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You probably have me mixed up with someone else.

I went to the Apple Store for a demo and it couldn’t lock on to my eyes because I have a vision problem.

They ended up having me use a Magic Trackpad to move around.

It wasn’t for me. Sorry.
When someone has vision problems on one eye (as when both eyes are not in sync and aligned correctly making it hard to navigate), there’s a setting to use the better eye for tracking; only one eye.
 
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I've got my theory (repeated on these forums a few times) about what happened...

Tim Cook/Phil Schiller/Apple's open hostility to developers finally came back to bite them.

Historically, people started out as Apple fans, then developed third party software for Apple's platforms, then they applied to Apple and were hired to be devs.

Then Apple decided to make the iOS App Store. They decided to bully good developers, holding them up over arbitrary rules while simultaneously letting a lot of spam and scams onto the store. They decided to charge a brutal protection fee, for which developers received no benefits.

When developers want to release awesome stuff for free, what'd Apple do? They had to charge for that, too, despite Apple already being a major beneficiary. Working for Apple for free simply wasn't (and isn't) good enough - Apple needs to charge for that privilege.

And thus the pipeline died. The App Store is a wasteland, nobody cares to write third party software for Apple's platforms, and nobody wants to work at Apple.

There's been some hints of this disaster for awhile. ie, how difficult Apple has found it to hire people who know about AI.
They charge for free apps? Not in the standard App Store.
Wasteland?! Nobody writes apps?! Nobody wants to work at Apple?! What are you talking about?!
 
When someone has vision problems on one eye (as when both eyes are not in sync and aligned correctly making it hard to navigate), there’s a setting to use the better eye for tracking; only one eye.
Correct, but it still wasn’t great. It recognized my dominant eye maybe 3 out of 5 times. Not a show stopper, but enough to be annoying.

In fairness, the Apple Store employees went out of their way to make me comfortable. They also had a setting where I could do head movements to move around and select items, in addition to using my hands and arms.
 
So 1.2 is no better than 1.1? I wonder if I returned mine a week earlier than I should have now... Still, $1,500-$2,000 is the sweat spot for this device, minus the eye sight. This would be an instant re-purchase for me then.
 
I’m just trying to get it installed. Seems to be just stuck ”preparing to install”…. I. Gonna just turn off and go to bed.
 
I haven't really delved into other topics on the AVP. Those of you that have it, what are your very high level thoughts on it? Is it something that you see being a big deal in the coming years as it gets more affordable or will it remain niche?
 
Correct, but it still wasn’t great. It recognized my dominant eye maybe 3 out of 5 times. Not a show stopper, but enough to be annoying.

In fairness, the Apple Store employees went out of their way to make me comfortable. They also had a setting where I could do head movements to move around and select items, in addition to using my hands and arms.

visionOS really needs multi-user support.
Or at least remember the settings for a few Guest users.
 
I've got my theory (repeated on these forums a few times) about what happened...

Tim Cook/Phil Schiller/Apple's open hostility to developers finally came back to bite them.

Historically, people started out as Apple fans, then developed third party software for Apple's platforms, then they applied to Apple and were hired to be devs.

Then Apple decided to make the iOS App Store. They decided to bully good developers, holding them up over arbitrary rules while simultaneously letting a lot of spam and scams onto the store. They decided to charge a brutal protection fee, for which developers received no benefits.

When developers want to release awesome stuff for free, what'd Apple do? They had to charge for that, too, despite Apple already being a major beneficiary. Working for Apple for free simply wasn't (and isn't) good enough - Apple needs to charge for that privilege.

And thus the pipeline died. The App Store is a wasteland, nobody cares to write third party software for Apple's platforms, and nobody wants to work at Apple.

There's been some hints of this disaster for awhile. ie, how difficult Apple has found it to hire people who know about AI.
Pure non-sense.
For starters, Apple doesn't charge anything to Developers who post free apps on their AppStore.
The $99/year Developer Program fee pays for the tools and resources they constantly provide, plus the App Review Personnel.
"Nobody cares to write third party software for Apple's Platforms?": Speak for yourself. I see new apps and updates to existing apps posting every day.

A disaster? Hahahah.. you must be joking.
 
I haven't really delved into other topics on the AVP. Those of you that have it, what are your very high level thoughts on it? Is it something that you see being a big deal in the coming years as it gets more affordable or will it remain niche?
This question is argued over and over again the AVP forum. 🤣 A lot of people seem to be offended that the product even exits. I think that is due to numerous reasons, including people being priced out, people who assume (wrongly, I'd argue) it forces isolation from the outside world, and people who are set in their ways and think "I don't understand this so it's bad", and maybe even some unconscious anger at getting older.

As one who uses it daily, I absolutely think this is the future of computing. I use it for hours a day, and am more productive because of it. In my case it has definitely already paid for itself (a large part of my job is writing proposals for new business and being able to isolate myself while working from home a feature for me, not a bug - I was looking at renting an office and now I don't have to). Others will tell you I am crazy, I don't use it for "real work" (whatever that is), and the product is a massive failure because it isn't bigger than the iPhone was at the same point in its lifecycle.

It absolutely needs to get lighter and cheaper before there will be mainstream acceptance (and OF COURSE Apple knows it needs to be lighter and cheaper.) I think it was a good idea to release it now, I am glad they did, if for no other reason to get feedback on how people use it in the wild, developers thinking of app ideas and building for it, etc. Personally, I think Apple WANTS it to be a slow roll, niche product at this point - they don't have the capacity to make a ton of them, and by the time the technology gets to a point where it is light and cheap enough for mainstream acceptance they expect more and better content, apps, use cases etc. But others will argue Tim Cook ordered Apple to release it without knowing how it would be used and therefore has lost his marbles and the product is a massive failure. I think Apple's leadership is smarter than the average MacRumors poster (myself included), but maybe others are right and I'm wrong.

I do think it will be a very big deal as it gets lighter and the price goes down. Not as a big as the iPhone - but absolutely has the potential to replace Macs/iPads, and that isn't even taking into account the potential entertainment possibilities. (Just think how much money people pay a month for a cable JUST so they have access to live sports, now imagine in 5-10 years you could have court-side seats at every NBA game, seats behind home plate at every MLB game, front row tickets to the latest Taylor Swift concert/Super Bowl halftime show, etc.).

But lots of people will tell you I am smoking crack and that it's already proven to be a failure and that normal people won't ever put something on their face unless it's like a pair of normal glasses (which I don't think happens in the next decade - if in my lifetime, and I'm in my 30s).

We'll see who is right - I hope I am, but I've definitely been wrong before and will be again.
 
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This question is argued over and over again the AVP forum. 🤣 A lot of people seem to be offended that the product even exits. I think that is due to numerous reasons, including people being priced out, people who assume (wrongly, I'd argue) it forces isolation from the outside world, and people who are set in their ways and think "I don't understand this so it's bad", and maybe even some unconscious anger at getting older.

As one who uses it daily, I absolutely think this is the future of computing. I use it for hours a day, and am more productive because of it. In my case it has definitely already paid for itself (a large part of my job is writing proposals for new business and being able to isolate myself while working from home a feature for me, not a bug - I was looking at renting an office and now I don't have to). Others will tell you I am crazy, I don't use it for "real work" (whatever that is), and the product is a massive failure because it isn't bigger than the iPhone was at the same point in its lifecycle.

It absolutely needs to get lighter and cheaper before there will be mainstream acceptance (and OF COURSE Apple knows it needs to be lighter and cheaper.) I think it was a good idea to release it now, I am glad they did, if for no other reason to get feedback on how people use it in the wild, developers thinking of app ideas and building for it, etc. Personally, I think Apple WANTS it to be a slow roll, niche product at this point - they don't have the capacity to make a ton of them, and by the time the technology gets to a point where it is light and cheap enough for mainstream acceptance they expect more and better content, apps, use cases etc. But others will argue Tim Cook ordered Apple to release it without knowing how it would be used and therefore has lost his marbles and the product is a massive failure. I think Apple's leadership is smarter than the average MacRumors poster (myself included), but maybe others are right and I'm wrong.

I do think it will be a very big deal as it gets lighter and the price goes down. Not as a big as the iPhone - but absolutely has the potential to replace Macs/iPads, and that isn't even taking into account the potential entertainment possibilities. (Just think how much money people pay a month for a cable JUST so they have access to live sports, now imagine in 5-10 years you could have court-side seats at every NBA game, seats behind home plate at every MLB game, front row tickets to the latest Taylor Swift concert/Super Bowl halftime show, etc.).

But lots of people will tell you I am smoking crack and that it's already proven to be a failure and that normal people won't ever put something on their face unless it's like a pair of normal glasses (which I don't think happens in the next decade - if in my lifetime, and I'm in my 30s).

We'll see who is right - I hope I am, but I've definitely been wrong before and will be again.
If I could afford it, I would've bit the bullet and gotten it. I'm really interested to see how the hardware progresses.
 
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I haven't really delved into other topics on the AVP. Those of you that have it, what are your very high level thoughts on it? Is it something that you see being a big deal in the coming years as it gets more affordable or will it remain niche?
I think it’ll remain niche, like the Mac. It’ll be a profitable business for them like the Mac, but the market will primarily consist of “other” devices.
 
I think it’ll remain niche, like the Mac. It’ll be a profitable business for them like the Mac, but the market will primarily consist of “other” devices.
Long term, once it becomes small and light, it will become much more a main device for many . It’s an incredible useful device, just hampered by weight and bulk
 
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