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Apple Releases Third Studio Display 17 Firmware Beta
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I've used the webcam a few times and it's perfectly fine. It doesn't compare to a 4k webcam with a light ring, but for normal Teams & Zoom meetings and such it's all perfectly fine, and having it follow me a little bit (Center Stage) is useful.
Audio is quite good, IMHO - I find it to be loud enough (a problem with cheap monitors) and of good quality. It won't compete with M-Audio BX5 D2 studio monitors (8" tall speakers with a built in amp and such) but compared to monitors and compared to tiny speakers, it's perfectly good.
It just works, there are no fireworks, and it charges the Macbook Pro 16". It's nice. Yes, it's overpriced, but to get all of that in one package (at least excluding the LG and the recent Samsung) has so far been difficult.
Audio is quite good, IMHO - I find it to be loud enough (a problem with cheap monitors) and of good quality. It won't compete with M-Audio BX5 D2 studio monitors (8" tall speakers with a built in amp and such) but compared to monitors and compared to tiny speakers, it's perfectly good.
It just works, there are no fireworks, and it charges the Macbook Pro 16". It's nice. Yes, it's overpriced, but to get all of that in one package (at least excluding the LG and the recent Samsung) has so far been difficult.
My display is just a display
I would rather all the price of my display went to the display itself. I don’t need or want it to have a soc or usb hubs or thunderbolt hubs or cameras or whatever else
I wouldn’t mind a light sensor. That’s it
(Actually, it has speakers unfortunately)
I like avoiding cables, so I like avoiding the 3.5MM or USB cable for speakers, and I like avoiding the USB cable for the webcam/mic.
that's fair
(Though any decent speakers are going to be 1/4” not 3.5 mm)
I make music so there are going to be tons of cables all over the place no matter what
I'd prefer every penny of the price of a display just went in to the best possible panel
(if you don't like cables stay away from recording studios
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God willing, Samsung's Viewfinity S9 won't require anything similar (though I could live with it if the price is right)
I don't think I could go back to 27"
I'm on 32" 4k
would really like a nothing added 32" 5k at a consumer price point with a decent panel
I don't care who makes
that's my dream
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I don’t think the hardware is the issue here. It’s a 12MP camera, better resolution than the 4K cameras found elsewhere.
The issue is that it is ultra-wide and uses Centerstage (i.e. it’s cropping and panning). Both of these together require a lot of image processing to be applied, that’s probably where most of the lack of image quality comes from.
Then again, I don’t think it performs any worse than the selfie camera on a current iPhone, the defects are just much more pronounced when you see your face on a 27” screen, as opposed to a tiny iPhone one.
I'd prefer to get firmware updates. If the manufacturer can improve something after he releases a product, and they can do it for free, at the cost of 5 minutes and a USB stick or a few clicks on a keyboard, that's a fantastic feature. Suggesting otherwise, to me, makes little sense.
I think you Amy be missing the point, which I understood to be that a display need not have so many superfluous features as to have firmware that needs updating, but rather should merely be a display
This sounds good, problem is that both storage (can maybe be worked around) and sufficient RAM (more of an issue...) are missing.
You might be able to put together a basic tvOS that can play content but not games? Question then is does Apple want to "complicate" things that way, with it being somewhat hit or miss which apps are guaranteed to work?
You could imagine for example, in a very Eddie Cue (if not Apple...) move that they release TV.app (or even just TV+) for the monitor, but no access to third party apps and content...
What should the monitor NOT have? For example
- Do you NOT want high sophistication interpolation algorithms handling scaling (eg preserving edges better than basic linear filters)?
- Do you NOT want the monitor to detect surrounding light levels and white point, and tweak the display appropriately to better match those?
- Do you NOT want the monitor to track how much "average" brightness has been sent to each pixel and use that, with aging curves, to ensure that brightness remains, as much as physically possible. constant over the screen even in the presence of constant elements (like menu bar or channel logos)?
I don't know which of these Studio Display implements, but Apple definitely implement all three of these in, eg, iPhones and other built-in displays they control. All are fancy features based on some degree of software, and can either be bug-fixed or have the algorithms improved over time.
The same goes, on the flip side, for, eg, the camera.
Exactly
I don’t want a monitor to do any of those things
I also don’t want it to have a camera
The whole point is ways to repurpose the monitor in five or ten years when it is NOT connected to a computer...
That’s certainly not the point at all from apples perspective. They want you to replace everything you buy from them within four years MINIMUM. That’s their entire hardware business model
(This is why there is a new Mac Pro that’s not even a real product but just a Mac Studio inside a bigger tower)
The useful life of the monitor will always be longer than that of what whatever computer it is connected to
(That’s why imacs are such a scam)
So in 5 or 10 years you’d connect it to your new computer
Let’s say apple did ship a monitor with tvos, they would obsolete it in 5-7 years and stop updating it anyway!
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Then why do you CARE in the slightest about the Studio Display?
You'd clearly be much better served by some display that's a third of the price from Best Buy.