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Apple Releases New Big Sur and Catalina Safari 15.1 Betas for Developers With Restored Tab Design

I’ve been using Safari 15 on Big Sur and have enjoyed the new tab design, just like I enjoy the bottom tab bar on Safari in iOS 15. At least they have left the compact option where I can still get the website color specific tab and toolbar menu areas.
 
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OS stuff isn’t hard, it’s just that C has no parameter names in the functions:

status=IORegistryEntryCreateCFProperties( service,&properties,kCFAllocatorDefault,kNilOptions );

It gets confusing. Or you pass the wrong variable into a parameter.

The Swift language fixes all of this, but it doesn’t help when 90% of your code needs to be ported.

Now if you excuse me, I’m going to go play Apple Arcade. :)
 
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I think Apple took a lot of blowback on that stupid change. I hope they think twice before implementing such a stupid change in the future. I’m also surprised the beta testers didn’t give them hell about it over the summer. I guess they are more fan club than anything…
 
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w5jck said:
I think Apple took a lot of blowback on that stupid change. I hope they think twice before implementing such a stupid change in the future. I’m also surprised the beta testers didn’t give them hell about it over the summer. I guess they are more fan club than anything…
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I think a ton of people stayed away from the betas this time around. I know I did, I usually try them when they go public, but the bad press around these updates and the whole CSAM thing really put me off.
 
w5jck said:
I think Apple took a lot of blowback on that stupid change. I hope they think twice before implementing such a stupid change in the future. I’m also surprised the beta testers didn’t give them hell about it over the summer. I guess they are more fan club than anything…
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I expect beta testers did give them hell. I remember Apple was relatively quick at bringing back the separate tab bar.

Now, they've gone back to the more logical iOS 14-like UI for the separate tab bar. That's too quick to have just been response to feedback from non-beta iOS 15 users. I expect Apple just prioritized bug fixes for the official iOS 15 release and just delayed yet another Safari UI reversion to 15.1.
 
I actually liked the betas ”split” design, especially the coloured tabs. Giving the compact option a go for now to see whether I can get used to the address bar being integrated with the tabs.

Safaris now in a weird state where you have compact and split tab displays that are very different style wise from one another. I’d go so far to say you could confuse them as two different browsers if you didn’t know better due to how different tabs look. It’ll be interesting to see if and how Apple looks to unify those options in terms of visual design.
 
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Apple needs to roll SIA (Sign In With Apple) and HME (Hide My Email) into the Passwords UI and park it all in Safari Preferences on Mac and in Settings Passwords in iOS.

There is so much overlap of these three features having to do with authentication that it’s insane the way they are balkanized and take so many steps to go from one to the other and back.

Of course as a Catalina user on my 2012 Mac I hope this feature (Hide My Email) in any form will be rolled into a security upgrade just as the recent changes to the Passwords feature in Safari Preferences have been.)
 
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MacRumors said:


Following in the footsteps of the macOS Monterey release candidate seeded earlier this week, Apple has released a fourth beta version of Safari 15.1 for macOS Big Sur and Catalina to developers that restores the previous tab design that was in place prior to Safari 15.
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Does Safari 15.1 support adding new bookmarks on a M1 chip device without crashing, or is that feature going to be permanent?
 
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newbmacuser2021 said:
I don’t know why I’m on MacRumors responding to this, but here we go:

Steve Jobs developed NeXT.

Steve Jobs died in 2011.

Apple had to license various things for Safari, because Steve Jobs died.

www.chromium.org

The Chromium Projects

Home of the Chromium Open Source Project
www.chromium.org www.chromium.org

If you think you can fix it, go write the fix and sell it to Apple.
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newbmacuser2021 said:
OS stuff isn’t hard, it’s just that C has no parameter names in the functions:

status=IORegistryEntryCreateCFProperties( service,&properties,kCFAllocatorDefault,kNilOptions );

It gets confusing. Or you pass the wrong variable into a parameter.

The Swift language fixes all of this, but it doesn’t help when 90% of your code needs to be ported.

Now if you excuse me, I’m going to go play Apple Arcade. :)
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You seem to have a very different discussion here than everyone else...
 
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PsykX said:
I was SO GLAD they brought back the current design.
I do UX myself (part-time job let's say) and I don't know what they were thinking.
I was this close to switch to another browser. ??
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I actually really like both the simplified design for tabs and the blended chrome in Safari 15.0. They're fantastic in dark mode and have a really clean look, distracting less from web content.

I hope it's at least going to be kept as an option in future updates? (I don't use the "compact" mode because I need plenty of space for multiple tabs)
 
Reason077 said:
I actually really like both the simplified design for tabs and the blended chrome in Safari 15.0. They're fantastic in dark mode and have a really clean look, distracting less from web content.

I hope it's at least going to be kept as an option in future updates? (I don't use the "compact" mode because I need plenty of space for multiple tabs)
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If Apple sticks to its principles, the "simplified design" will be scrapped following the puck mouse, "portless" macbooks, skeuomorphic ui, butterfly keyboards ....

Some time, when Cook/Forstall and Schiller quit, we maybe will see the Vulkan/OpenGL or even CUDA on the Mac.
 
Robert.Walter said:
Apple needs to roll SIA (Sign In With Apple) and HME (Hide My Email) into the Passwords UI and park it all in Safari Preferences on Mac and in Settings Passwords in iOS.

There is so much overlap of these three features having to do with authentication that it’s insane the way they are balkanized and take so many steps to go from one to the other and back.

Of course as a Catalina user on my 2012 Mac I hope this feature (Hide My Email) in any form will be rolled into a security upgrade just as the recent changes to the Passwords feature in Safari Preferences have been.)
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Apple should have put the password pane in system preferences years ago. And further it would be great if all the other browsers saved passwords in keychain as well (not just their own separate password managers).
 
The fact this got publicly released before being rolled back is a debacle. Hopefully some heads roll and lessons are learnt from this.
 
podycust said:
Was I like the only one that like the new design? Lol wish apple would allow me to keep it!
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The compact design is still available. I was one of the people that did like the new compact design. I installed the latest Safari beta (I am an Appleseed tester) and reverted back to the original Safari 14 design and I have to admit that I was mistaken. The new compact design is much worse than the classic one. It only saves some space, but at the same time creates a lot of clutter and inconsistencies. I am glad that Apple reverted everything to how it was on Safari 14.
 
With the old tab design it was near impossible to read text on non-active tabs except maybe on the MBP screen. Not enough contrast. It was also harder to tell which tab was active, particularly with dark mode. For me, this makes Safari unusable.

I mean, I keep trying to use it, and while it fits in tabs more efficiently, my productivity is not nearly as efficient. And please don't think I'm someone that is going blind. I'm doing fine, but I'm a power user and this definitely slows me down. Any tips for increasing contrast other than using the horrid "increase contrast" option that applies to everything in macOS?
 
You are the One said:
Does Safari 15.1 support adding new bookmarks on a M1 chip device without crashing, or is that feature going to be permanent?
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Update:

Installed Safari 15.1 Beta 4.

Added YouTube bookmark = works.

Added multiple YouTube bookmarks = works.

cmd + d YouTube bookmark = works.

Spec: MacBook Air M1 (2020).
OS: macOS Big Sur 11.6
Browser: Safari (Version 15.1 (16612.2.9.1.22, 16612))

Never thought I'd be so happy so get such basic functionality as adding a YouTube bookmark back working.

Good job, Apple :D:apple:

P.S. Link - https://developer.apple.com/safari/download/ (please note you'll need an Apple ID to download).

Initial post:
Safari 15.1 Beta 2 crashes every single time.

Haven't tried beta 3 or beta 4 yet.

Not sure what is more suprising:
1) Apple released Safari 15 without first fixing this (surely Apple employees visit YouTube).
or
2) It's been a month since the release of the Safari 15 and who knows when Apple will fix this bug.

And the only way to revert to Safari 14 is to reinstall macOS.
 
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