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Apple Releases Mail Update for Mavericks to Address Gmail Issues
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After trying Airmail for the first time this week, I don't think I'm going back to Mavericks Mail
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Interestingly, after doing the update (to build 1822) I occasionally see phantom activity barber poles:
Some "animate", some are static. They tend to go away after a while, or when you resize the activity window.
Interestingly, after doing the update (to build 1822) I occasionally see phantom activity barber poles:
Some "animate", some are static. They tend to go away after a while, or when you resize the activity window.
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Still getting 2 notifications of every email.
Anyone else experiencing this? I was hoping this update would fix it.
Anyone else experiencing this? I was hoping this update would fix it.
Mac Mail has a native importer built right in:
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Thanks I know this and have that set on my laptop. Tell me how I get out of force quitting when I've got a half a dozen clients hounding me on a deadline and my Mail has been stuck with the spinning wheel for an hour...
I have 1822 also.
Also does this fix the other issue others were having that it download all the mail and does not stay on the server.
One of the previous posters mentioned that Apple Mail has a built-in importer. If that doesn't work, for what ever reason (and it didn't when I went from Opera Mail to Apple Mail), then Emailchemy is probably your best solution.
Regardless of Apple vs Gmail incompetence, this is something you control, not Apple.
Go to your Gmail page in a web browser, choose settings, then choose labels.
Essentially the first group of labels, the "System labels" are the equivalent of Smart Mailboxes --- they are synthetically generated folders that an IMAP user may or may not wish to view through their IMAP mail viewer.
If you DO wish to view any of these synthetic mailboxes, click the "Show in IMAP" checkbox --- in your case, in particular, click that checkbox for the "All Mail" synthetic mailbox. Whether this is checked or not is very much a matter of choice. Contrary to what people claimed at the start of the Gmail/Mavericks disaster, I do not believe ANYTHING depends on the setting of this label apart from what I have claimed --- it does (or does not) display an "All Mail" mailbox, which you may (or may not) want to see in Apple Mail.
More significant is that life is much easier if
(a) the Sent/Drafts/Spam/Trash synthetic mailboxes are all checked AND
(b) Apple Mail is hooked up to use these particular Gmail mailboxes for these particular tasks. Before 10.9 OSX did NOT hook these up correctly (neither did iOS). An individual COULD have hooked them up correctly if they knew what they were doing --- but obviously most people did not have any reason to know how and why to do this.
10.9 DOES hook them up correctly. (I'd guess iOS7 does as well, but I haven't yet tested that.)
What this means in practice is that life is much easier if in Apple Mail you destroy and recreate every Gmail account you use.
For each such account
(a) make sure that EVERYTHING that you care about, associated with the account, is stored on Gmail servers --- NOTHING in an "On My Mac" folder
(b) in Mail.app destroy the account (which will probably lead to a detour into Preferences to destroy the account)
(c) in Mail.app create a new account of type Google with the same email address+password as before. Unlike in 10.8 and earlier, Mail will assume a whole lot of defaults (which are correct, unless you have really weird needs) and will not ask more questions --- it will just set things up.
(d) Now wait for all your mail to get pulled in again --- it helps to open the Activity Windows cmd-opt-0 --- to keep track of that.
(e) when all mail is in, repair the damage of the past by moving mail from the PREVIOUS (non-Gmail synched) deleted/spam/junk/sent mailboxes to the new Gmail synched ones.
If you don't understand what I'm talking about here, wait for someone who has more time than me to create an article with pictures and suchlike. You will not destroy any mail by following the instructions I've given above --- but you WILL THINK you have destroyed mail if you don't understand my point about where Mail.app is CURRENTLY storing its deleted/spam/junk/sent mail, as opposed to where Gmail wants it stored.
Also I don't sync notes/calendar/contacts/anything else on any of my Gmail accounts so if you do, I have no idea of the consequences to those features of deleting then recreating your Gmail account on Mavericks.
Finally, if you DO search for better instructions (with pictures etc) of what I am talking about, be sure that whatever you read is 10.9 appropriate (and written by someone who appears to know WTF they are talking about). There are plenty of such pages from the past about how to set things up which are NOT appropriate for the new world. The new world has Apple trying very hard to do things Google's way (while still working as a user would expect). It makes no sense to fight this; you might as well adapt to it.
Apple might not fix the problem, more likely they'll give lip service in order to stay true to Steve Jobs hatred and threats against Google. This is but one of a vast number of examples year after year that reveal how stubborn, hypocritical, and fearful of Google, Apple is.
Sadly this is a massive waste of time, it casts a pall over Apple, the very company that is capable of so much more. I fully understand the world class work Apple is capable of. It's why I bother to remain a customer during these times during which great greed and fierce legal assaults are shaping Apples approach to business.
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I agree, Airmail is terrific.
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You are supposed to click on the Archive button in Mail (or its keyboard shortcut) to archive your email. If you click the delete button or the trash can, it actually deletes the email now like it is supposed to do.
If you don't see the Archive button in Mail on your toolbar, just hover over the tool bar, right click and choose customize toolbar. Then drag the Archive button into your toolbar.
Mavericks made Mail actually work with Gmail like it was supposed to and it does it with default settings which is great. The issues in Mavericks were occurring for people who did workarounds to fix Mountain Lion's broken Gmail support.
I am still using ML. No desire for any of Apple's half baked freeware
Gmail works well for me. It's my throw away address. Tons of mail each day. No issues.
Same here. The update didn't fix the issues, new emails taking forever to show up and Mail not staying in sync with my email. Airmail is awesome.
Still broken
This 'update' does not fix the problem where if you use Mailbox app on iOS for 'inbox zero' - email still appear in your inbox. You have to manually archive them later.
It's as if with every update Apple does now they go backwards. My 5s crashes more than my 4s. Mavericks has more issues than Mountain Lion. Mountain Lion had more issues then Lion. Etc...
These are all first world problems and I'm certainly not switching to windows but I's driving me crazy!!!!
This 'update' does not fix the problem where if you use Mailbox app on iOS for 'inbox zero' - email still appear in your inbox. You have to manually archive them later.
It's as if with every update Apple does now they go backwards. My 5s crashes more than my 4s. Mavericks has more issues than Mountain Lion. Mountain Lion had more issues then Lion. Etc...
These are all first world problems and I'm certainly not switching to windows but I's driving me crazy!!!!
No, it is not just Apple, it is Apple OSX 10.9. Mountain Lion worked great, IOS 6 and IOS7 work great, iPad and iPhone work great. It is just this one piece of crap code that does not work. They took something that was not broken, they broke it, then said they fixed it and then didn't fix it. This is not a Google problem, this is an Apple OSX problem.
I should add after this rant that Mail is still not syncing properly. Everything that I have read/filed on my iOS devices shows up as unread in Mail and I have to go thru it all again. The opposite is not true. This is for my main gmail account. Some of my other accounts that I use for volunteer work have since 10.9 not even shown new messages. Not sure yet if that is happening after the patch (I can't call it a fix).
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And yet I have never, ever, ever, had any trouble getting Outlook.com mail. >_>
I'm having issues with Maverics mail and iCloud.com email syncing. I get a message on my phone but it takes up to 10 minutes to load on my Mac. I have the preferences set to automatic but have also tried setting it to check every 5 minutes with no better success. Any thoughts??
Why are some people blaming this one on Google/Gmail?
AFAICT everything worked and works fine in Mountain Lion.
AFAICT everything worked and works fine in Mountain Lion.