *MUCH* rather had the choice of sticking with Mojave.

 

[Nikelectric]

Same....

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[Kabeyun]

On the other end of the cable, TB3 was broken - for some - under 11.2 and was fixed by 11.2.1, but ironically 11.2.1 broke 4K monitor detection-on-wake when using a USB-C cable. Anyone know if 11.2.2 fixes this? Apple allegedly knows about the bug.

 

[Delta-NC]

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[votdfak]

my wifi works great, so when you say crappy wifi, is this a specific issue on a specific model? I wouldn't bother, but there are trolls who just make random stupid complaints that are just trying to create a false narrative. I'm not saying you are one at all, but your comment would be significantly more meaningful with more information. I have a 2014 MBP 15, and have zero issues. We have google fiber and the latest mesh routers. wifi was crappy until the routers were upgraded, but it was crappy for Windows and MAC devices, so clearly not a BigSur issue

there are in fact a lot of reason for "crappy wifi" that have nothing to do with BigSur, such as interference from radio waves, overcrowded channels, too many devices, outdated and overwhelmed routers (and that is assuming you already know about distance and obstacles, because I am also assuming that you are saying that wifi on BigSur is not up to standard and you don't just have crappy wifi for other reasons completely).

It has everything to do with BigSur, no issues whatsoever on previous macOS releases. Specific model is in my sig, if you care to take a look. Have some respect for fellow members here pls.

 

[Not Sure ☠️]

Give us ports back so we don't need hubs and dongles in the first place.

I personally like having only one cable to plug in, especially bouncing between home office, and office. I get why some people want additional ports, but what about those who don't need those, but want others?

Coming from the PC world to the TB3/USB-C world in 2016 with the MBP, I thought I'd hate it, but it's forced docks/hubs to really mature and be pretty awesome. Especially compared to the old Dell/Lenovo docks.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

So, promise us you won't come back here and complain when you get hacked for the lack of a security update, OK? Just like Linux, most MacOS updates usually have security updates, although they rarely call them out in the release notes.

Mojave is still receiving security updates.

 

[Cristim74]

On the other end of the cable, TB3 was broken - for some - under 11.2 and was fixed by 11.2.1, but ironically 11.2.1 broke 4K monitor detection-on-wake when using a USB-C cable. Anyone know if 11.2.2 fixes this? Apple allegedly knows about the bug.

Now I understand why I haven't been able to use my Caldigit TS3+ dock lately. I have a 27" 4k Dell monitor connected to it and now when I connect my 2017 15" MBP to it, the monitors turns on and then it goes into standby mode. No mater how many times I unplug it and plug it back in I can't make it to work. I thought the dock broke down. Currently installing 11.2.2 to see if it fixes the issue. Will report back.

 

[falkon-engine]

Post circa 1998: “Give us back the floppy drive and SCSI ports so that we don’t need hubs and dongles in the first place.”

USB-A and Thunderbolt 2 are ports of the past. The USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 connector can do literally everything that the old ports did, but with an industry standard connection.

Not too mention there are other uses for hubs (eg. docking stations) which wouldn’t be “solved” by adding in legacy ports.

Usb-a is not dead yet, nor is hdmi/DisplayPort or sd-cards or rj45. While true that thunderbolt can encapsulate all of these technologies over one cable, the truth of the matter is, people probably wouldn’t have purchased those faulty hubs/docks if the MacBooks had the relevant ports in the first instance.

 

[techfreak23]

Was this issue present in Catalina as well? I got an intel Mac mini 3 weeks ago, but it literally fried in just under two weeks. Started randomly kernel panicking last Monday. Tried to restore it and that didn't work. Updated to Big Sur and that also didn't work. Then it got stuck in a boot loop. I don't have a Service provider in my area anymore, so I wasn't able to send it in to get diagnosed. Ended up having to just return it. I was using a Targus 4-port USB-A USB-C hub that I thought might be the root, but I won't know until I get my new mini next week. Hopefully the same thing doesn't happen...

 

[Freeangel1]

Big Sur the Windows VISTA or 2021!!

 

[FilmIndustryGuy]

this is how mine got fried after connecting it to a 65w RavPower hub

 

[Freeangel1]

Let me Guess????????
This update fixes excessive SSD writes on M1 Macs? or NO

 

[falkon-engine]

It’s a bug not an conspiracy.

Besides, certification for USB and TB devices comes from Intel.

Intel certifies thunderbolt not usb devices. The usb-if is for usb, and as far as I’m aware, not all usb devices receive any certification.

 

[Populus]

Does anyone know if this release fixes something about the high SSD degradation issue?

 

[Tev11]

Safari Technology Preview 121 has also been released.

 

[ArPe]

Intel certifies thunderbolt not usb devices. The usb-if is for usb, and as far as I’m aware, not all usb devices receive any certification.

You know we are talking about TB docks with through USB C connector so don’t be a fuss pot 😛😝