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Why? To get a million different configurations of devices in the wild, all having different versions of the OS and apps?

What’s the benefit in having iOS 16.1, Safari 15.0.13, Music 12.1, etc. While someone else might have a variation on that. Each configuration introduces new issues and bugs making it very hard for Apple to maintain this.

Now at least everybody is on the same version.

The only downside I see with the current approach is that updates always require a reboot.

Agreed. If you want that kind of granular OS control iOS has never been the OS that’s right for you. You know what you’re getting with iOS. A mobile operating system that’s a walled garden shipping with certain apps and components that you can’t remove along with tight integration into the Apple ecosystem. If that’s not your cup of tea go with Android or some other OS with more granular control. The same applies to MacOS as well. It is what it is and that’s a big part of the reason why it “just works” and is so easy to use for end users.
 
Sorry but echo chamber whispers say "5 min".
Yeah. Literally no iOS update in the history of iPhone has taken 5 minutes.

Agreed. If you want that kind of granular OS control iOS has never been the OS that’s right for you. You know what you’re getting with iOS. A mobile operating system that’s a walled garden shipping with certain apps and components that you can’t remove along with tight integration into the Apple ecosystem. If that’s not your cup of tea go with Android or some other OS with more granular control. The same applies to MacOS as well. It is what it is and that’s a big part of the reason why it “just works” and is so easy to use for end users.
The security and stability and tight integration of the Apple ecosystem isn't going to disappear because of individual app updates.
 
They're rolling it out. I'm on Big Sur and I opened the software update control panel. Nothing. Closed, reopened and it says Safari 15.6.1 is available.

UPDATE: Took like 30 seconds for it to download new version, install and restart Safari.
 
It would be real smart if they updated older versions of safari as well. Hundreds of millions of users on older OS's way back to High Sierra for pro audio reasons and NVIDIA 3d rendering.
 
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Am I the only one having issues with facebook after the update yesterday? I can't create a post in any of my groups.
I also noticed when I like a comment the icon doesn't turn bold like it used to
 
What about fixes for Mojave and earlier operating systems?

I presume they're affected, too.

Many of us have older Macs; many of us still use 32-bit apps -- e.g., Office 2011; many of us are aware that upgrading to a recent OS could render our Macs sluggish; etc.

We spent good money in our day -- and keep spending it on newer computers -- but want to keep our older or even recent systems running securely!
You might get an update if you're lucky, but you know the risks running out of date/obsolete software, so there's that.

And Office 2011?? You must really love terrible, terrible software to still be using that rubbish.
 
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This sites a bit slow.. Apple has announced in the U.K. national press at least, for everyone to update their iPhones, iPads, Macs due to a serious security vulnerability that may have been already exploited, it gives a hacker complete control of your device. Surprised it's not on the front page here unless I missed it?

 
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One thing I'll say for Apple, as glacially slow as they are at putting a USB C socket on an iPhone, they don't eff about when security vulnerabilities come to light.
 
If they had an imac with a bigger screen say 27-32 i'd buy that pronto , but none of the current stuff does anything for me

I bought an M1 mini but that's in the front room attached to a tv , might just get another of those if the update goes kaput ... ( backing up now ) ... gawd its taking ages
 
If they had an imac with a bigger screen say 27-32 i'd buy that pronto , but none of the current stuff does anything for me

I bought an M1 mini but that's in the front room attached to a tv , might just get another of those if the update goes kaput ... ( backing up now ) ... gawd its taking ages
I'm sorely tempted by an iMac, but I would like an iMac with more GPU performance. I'm finding this so much w Apple these days, they never seem to have the spec I'd like for my use case.
 
I'm sorely tempted by an iMac, but I would like an iMac with more GPU performance. I'm finding this so much w Apple these days, they never seem to have the spec I'd like for my use case.

Well with any luck an iMac Pro will be along soon enough. I don’t have a choice unless I get a bigger desk and use up more, I will get a headless Mac, hopefully the Studio once I have the money. Because I have a large 28” monitor and my works laptop setup and I have to use the laptop camera for meetings, so I don’t have the room for an iMac unfortunately. But it suits me as the Studio is a nice powerful machine.
 
Quite simple, actually. If you are running Catalina or Big Sur and have Safari 15.6 installed the update will show up in System Preferences->Software Update. As you should well know by now there is NO standalone updater to download.
You can still download the full installer with the softwareupdate command-line tool.


% softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer --full-installer-version 12.5.1
Scanning for 12.5.1 installer
Install finished successfully

The installer is then placed in the Applications folder. I've been downloading full installers like this for a while now.
 
This vulnerability is FRONT PAGE news across every news website in the U.K. from the BBC to Sky News to Daily Mail and so on and so forth.

Not a good look for Apple at all.

They’ve dropped the ball, again.
 
Just updated mine. Is the security issue over exaggerated or serious? I mean I’m hearing people could have their devices locked or operated by a hacker because of the breach but then it says the event of that happening is unlikely ?
 
This vulnerability is FRONT PAGE news across every news website in the U.K. from the BBC to Sky News to Daily Mail and so on and so forth.

Not a good look for Apple at all.

They’ve dropped the ball, again.
Being on the front page in UK media doesn't mean anything! When it comes to anything science/tech related, none of them have the faintest clue what they're talking about, and take great delight in scaring their readers witless with ludicrous, clickbait nonsense.

Apple have not 'dropped the ball' - it's been discovered, fix is in place, and there's no evidence that it's even been exploited. Calm down... and stop reading Sky News and the Daily Mail!

The Daily Mail! Good grief!
 
Just updated mine. Is the security issue over exaggerated or serious? I mean I’m hearing people could have their devices locked or operated by a hacker because of the breach but then it says the event of that happening is unlikely ?
I think the media has overhyped this, yes it’s a vulnerability but it’s only a bulletin, it’s not like Tim Cook is making a press statement!
 
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