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Apple Releases Second Studio Display 17 Firmware Beta

Apple Fan 2008 said:
Updating the OS on a display... What a time to be alive!
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Exactly, right?

Back in my day, the upgrade we'd do to our TV screens is a good ole side whack. That's how we'd upgrade an old 20 year old "monitor". It's a different kind of firmware; just make sure you firmly apply palm to side of monitor and give a good whack until the scrolling stops. It worked -- most of the time.
 
If they made it for those people who have two Studio Displays paired to one Mac (ie Mac Studio in the ads) to be able to use both set of speakers at the same time that would be a nice and overdue update! Just saying that should have shipped from day one!
 
andonemorething said:
Oh, they have every right to be mad. This is Apple riding the horrible trend of ship it first, fix it later which also affected the Studio Display models when they launched and persisted for quite a long while. Yes, many new monitors are complex these days but I fail to see how the Studio Display is even comparable to many of the expensive gaming/premium monitors with vastly more ports/features given I can't even use it well with Windows or Linux. Regardless, even with all these updates, there are still weird hiccups I encounter at times which I was hoping to never see with an "Apple monitor".
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This is a very cynical take and I guarantee it isn't the case. You can test all day until you're blue in the face but you never know what kind of issues may arise until end users get it in their hands. This is literally no different than in the past 20+ years, you just see updates over the air now verses companies quietly updating firmware on the production line.

Firmware/software updates have always been a thing, heck Nintendo (original 8-bit Nintendo) games would get frequent updates, it's why cartridges manufactured at different times have different software versions on them.
 
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Apple Fan 2008 said:
Updating the OS on a display... What a time to be alive!
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Yep. This is one of the major reasons I am hesitant to buy it. I still have my ACD from 2004. Almost 20 years of reliable service. and no software updates. If the XDR wasn't so damn expensive, I would buy it instead.
 
Please add airplay / screen mirroring. Being able to wirelessly connect to the display from any device would be a game changer. The Samsung M8 display has some features like this.
 
Instrumentality said:
Please add airplay / screen mirroring. Being able to wirelessly connect to the display from any device would be a game changer. The Samsung M8 display has some features like this.
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I don’t think they can. With all the “stuff” the ASD has, I don’t think it has wifi or Bluetooth capability. Such a miss as they easily could have made it a stand alone AppleTV too.
 
gugy said:
Yep. This is one of the major reasons I am hesitant to buy it. I still have my ACD from 2004. Almost 20 years of reliable service. and no software updates. If the XDR wasn't so damn expensive, I would buy it instead.
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They actually did have software updates, they came through the OS updates.
 
21Southwick said:
If they made it for those people who have two Studio Displays paired to one Mac (ie Mac Studio in the ads) to be able to use both set of speakers at the same time that would be a nice and overdue update! Just saying that should have shipped from day one!
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Except I've literally never seen any system do that ever and I've been using computers with multiple monitors since the 90s. Each monitor is seen by the OS as a single output device (just like computer speaker setups, despite being multiple speakers are seen as a single output device).
 
andonemorething said:
Oh, they have every right to be mad. This is Apple riding the horrible trend of ship it first, fix it later which also affected the Studio Display models when they launched and persisted for quite a long while. Yes, many new monitors are complex these days but I fail to see how the Studio Display is even comparable to many of the expensive gaming/premium monitors with vastly more ports/features given I can't even use it well with Windows or Linux. Regardless, even with all these updates, there are still weird hiccups I encounter at times which I was hoping to never see with an "Apple monitor".
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I was pretty excited when Apple came back to the display space but… this monitor seems to just be problematic. I wish there were more options in the 5K and Thunderbolt space.

I cannot believe that five years after the LG 5K there’s basically nothing else in that space. It’s so cool to go from work (my MacBook Pro) to my gaming PC with just swapping the thunderbolt cable.
 
cult hero said:
I was pretty excited when Apple came back to the display space but… this monitor seems to just be problematic. I wish there were more options in the 5K and Thunderbolt space.

I cannot believe that five years after the LG 5K there’s basically nothing else in that space. It’s so cool to go from work (my MacBook Pro) to my gaming PC with just swapping the thunderbolt cable.
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I agree, even I'm heavily disappointed. I'd have went for a different option if it was available but I wasn't ready to pay a lot of money for a pretty old monitor which also had its problems.

I'm optimistic though that we'll get more. Samsung announced a 5K monitor a while back but they are taking their sweet time with it to launch.
 
chrono1081 said:
Except I've literally never seen any system do that ever and I've been using computers with multiple monitors since the 90s. Each monitor is seen by the OS as a single output device (just like computer speaker setups, despite being multiple speakers are seen as a single output device).
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To be fair, you probably never used monitors that come with an iPhone inside it before 😛 so OP isn't wrong to expect stuff like this since these are supposed to be "smarter".
 
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chrono1081 said:
This is a very cynical take and I guarantee it isn't the case. You can test all day until you're blue in the face but you never know what kind of issues may arise until end users get it in their hands. This is literally no different than in the past 20+ years, you just see updates over the air now verses companies quietly updating firmware on the production line.

Firmware/software updates have always been a thing, heck Nintendo (original 8-bit Nintendo) games would get frequent updates, it's why cartridges manufactured at different times have different software versions on them.
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I'm just being realistic, you take a look at most premium monitors coming out now, they are all shipping half-baked with problems that never should've existed in the first place. One can easily infer that companies are getting comfortable with it since "users can update it". Apple's case especially, I can only think they went sloppy seeing they put in the iPhone board instead of coming up with something dedicated for the monitor. I still don't see what advantage I'm getting with all that horsepower besides making it even more likely for the monitors to brick. ~700MB update for this monitor's firmware sounds incredibly stupid to me.

I'm not against the idea of firmware updates in general, but it's giving an incentive for these companies to get away with shipping unfinished products.
 
Apple Fan 2008 said:
Updating the OS on a display... What a time to be alive!
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My Sony TV from 2010 has this, as does my LG widescreen. The Sony is a breeze to update, the LG (usb…) less so. This isn’t particularly new or innovative, but the ease of updates is a nice change.
 
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chrono1081 said:
They actually did have software updates, they came through the OS updates.
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Oh ok. Well, my point was more about not being just a dumb display without cameras and chips inside that can shorten its useful life and Apple drops updating it after 7 years. My ACD is almost 20 years. This is what draws me toward the XDR, but that price wants to make me cry. lol
 
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