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Does anyone use this as their main browser? I know most prefer Chrome but for me Safari does everything I need. Have always been curious about it and honestly surprised no one talks about it more, guess it's nothing special.
I can't understand how any mac user doesn't use Safari personally.
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But chrome has favicons in the tabs. As every other browser. Why is safari missing a basic like this?

Is this really a deal breaker for you? Favicons are visually annoying and not that helpful. Just two finger pinch on the trackpad and Safari will sort the tabs by website in a useful grid.
 
Anyone got a tip how i can change the name in the Menu to something shorter? Safari Technology Preview kills half the others icons i have stored up there.

If you edit the string under <key>CFBundleName</key> in the file here:

/Applications/Safari Technology Preview.app/Contents/Info.plist

That should do it.

(Right-click on the ”Safari Technology Preview.app” in the Finder and choose ”Show Package Contents” to be able to navigate to the Info.plist file in the Finder)
 
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I can't understand how any mac user doesn't use Safari personally.
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Is this really a deal breaker for you? Favicons are visually annoying and not that helpful. Just two finger pinch on the trackpad and Safari will sort the tabs by website in a useful grid.

Yes, its THE deal breaker for me! Icons are not annoying (?), but very helpful as a visual orientation. Thats why traffic signs, apps, ux-menus, logos etc in the world use them so successful. You simply can much faster see, what you are looking for. Its a no brainer.
Pinching the trackpad everytime i wanna switch a tab is a pain in usability.
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I can't understand how any mac user doesn't use Safari personally.
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Is this really a deal breaker for you? Favicons are visually annoying and not that helpful. Just two finger pinch on the trackpad and Safari will sort the tabs by website in a useful grid.

Just imagine an iOS homescreen only with textnames, no icons. Or in macOS, wipe the icons from the dock and replace them with plain text and the weird horizontal scrolling (like in safari). Would that be helpful?
 
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Does anyone use this as their main browser? I know most prefer Chrome but for me Safari does everything I need. Have always been curious about it and honestly surprised no one talks about it more, guess it's nothing special.

Yes, for about 5 or 6 months. Works fine, only sometimes the web content stop for no reason and I have to relaunch Safari, but this only now and then.
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But chrome has favicons in the tabs. As every other browser. Why is safari missing a basic like this?

Use Glims (machangout.com) and you will be all happy. No reason to switch to a horrible browser.
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I need to test this later, but i use safari for everything except when logging into the office from home. Safari does not work with our Citrix server correctly. Chrome works fine. If they fix whatever the problem is, I would stick with Safari.

Strange, I have no problems accessing Citrix via MBA or MBP.
 
Lol it's amazing really.. some saying it's been fine since release 1, I could make a list with over 25 broken things since 1st release, up until last one, unchecked CSS properties in inspector were commented and when checking them back wouldn't un-comment them, also this is the 3rd straight release without HTML5 points improvement, it took them 3 versions to fix something as basic as pixel dimension popover when inspecting elements.

Funny how a dev browser has broken tools and some people say it's been fine since release 1? LOL, sure. Also, what's the deal with favicons? If you think having over 30+ open tabs and that favicons are annoying, you must be loving the horizontal tab management behavior as well, as if those monochrome pinned tab icons were a widespread standard today lol, they are so easy to setup and test, it's not like you gotta clear cache everytime or restart the browser, another well thought components for devs. Please go back to school and finish it, being rich ain't enough.. this is the apple consumer today.

Also, for the person stucked with version 16.. JS alert dialogs pop-up empty, try it for yourself.
 
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I don't need it, unless its a requirement to install STP, in which case I guess I really don't need STP. As I mentioned above, I've decided I'll be staying away from Sierra. It looks like El Capitan is the end of the road for me on the Mac.

why is that?
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I don't need it, unless its a requirement to install STP, in which case I guess I really don't need STP. As I mentioned above, I've decided I'll be staying away from Sierra. It looks like El Capitan is the end of the road for me on the Mac.
 
Use Glims (machangout.com) and you will be all happy. No reason to switch to a horrible browser.

Glims is dead since more than 3 years. No Support for newer macOS or Safari Version. So: No happy :(
 
Yes, its THE deal breaker for me! Icons are not annoying (?), but very helpful as a visual orientation.
To some extend they are. In a lot of cases they are just as useless as text because you can't tell which tab is which since the icon is the same. When titles are done right, text is the better visual because it usually makes it easier to identify the tabs due to different text. Icons also do not state what the tab is about, they just show a nice logo which only identifies the site owner and not the content. So no, favicons are not that helpful.
 
Who actually uses it? I had to do some research, looks like a cool technology but I don't see why they would bother supporting it. It's "in development" in WebKit and only really supported in Chrome. I imagine it comes back to the whole h264 vs vp8/9 issues while google and apple fight it out.
Anyone wishing to do video calls over the web. Apple obviously want to give more reason to use FaceTime.
 
why is that?

I'm not comfortable with the level of cloud activity that Apple insists on anymore. Nor am I comfortable with the privacy-reducing features, or the elevated use of biometrics.

- Siri is freaking everywhere. And its all handled off-site on Apple servers. I have a 3.2GHz i5, a terabyte of drive space, and 8GB of ram. Speech recognition was available on 68040 Macs back in the mid 90's. No reason why everything has to be transmitted to a remote server. On a phone maybe, but not on a local desktop with this much horsepower.

- Siri will require a working mic to be on at all times. When I upgrade my drive I'm going to physically remove the camera and mic from my iMac. I'm tired of having an ugly patch blocking a piece of the frame over the display, and I'm tired of having to fight to keep the mic turned off.

- the desktop and documents folders are now automatically uploaded to iCloud. Of course you can turn it off, but how much of it will make it there before you're allowed to do that?

- Optimized storage. This is on by default, and will start moving files the second you're done installing. How nice of them to move all your rarely used files into the cloud. Equally nice that under the Telecommunications Act of 1984, any file over a certain age (I can't remember if its 18 months or 180 days)stored on a remote server, is considered "abandoned", and thereby fair game for the Feds, no warrant necessary.

- Facial recognition in Photos. I'm sure thats real convenient for the user, but its also convenient for prying eyes when the user helpfully identifies everyone they know by name in those photos.

- Apple Music. I have yet to see that they've fixed the whole "we'll helpfully scan your hard drive and move everything music-related to the cloud". Information on what people listen to, when, how often, is extremely valuable and useful to certain people and organizations. I'm not going to contribute to that.

- Apple Pay is on the Mac. Hooray. Except you have to have a fingerprint saved on the iPhone to use it. No way am I ever going to do that.

The only way I'd use this upgrade is if the machine was disconnected from the internet. And you won't be able to use it on a machine disconnected from the net. Have fun trying to just use iTunes on El Capitan with no net connection, now imagine that system wide.

I think that computers have reached the limits of neat new things that are actually useful - at least for now - and they're going to focus on bringing one hundred percent of our lives into the cloud.

.... and for that reason, I'm out.
 
It's far more comfortable to surf with (fav)icons. Period.
To some extend they are. In a lot of cases they are just as useless as text because you can't tell which tab is which since the icon is the same. When titles are done right, text is the better visual because it usually makes it easier to identify the tabs due to different text. Icons also do not state what the tab is about, they just show a nice logo which only identifies the site owner and not the content. So no, favicons are not that helpful.
 
That's between your ears only. Period.

You need to show some respect to your fellow human beings here.
 
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