Apple Releases Third Public Beta of macOS Catalina to Public Beta Testers

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They seed a public beta that can seriously damage iCloud Drive. No one can be "too emotional" about that.

This isn't beta.
That’s the whole point of beta: features can break, data can be destroyed, all kinds of bad things can happen. You can argue this is more like an alpha release, but either way, it is called beta. If you don’t fully acknowledge this, you should not use beta.

In iOS 13 side, beta 3 breaks all features related to USB disk. My music playlist artwork jumps left and right. Geekbench is broken and I am forced to reinstall, losing all of my test record. Thankfully no dealbreaker thing happen.
 
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That’s the whole point of beta: features can break, data can be destroyed, all kinds of bad things can happen. You can argue this is more like an alpha release, but either way, it is called beta. If you don’t fully acknowledge this, you should not use beta.

In iOS 13 side, beta 3 breaks all features related to USB disk. My music playlist artwork jumps left and right. Geekbench is broken and I am forced to reinstall, losing all of my test record. Thankfully no dealbreaker thing happen.
Apple doesn't seed betas that destroy data. They simply warn that anything *can* happen so as to avoid any liability.

Apple seeding a beta that is this unstable, specifically with regard to iCloud Drive, is a new low for them.
 
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based on what exactly? Certainly this hyperbole comes with some citations?
For a Beta macOS 10.15 PB is working well, of course it has bugs its a darn beta release. I have it installed on a 2017 iMac 27" and sure there are bugs but it's useable.

iOS 13 on my XS Max however has all sorts of bugs making it difficuklt to use. But as you've heard a million times, that's the experience of a beta release.
 

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Apple today seeded the third beta of an upcoming macOS Catalina update to its public beta testing group, two weeks after seeding the second public beta and a day after seeding the fourth developer beta.

Beta testers who have signed up for Apple's beta testing program will be able to download the macOS Catalina beta through the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences after installing the proper profile. Those who want to be a part of Apple's beta testing program can sign up to participate through the beta testing website, which gives users access to iOS, macOS, and tvOS betas.


Potential beta testers should make a full Time Machine backup before installing macOS Catalina, and it may not be wise to install it on a primary machine because betas can be unstable and often have many bugs.

macOS Catalina eliminates the iTunes app, which has been a key Mac feature since 2001. In Catalina, iTunes has been replaced by Music, Podcasts, and TV apps. The new apps can do everything that iTunes can do, so Mac users aren't going to be losing any functionality, and device management capabilities are now handled by the Finder app.

macOS Catalina has a useful new Sidecar feature, designed to turn the iPad into a secondary display for the Mac. It can work as a traditional second display or with a mirroring feature. Apple Pencil support works with Sidecar, so you can turn your iPad into a drawing tablet using apps like Photoshop.


For those with an Apple Watch set up to unlock the Mac, there's now an option to approve security prompts in Catalina by tapping on the side button of the watch. Macs with a T2 chip in them also support Activation Lock, making them useless to thieves much as it does on the iPhone.

There's a new Find My app that lets you track your lost devices, and previously, this functionality was only available via iCloud on the Mac. There's even a new option to find your devices even when they're offline by leveraging Bluetooth connections to other nearby devices, something that's particularly handy on the Mac because it doesn't have a cellular connection.


Apple is expanding Screen Time to the Mac in Catalina, letting Apple users track their device usage across Mac, iOS, and iPad for a better overall picture of time spent using electronics.

For developers, a "Project Catalyst" feature lets apps designed for the iPad be ported over to the Mac with just a few clicks in Xcode and some minor tweaks. Apple's ultimate goal with Project Catalyst is to bring more apps to the Mac.

Photos features an updated interface that better highlights your best pictures, Safari includes a new start page with Siri Suggestions, Mail has a new feature for blocking emails and another new option for muting threads, and the Reminders app has been overhauled and is now more useful.


Before installing macOS Catalina, be aware that it does away with 32-bit app support, so some older apps that have not been updated in some time may stop working. For more on macOS Catalina, make sure to check out our macOS Catalina roundup.

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I cannot believe they have seeded this as a public beta. No one should touch this with a 50 foot pole.
It is the most garbage beta ever seeded for macOS.
Also they say iTunes will work as normal this is complete rubbish nothing will work with iTunes I have 20 years of music on the old iTunes and I can’t fine one reason to upgrade to this os apple have lost the plot
 
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Also they say iTunes will work as normal this is complete rubbish nothing will work with iTunes I have 20 years of music on the old iTunes and I can’t fine one reason to upgrade to this os apple have lost the plot
In a beta?! Shocking! Class action...
 

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Yeah, it’s a beta. Still I do have to agree with the naysayers partially. It is the most problem fraught beta I’ve used, and I’ve been using them since Lion. The only one where I would absolutely try to steer the casual user away from. I have no ill feeling against Apple for this. However I’d tentatively suggest they try and get iCloud and Apple account issues more stable before they send out public betas in the future. Then again, perhaps they needed to expand the beta to the public to better get an understanding of these problems. Hmm.
 
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2019 iMac w/Cantalina PB3: A garbage scow on the high seas
2009 17” MBP w/ Sierra: Smooth Sailing as always

Catalina was fun to try out, but its lack of 32bit support breaks too many little old tertiary software tools we use on a daily basis to get work done around here, so I think this most likely marks the end of updates for us, and probably new Mac hardware going forward.
 
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My Mac is already 19A501i = PB2.
When I check the software update, it is displayed as "macOS Catalina Beta". (PB3 is not displayed)
Then click on the "Upgrade Now" button and the Catalina Beta installer will launch.

I do not know how to update to PB3.:(
 

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My Mac is already 19A501i = PB2.
When I check the software update, it is displayed as "macOS Catalina Beta". (PB3 is not displayed)
Then click on the "Upgrade Now" button and the Catalina Beta installer will launch.

I do not know how to update to PB3.:(
That is how.
 
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Apple doesn't seed betas that destroy data. They simply warn that anything *can* happen so as to avoid any liability.

Apple seeding a beta that is this unstable, specifically with regard to iCloud Drive, is a new low for them.
The High Sierra public beta nuked my entire fusion drive, so that’s demonstrably untrue. Which is fine, it’s a beta, I had a backup.

The problem is these betas are promoted, I get why not give this a try emails about them from Apple, as PUBLIC betas. The use of the word public here as distinct from developer beta, implies, or leaves the user to infer that it might be a safer version than what is being offered to say developers, when in fact it’s exactly the same code, carrying exactly the same risks. People, in general, are not savvy about these kind of risks, and so aren’t aware that they need to take steps to mitigate them.