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Apple today released the third beta of macOS Ventura 13.4 to its public beta testing group, allowing the general public to try out the software ahead of its official launch. The third macOS Ventura 13.4 public beta comes two weeks after Apple seeded the second public beta and a day after the beta was provided to developers.

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Public beta testers can download the macOS 13.3 Ventura update from the Software Update section of the System Preferences app after installing the proper profile from Apple's beta software website.

The macOS Ventura 13.4 beta adds a new beta installation method where developers and public beta testers can opt-in to receive beta updates without the need for a profile to be installed. For developers, an Apple ID needs to be associated with a developer account to get access to a developer beta, while public beta testers need to sign up on Apple's public beta website with their Apple ID and then elect to receive beta updates using the System Settings app.

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Work on macOS Ventura is winding down as Apple prepares to shift its focus to macOS 14, the as-of-yet-unnamed next-generation version of macOS that we expect to see introduced this June at WWDC.

Article Link: Apple Releases Third Public Beta of macOS Ventura 13.4
 
Here's yesterdays builds
  • iOS 16.5 beta 3 (20F5050f) - April 25, 2023
  • iPadOS 16.5 beta 3 (20F5050f) - April 25, 2023
  • macOS 13.4 beta 3 (22F5049e) - April 25, 2023
  • watchOS 9.5 beta 3 (20T5549e) - April 25, 2023
  • tvOS 16.5 beta 3 (20L5549e) - April 25, 2023

Apple Studio Display

Known Issues

  • Apple Studio Display firmware update starts showing progress but never completes. (107287354)
    Workaround: To install other updates including future macOS Beta Updates, click “More info…” in Software Update Settings, uncheck Apple Studio Display firmware update, and click “Install Now.”

CSS

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed increasing column-count above 2 not updating the layout. (71808738)

File Bookmark

Resolved Issues

  • Fixes a regression in macOS Ventura 13.3 where a security check causes bookmark resolution to fail when the path contains Unicode characters stored with composed normalization. As an example, this prevented files in Finder from opening when double-clicked. (107550080)

SwiftUI

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Using ImageRenderer within a ShareLink’s preview closure crashed the running application. (107763234)
 
MacOS 13.4 beta 3
  • Safari Version 16.5 (18615.2.8)
  • System Firmware Version: 8422.120.65 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 22.5.0: Sun Apr 16 18:18:26 PDT 2023; root:xnu-8796.120.47.0.1~41/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
MacOS 13.4 beta 2
  • Safari Version 16.5 (18615.2.5.11.2)
  • System Firmware Version: 8422.120.55 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 22.5.0: Sun Apr 2 19:24:16 PDT 2023; root:xnu-8796.120.31~10/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
Looks like a RC next
 
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No real issues with beta 3, compared to the first 2 betas. Like before its optimized and stable
Can you say if the Quicklook issue is fixed, with the animated gifs?

Doing a Quicklook on any animated gif freezes QL, when you attempt at using QL again on any image, after the animated gif...

I bet this bug isn't fixed at all!
 
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Is the anything new (and/or interesting) in these OS updates any more? (Apart from a system that lets you install beta versions of the new update?)
There's always the hope that bugs are fixed...
There's a truly horrendous bug in 13.3.x on Apple Silicon that randomly ejects external hard drives. There's also a dumb bug that prevents (at least for some combinations) the ability to use HDMI 2.x outputs so you have to force the display to 1.4x (meaning no HDR); but that one may not be fixed till 14.0
And there are not so serious, but are dumb, on-going stupid bugs like occasionally the decal displaying volume control will stay displayed on the screen and there appears to be no way to get rid of it.
 
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I'm kind of meh on Ventura. I haven't seen anything new that would have me champing at the bit to install it on my work machine. Apple's penchant of breaking two things for every one thing they fix isn't instilling a lot of confidence in me.

I will see about using OCLP to install Ventura on my 2011 27 inch iMac just to see how that goes. Just used OCLP to install the latest Monterey and everything is good, despite a slight hiccup with Safari.
 
Can you say if the Quicklook issue is fixed, with the animated gifs?

Doing a Quicklook on any animated gif freezes QL, when you attempt at using QL again on any image, after the animated gif...

I bet this bug isn't fixed at all!
Why would someone need to preview animated gif in quicklook? I just use a browser to compare multiple ones running.
 
Why would someone need to preview animated gif in quicklook? I just use a browser to compare multiple ones running.
Well, what's the utility of QL then? To get a preview of the gif! I find QL very usefull when I browse all of my files in the Finder.

My question is still valuable. Since you already have this 13.4 update, can you confirm the bug is gone or not (if you're on a Silicon Mac)? In QL, just let the animated gif to run until it ends, then try QL on any other picture.
 
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Well, what's the utility of QL then? To get a preview of the gif! I find QL very usefull when I browse all of my files in the Finder.

My question is still valuable. Since you already have this 13.4 update, can you confirm the bug is gone or not (if you're on a Silicon Mac)? In QL, just let the animated gif to run until it ends, then try QL on any other picture.
I looked at two samples from https://pixabay.com/gifs/
works. (AS Mac)
 
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There's always the hope that bugs are fixed...
There's a truly horrendous bug in 13.3.x on Apple Silicon that randomly ejects external hard drives.

That's the BIG one that I care about too. And it's been an ongoing problem since Big Sur, not just 13.3.x. Only some externals are affected, not all. It seems to be a greater problem for HDD-based enclosures than SSD (but SSDs are not immune). Age is not a factor as I've tested some ancient ones (pulled out of retirement enclosures to test this) that work fine, while some much newer ones will NOT stay connected. Many think it is connected to sleep, but I've seen plenty of ejections while actively transferring files to/from affected drives. It is not brand based as I have 2 from the same (good) brand and one works fine while the other "unexpectedly ejects."

Fans will visit every thread about this issue and redirect to cable, settings, user, firmware, etc- anything other than Apple/macOS- but same drive + cable hooked to an older Mac running macOS BEFORE Big Sur is typically just fine.

There are also plenty of posts by people who simply upgraded on the SAME Mac and crashed into this problem- fine with the prior macOS version, "unexpected ejections" on newer macOS. It mattered enough to some of those people to downgrade back to the prior version of macOS and all was fine again- no cable change, same user, no firmware change, etc. Particularly in those cases, it seems it can only be macOS bugs because EVERYTHING else remained the same.

There are LOTS of threads about this both here and elsewhere (including Apple's own support forums). For some reason, this (almost certainly) buggy port management code cannot seem to get attention at Apple (yet). Hopefully, THIS time someone finally got to it. I've got a great external temporarily retired because I can't keep it attached while using it... unless I hook it back up to any other Mac (or a PC I now own too) and all is fine again. Older Macs running older macOS? All just fine. Latest, greatest, "most powerful ever" Mac running latest macOS? "Unexpected ejections." I really miss "just works" Apple.
 
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Will upgrade to Ventura in October, Monterrey is stable and super reliable. Thank you all for continued beta testing, carry on!
This year was the first time I never updated any of my devices to the "current OS". Every device is a generation back, and I have no issues or problems that I am aware of. When I sit down to work I work for me, not Apple by trying to debug something they have borked.
 
Yeah...no
The system preferences are so bad I thought I was in Windows environment.

How about you stick with making thing EASY for the users and not just change stuff for ***** and giggles there by making it demonstrably WORSE.
 
can't wait for macOS 13.5.

Then it all slows down for the next 2 years cause macOS 14 is gonna just be a bug fix party. and most likely Apple silicon only.
 
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can't wait for macOS 13.5.

Then it all slows down for the next 2 years cause macOS 14 is gonna just be a bug fix party. and most likely Apple silicon only.
More like the opposite. Compared to the first Big Sur AS enabled OS, there has been an amazing progression of apps going AS native and additional functionality afforded by the SoCs that Intel can't support in OS's following Big Sur. Even a M1 Mac has not lost any of its speed or usefulness over time. The observations from intel platform users on Ventura is positive also.
 
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Then it all slows down for the next 2 years cause macOS 14 is gonna just be a bug fix party. and most likely Apple silicon only.
I would be extremely surprised if it was Apple Silicon only.
Ventura is currently sixth generation Intel processors and newer…
I could see the next update either keeping those same Ventura system requirements, or maybe requiring a seventh generation Intel processor, but it will absolutely not be an Apple Silicon only OS.
Apple was still introducing Intel computers in 2020, I don’t think they’re about to abandon all those people who purchased computers during the pandemic just yet.
Also, a proper replacement for the MacPro isn’t even out yet
 
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