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So, I'm a bit confused here. The 12.2.1 update is labeled as resolving the BT issue on Intel based Macs. I thought people were having the same issue on M1 Macs, but Apple doesn't mention it in the release notes. Also, I hear mention of a Wifi bug. So, is the BT on Intel, and wifi is on M1, or are both on both Mac platforms ?
Bingo. I mentioned it in one of the first posts here, but I’ve got BT issues on my M1 MBP. No mention that it’s been addressed, and I continue to have BT sues with my Apple Magic Trackpad.
 
This comparison between macOS and Windows is pointless. People should just be using what works better for them. There are no real differences in performance between the two OSes apart from games of course that are not optimized for the Mac. (if they even exist on the platform).
macOS works for me better and I love the integration that Apple is offering with its ecosystem. This kind of functionality and integration is not possible elsewhere. Some people do care about that while others don't.
People complain about the software quality of Apple and they should be if they are not satisfied, but for me what's important is the number of features I daily use that are only possible on macOS/Apple ecosystem. These features work great and I wouldn't want to miss them.
Simple things like clipboard sharing, photo to text, SMS send and receive on all Apple devices, etc..There also other things like Tags on Finder, Spotlight search (which is really great), the extensions platform and the way the OS deals with apps. Time Machine works also very well. Of course it could be better, but if you have a look at other platforms, they have nothing similar.
Overall, macOS offers a very well thought user experience, that is even better if someone is heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. It's not for everyone but that's ok.
 
Folks, after updating did your menu bar disappear? I have tried restarting. Nothing will bring it back
 
Hi everyone, since the update I keep having the message “disk full” when I copy something, but I have 100GB available, is it normal ?
 
Still not consistently connecting to wifi immediately after sleep. Also delays after a link it clicked going to a website, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.
 
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Rather concerning a machine I just updated needed another 1.6GB update today.

I will say it again, stop these yearly updates of Mac OS and give us a great operating system without leaky memory, with optimised apps and as few bugs as possible.
 
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Folks, after updating did your menu bar disappear? I have tried restarting. Nothing will bring it back
Everything was fine here on my late 2015, 27" iMac. Sounds like some of the problems here are potentially isolated to the particular setup. One thing I will suggest is, "IF there is a full installer" for macOS 12.2.1 that can be downloaded. Try running that if the update has problems, and a reboot doesn't fix it. Often times a reinstall can fix issues. I see this suggestion quite a bit on well documented troubleshooting guides.
 
I'm still having the Bluetooth issue after the 12.2.1 update. BT kills my battery and causes my 15in Macbook Pro (Late 2018) to never sleep. I enjoyed the last BT stack used in previous versions of MacOS. This new one is terrible.
2022-02-12 05:24:16 -0700 Sleep Entering Sleep state due to 'Clamshell Sleep':TCPKeepAlive=active Using Batt (Charge:0%) 9 secs
2022-02-12 05:24:25 -0700 DarkWake DarkWake from Normal Sleep [CDN] : due to EC.Bluetooth/Maintenance Using BATT (Charge:0%) 15 secs
2022-02-12 05:24:40 -0700 Sleep Entering Sleep state due to 'Maintenance Sleep':TCPKeepAlive=active Using Batt (Charge:0%) 7 secs
2022-02-12 05:24:47 -0700 Wake Wake from Normal Sleep [CDNVA] : due to EC.Bluetooth/HID Activity Using BATT (Charge:0%) 20 secs
2022-02-12 05:25:22 -0700 Sleep Entering Sleep state due to 'Clamshell Sleep':TCPKeepAlive=active Using Batt (Charge:0%)
 
The two year cycle can give the team a breathing room to focus on optimizing and fixing bugs. Right now, they have to come up with new features on a yearly basis so Craig can show it every year in WWDC. Maybe it’s time to rethink the priorities. The dog and pony show can only go so far when the actual delivery is missing the pieces.
Its a frikin computer, save the dog and pony show for iPhones. We probably don't need a new macOS for 4 years these days. No one I know wants to update their computer every year and no one I know even cares about the New things released in the last 4 or 5 years.

How about this:

1. Apple spend 2 or 3 years making all of your Apps work, especially looking at Safari.
2. Apple spend 2 or 3 years fixing bugs in macOS, especially looking at Time Machine and Darwin.
3. Apple spend 2 or 3 years improving software compatibility with standards, both hardware and software.
4. Apple spend 2 or 3 years fixing your horrible RF (WiFi and Bluetooth.)
 
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How is Apple developing its software? Are they doing this at the campus or from home?
Probably not relevant to whether or not the software has issues. What matters most is that the design is thought through (which can be easier from a non-office setting), that the testing is also thought out and done properly, and that pressure to release too early is resisted. Here, the software was presumably not tested for battery drain in this scenario (which suggests desk use/non-mobile devices). If developers/testers were commuting or working from coffee shops, it might have shown up earlier as a side effect, but otherwise it would need to be explicitly included in the testing plan (whether on campus or remote). Hopefully, Apple has changed this.

One effect of covid where I am has been that we are losing people from the team at very short notice and at higher rates than usual. Working remotely helps (staff may not be well enough to come in to the office, but can sometimes still work remotely), but we are still needing to continually replan/cover. That can be very disruptive to delivery. I imagine Apple is also suffering from this.
 
Our team at my job is now also 100% WFH and I'll tell ya, Microsoft Teams (or whatever IM Service you use) is no replacement for the random watercoolor talk that'd happen randomly every day. You find so much more about what's going on when people are 'in it' and need to 'step away' for a moment. Then a random happenstance with that buddy from the other team, also stumped on some issue. You both vent quickly and you both inadvertently help each other out while also quickly understanding a human. It's those little interactions that can't replaced with a messaging service that's always there at your fingertips.

I guarantee you all that Apple is also suffering from missing out on these seemingly small but large moments. These experiences are the hidden and often forgotten times that help advance ideas and solve problems. Sounds lame to say or read back, but you really do miss out on a lot when you remove the random GOOD human interactions (you can keep the rage driving and ignorant folk at the coffee shop ?).

I for one am looking forward to sticking with Monterey for a while. Mac's OS's historically (and arguably) haven't been stable until a .4 or .5 update, and I've always been one to just jump on board to the latest OS. I'm probably going to just look at running anything new in a VM at least until a .2 or .3 version is released.
 
Its a frikin computer, save the dog and pony show for iPhones. We probably don't need a new macOS for 4 years these days. No one I know wants to update their computer every year and no one I know even cares about the New things released in the last 4 or 5 years.

How about this:

1. Apple spend 2 or 3 years making all of your Apps work, especially looking at Safari.
2. Apple spend 2 or 3 years fixing bugs in macOS, especially looking at Time Machine and Darwin.
3. Apple spend 2 or 3 years improving software compatibility with standards, both hardware and software.
4. Apple spend 2 or 3 years fixing your horrible RF (WiFi and Bluetooth.)

Unfortunately this is not gonna happen. It's obvious for years that MacOS is not in Apple's focus anymore, apart from exciting™ new© features®. Average user wants them.
 
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I for one am looking forward to sticking with Monterey for a while. Mac's OS's historically (and arguably) haven't been stable until a .4 or .5 update, and I've always been one to just jump on board to the latest OS. I'm probably going to just look at running anything new in a VM at least until a .2 or .3 version is released.

I've been an early adopter from Jaguar or Panther, and OS X used to be completely fine for me about .2 update back then. From Mojave on, I wait for next version to come out to upgrade to previous (completely missed Catalina tho, it was of no use for me).
 
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I for one am looking forward to sticking with Monterey for a while.
I too. My 2017 iMac came with Mojave and I retained that as long as I could. New software (Office365, TurboTax Desktop) recently came out that did not support Mojave and I had to upgrade. I skipped both Catalina and Big Sur going directly to Monterey v12.1, now on v12.2. I hope to do the same with Monterey, or my next iMac replacement and whatever the current macOS is. I’d like to get another 27” iMac, but with Apple silicon, sometime in 2022-2023.
 
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I too. My 2017 iMac came with Mojave and I retained that as long as I could. New software (Office365, TurboTax Desktop) recently came out that did not support Mojave and I had to upgrade. I skipped both Catalina and Big Sur going directly to Monterey v12.1, now on v12.2. I hope to do the same with Monterey, or my next iMac replacement and whatever the current macOS is. I’d like to get another 27” iMac, but with Apple silicon, sometime in 2022-2023.
Not that I regret moving from Big Sur to Monterey, but I do remember there being less issues than what I’m currently experiencing. I still have my 2010 MBP with SL! ?

Seeing that developers are still figuring out how to optimize their apps for Apple Silicon, I’d think it’s safe to assume that means Monterey will be safe for some time. At least a couple years lol
 
I too. My 2017 iMac came with Mojave and I retained that as long as I could. New software (Office365, TurboTax Desktop) recently came out that did not support Mojave and I had to upgrade. I skipped both Catalina and Big Sur going directly to Monterey v12.1, now on v12.2. I hope to do the same with Monterey, or my next iMac replacement and whatever the current macOS is. I’d like to get another 27” iMac, but with Apple silicon, sometime in 2022-2023.

I had a lot of problems with Big Sur when it came out but I have been running it since last summer and it's been fine. It's more stable than Monterey for me. I am still running Mojave on my 2015 MacBook Pro and that has been the most stable OS for me since High Sierra.
 
I've been a Mac users since 2010 when I bought my Late 09 iMac straight from the Apple Store (and I still have it to this day). That thing out of the box came pre-installed with Snow Leopard which is one of the most fondly remembered OS's Apple has ever put out.

Fast forward to today and see what a massive cluster Monterey is, it might be... No it is the worst iteration of MacOS to date. I pretty much refuse to install it on any of my Macs (and there are quite a few in my household) because of how bad it is. I recently wiped my 2015 15" MBP and put it on Catalina for now with an option for Big Sur because on Monterey there was too many glitches and lags for my tastes. It also ran through battery like crazy even with a brand new battery installed straight from Apple. I have also heard horror stories about Monterey and M1 Macs.... No thanks. Sticking with Big Sur on my MBA until these issues are ironed out.
 
Our team at my job is now also 100% WFH and I'll tell ya, Microsoft Teams (or whatever IM Service you use) is no replacement for the random watercoolor talk that'd happen randomly every day. You find so much more about what's going on when people are 'in it' and need to 'step away' for a moment. Then a random happenstance with that buddy from the other team, also stumped on some issue. You both vent quickly and you both inadvertently help each other out while also quickly understanding a human. It's those little interactions that can't replaced with a messaging service that's always there at your fingertips.

I guarantee you all that Apple is also suffering from missing out on these seemingly small but large moments. These experiences are the hidden and often forgotten times that help advance ideas and solve problems. Sounds lame to say or read back, but you really do miss out on a lot when you remove the random GOOD human interactions (you can keep the rage driving and ignorant folk at the coffee shop ?).

I for one am looking forward to sticking with Monterey for a while. Mac's OS's historically (and arguably) haven't been stable until a .4 or .5 update, and I've always been one to just jump on board to the latest OS. I'm probably going to just look at running anything new in a VM at least until a .2 or .3 version is released.
That is not what is going on. Catalina suffered from major issues that I got confirmed from Apple themself was an OS issue and not my computer issue related to kernel panics. I had major problems with Leopard and Lion too. And if your development organization doesn't have open dialog and documentation to the point where you NEED to depend on those "water cooler" moments to ship quality software, something else is wrong. Since working remote our software has actually gotten far more stable and better quality than before.
 
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Hmmm…

Before the download it said it would be 1.04GB, but during the download it said it would be 1.86GB.

I'm not sure why. ?
 
12.2.1 update still not available on my Mini. Why?! It showed up 2 days ago on both my iMac and MBA.

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