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I wonder if I can use one my older 8GB SD Cards for this? I'm not sure if the SD card flow is supported the same as USB, but it sure would be nice.
 
I wonder if I can use one my older 8GB SD Cards for this? I'm not sure if the SD card flow is supported the same as USB, but it sure would be nice.

Some third party SD card readers use the USB protocol. Apples SDXC card reader (MBP & Mac mini) uses the PCIe protocol. The SD card should be bootable in both hardware/software protocol configurations.

I've also seen third party ExpressCard 34 SDXC card readers, which use also the PCIe protocol, but require additional 38x JMicron drivers (likely not bootable).
 
Some third party SD card readers use the USB protocol. Apples SDXC card reader (MBP & Mac mini) uses the PCIe protocol. The SD card should be bootable in both hardware/software protocol configurations.

I've also seen third party ExpressCard 34 SDXC card readers, which use also the PCIe protocol, but require additional 38x JMicron drivers (likely not bootable).

Nice! Thanks for the info. I'm going to give this a try.
 
Some third party SD card readers use the USB protocol.
Eh, disregarding the inaccuracies in your post, proper machines already boot from USB-devices (regardless if they are sticks or card-readers) just fine. And that for years now.
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Sorry but I'm still not satisfied. I would like to have a full install that does not require an internet conection at all. I hope that the USB stick that they eventually put up for sale will be the full install I'm wishing for.
Thats my opinion, and I think its reasonable.

What stops you from creating it yourself? It will take no longer than 10 minutes.
 
Well it's about time!!!! I don't see why Apple couldn't have just done this from the start. Silly Apple. But, better late than never...
 
What stops you from creating it yourself? It will take no longer than 10 minutes.

In order to create the disk dont I first have to purchase and download Lion? This would require the use of data transfer, and that is what I'm trying to avoid in the first place.
 
Thanks Apple.

But, it would have been nice for this to have been announced prior to all the whining that occurred about the lack of physical media options.

That's not exciting! jk, the engineers are probably busy, or did not think of adding this till everyone started to complain. That's one thing I really like about apple, I do report errors that come up, and they have fixed a grand majority of them. That is why I do not mind paying to update my OS, it is worth the security and stability updates, as well as ongoing updates from myself and other users report.
 
Yes, and hopefully by 10.7.3 Apple will end all the confusion and just release a Lion DVD, which they should have done in the first place.

What? And not having to do this easy workaround:

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I wonder if I can use one my older 8GB SD Cards for this? I'm not sure if the SD card flow is supported the same as USB, but it sure would be nice.
Some third party SD card readers use the USB protocol. Apples SDXC card reader (MBP & Mac mini) uses the PCIe protocol. The SD card should be bootable in both hardware/software protocol configurations.

I've also seen third party ExpressCard 34 SDXC card readers, which use also the PCIe protocol, but require additional 38x JMicron drivers (likely not bootable).

Surely this is so much better than sticking a disk into a slot...
 
Does this actually work for you? Has anyone tested whether they can boot into the newly created recovery partition? Because I can boot into my internal recovery partition perfectly fine, by pressing CMD+R at startup, but if I select the newly created external one, the Apple graphic changes to a stop sign after a while with nothing more happening afterwards... :confused:

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I can't seem to use it. Both my external drives, a media drive and 2Tb backup drive...are both FW800....the Recovery Assistant doesn't see them.:mad:
 
Are people so retarded they couldnt friggin burn the lion installer onto DVD before installing lion?

its like every little thing has to spelled out...i thought mac users were baove the rest, intellectually.
 
This is false!

"We had previously reported that in order to do a clean install of Lion, Snow Leopard would need to be installed first. With this recovery partition creator, there is now an official path to perform a clean install without Snow Leopard. Also, this would seem to make the unofficial Lion boot disk creator unnecessary."

You still HAVE to download the 4GB install file from the internet with this small boot disc making the unofficial boot disc with full install file necessary still.

Um, actually the article is right. With the recovery disk (usb/whatever) you can install Lion without first installing Snow Leopard. The unofficial lion boot disc creator is now unnecessary. There's nothing false about that statement.

The unofficial boot disc is still *useful*, because it means you don't have to download the Lion installer each time you want to install, but it is no longer *necessary*.
 
Recovery image is just replica of that 600 something megabyte recovery partition Lion creates on HDD. When you do recovery from it, it will require your Apple ID and will download full install of Lion.

Thanks, but it has already been covered.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13139722/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13139747/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13139833/

It is safe to assume that Apple only created this utility BECAUSE of all the (justified) whining. It's good - both for them and their customers - that they now corrected their mistakes and will even offer USB sticks with Lion on them for sale later this month.

Thanks, but it has already been covered.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13139670/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13139919/
 
Can someone confirm that this is just a boot recovery and it requires downloading the whole 4 gigs again?

If you have a back-up ( time machine , clone image ) you can recover that with this recovery drive. People should have back-ups. After using Lion for a couple weeks/months at that point there should be no need for a "re install" versus a recovery.

If talking about an USB drive to walk arounnd installing Lion to different SL machines .... this isn't it. That's isn't a 'recovery'.
 
They should have put this in the mac store. If they are going to make you download Lion from there isn't it common sense to put this in there?

It is a support issue. While the "internet recovery" works on the newer macs, the other macs currently shipping with Lion really had no way to recover if the storage media failed.

Yes, there is 'free' software in the Mac App Store but this truely is a utility that should come *WITH* the OS. If 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 doesn't come with this pre-installed that is a major goof. Deployed this in relation to support they can pull it when support feels there aren't many users left who need it. (It will probably get pulled eventually when the .1+ releases of Lion start to dominate in distribution. )
 
Absolutely correct. I get so tired of people making the absurd statements that Apple voids warranties if you do so much as touch anything in their precious device. You only void warranties if you break certain seals (RARE) or you break something while upgrading. Anyone that says otherwise (and especially if they claim to be an "Apple Technician") is flat out full of it. Read Applecare. It is VERY CLEAR.

You're wrong. I remember reading my first late 2007 Macbook user guide and it said that changing out the HD is grounds for voiding the warranty.

I never said that Apple actually WOULD void the warranty, and I did get warranty work done on that laptop, but it was not sanctioned.

Also, if it's user-replaceable, then why in the world is there so much fuss about using non-Apple SSDs in the system? Why the big scandal regarding Apple not properly using SATA3 cables? Apple's official response has been that since drives are not user replaceable they won't "fix" the problem...:rolleyes:
 
Are people so retarded they couldnt friggin burn the lion installer onto DVD before installing lion?

that process isn't supported by Apple. That is the other impact of this utility is to discourage folks to do what Apple doesn't want to people to do. [ If on the other end of a slow pipe or have a bandwidth cap, then you and Apple have a disconnect that this utility doesn't solve. ]
 
Are people so retarded they couldnt friggin burn the lion installer onto DVD before installing lion?

its like every little thing has to spelled out...i thought mac users were baove the rest, intellectually.

Come on... there is something nice about it being a one-step process that has Apple's approval.

Secondly, no, Mac users are now people who like simplicity, since that's what Jobs and Co. are targeting. Haven't you seen their commercials for the past 5 years? It's all about "it just works". Try telling someone who never has used a PC before how to create a bootable install disk... for any OS! It's a difficult process.
 
Also, if it's user-replaceable, then why in the world is there so much fuss about using non-Apple SSDs in the system? Why the big scandal regarding Apple not properly using SATA3 cables? Apple's official response has been that since drives are not user replaceable they won't "fix" the problem...:rolleyes:

Are you referring to the issue of replacing the optical drive with an SSD.

Obviously, this is not considered a sanctioned user serviceable upgrade.

Can you provide a link to describe the issue if you are talking about a different issue?

You're wrong. I remember reading my first late 2007 Macbook user guide and it said that changing out the HD is grounds for voiding the warranty.

I never said that Apple actually WOULD void the warranty, and I did get warranty work done on that laptop, but it was not sanctioned.

The following is a link to the DIY guide for upgrading a MacBook hard drive.

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/MacBook_13inch_HardDrive_DIY.pdf

The following is a link to the user guide for late 2007 MacBook.

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/MacBook_Late2007_UserGuide.pdf

As shown in the following, the warranty is only voided if the user causes damage while attempting the upgrade.
 

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