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Apple Releases Safari 4.0.4
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In starting up yes but other than that no. Sites don't really load any different in those two browsers. Most people actually have an internetconnection that tributes to the slowness, not their computer and their webbrowser.
Firefox and many others score a 100% at passing the acid test. They also do that on the acid2 test. Scoring a 100% on the acid3 test however is impossible as the requirement is that the animation should be smoothly. Due to internetspeeds, networkspeeds, load of the computer and many other things this is simply impossible to do.
You also fail to understand what the acid tests are actually about. They are never ever meant to be a test about checking how a browser conforms to the W3C guidelines (aka compatibility) and it isn't what it does. The acid tests are used to check if browsers handle the errors properly. It's the exact opposite of what you think it does. People like you (and that's quite a lot of people) overrate the acid tests.
That's why Firefox in overall has less quirks than Safari does when displaying webpages. It may not aim for passing the acid tests but it does aim to render pages properly. Safari and Opera are both examples of browsers that aim at passing the acid test instead of rendering pages properly (yes it is their second aim but not their main which it should).
A lot of browser plugins and software are 32 bit and do not work with the 64 bit Safari. While it somewhat solves the Flash "problem" (the actual problem is Flash eating resources like there is no tomorrow) it opposes other problems. You can hardly call that an advantage imho.
This is not an advantage as it is both an advantage and a disadvantage. It's simply all in the eye of the beholder. I'd have left out this part as it is not the best argument for your case.
Apart from the fact there are tons of bookmark synchronising tools out there for Mac, Linux, Windows, iPhone, etc. Maybe the MobileMe integration is a bit nicer but that doesn't mean others do not exist. Mozilla is even working on it's own synchronisation server/service (you can use theirs or run your own).
Webpages consist of different sort of code, they do not entirely exist of JavaScript. Those benchmarks are nice if you only want to know how fast a JavaScript only page is rendered in a webbrowser. However, rendering an entire webpage with all sorts of stuff on it is an entirely different operation. If it uses more Java and the webbrowser that is the slowest in JavaScript is the most efficient in Java that webbrowser will win this race.
There weren't any. The stuff you mentioned are all things you need to put in the right context which you clearly didn't. The points itself say absolutely nothing, it's the context that give them a meaning.
Both are good browsers if you simply want to visit websites. If you want to do more you might like Firefox more. Choosing a webbrowser is quite personal.
Downgrade - Restore Safari 4.0.3 through Time Machine. But first, see below:
You should consider "Empty Cache" in the Safari menu:
Downgrade - Restore Safari 4.0.3 through Time Machine. But first, see below:
You should consider "Empty Cache" in the Safari menu:
Tried emptying the cache, didn't work. I haven't set up a Time Machine update either so there was no way for me to go back
So I tried completely formatting (was going to to this anyways
), installing Snow Leopard, updating to 4.0.4 and 10.6.2... it still locks up when I load YouTube Completely fresh installation, never visited a website before, updated the whole computer and went to YouTube and Safari 4.0.4 froze. Fantastic.
Tried that, didn't work.
Completely formatted (was going to to this anyways
Completely fresh installation, never visited a website before, updated the whole computer and went to YouTube and Safari 4.0.4 froze.
Take it to the store.
I had seen a lot of beach balls on 4.0.3. Hope this update is an antidote to that. So far, 4.0.4 works fine for me.
Haha, I don't think they'd give me a new laptop for that.
I sent an error report to Apple and commented a bit about how the YouTube crashing happens on a fresh installation (so I basically said it's entirely their fault).
Let's see if "Apple Releases Safari 4.0.5" pops up on MacRumors in a day or two... probably won't though.
Edit:
Gahh, I think 10.6.2 is actually what caused the problem with flash websites (i.e. YouTube) crashing Safari. I downloaded Camino, opened YouTube... same hang up. Tried deleting my Flash plug ins, downloading new ones, didn't fix it. Great.
I installed the new version on MacOSX SL Server. There are many permissions which needed to be repaired (mostly Safary) after the installation and a second manual reboot was necessary to get file services working again.
This is just a note to others installing 4.0.4 on a Server.
This is just a note to others installing 4.0.4 on a Server.
Welcome to Web 2.0, where all the things that were trivial for your desktop operating system to do now push your CPU to 100%. Seriously, it's not just Safari/Flash: if you run Windows, go to the Microsoft Silvershite homepage and run the demos with Task Manager showing performance. Yes folks, it now takes 100% CPU to move a window - that's progress!
Apologies for the rant
I have not gotten a Safari crash in over a month, Maybe you have some plugin issues?
So far, 4.0.4 has been blazing fast for me - opens on 1 bounce, loads the pages real fast. Everything just feels so snappy; considerably more than back in Leopard. And it was already pretty fast then.
I totally switched back to Safari and don't use Firefox anymore. Although the 3.6 beta I tried was faster than 3.5.5, it still can't get anywhere near the snappiness and the speed of Safari 4.0.4.
I totally switched back to Safari and don't use Firefox anymore. Although the 3.6 beta I tried was faster than 3.5.5, it still can't get anywhere near the snappiness and the speed of Safari 4.0.4.
It's running like crap on my macbook pro too. It's choppy. Often wont load a page unless I refresh and it's utilising CPU way too much that my battery life goes from 4+ hours down to 1+ hour. Utter *****.
I've had to switch over to firefox until it's patched again.
I really can't understand how you guys have these problems when Safari is blazing fast for pretty much everyone...do you repair permissions at least?
I really can't understand how you cannot comprehend that every user experience is different.
I'm sure that he does. But he'd like his experience with Safari to be the same as that of those who have no problems.
