Apple Remains Committed to Launching New Child Safety Features Later This Year

[farewelwilliams]

What that tells me is that you are fine with Big Brother.

It tells me YOU were fine with Big Brother considering ALL OF YOUR DATA is decrypt-able server-side since 2014. It wasn't until social media threw a fit is when you started making a fuss.

This is different than what Apple has done up until this point. This is your devices self reporting to law enforcement.

No. You turn off iCloud and it doesn't self report. You turn on iCloud and it self reports.
This is no different than Apple scanning all photos serverside. You turn off iCloud, server doesn't report. You turn on iCloud, server reports.

The other things you mention require law enforcement to suspect, independently of your phone, that you’re guilty of something and to obtain a warrant.

So is this feature. The only way for law enforcement is able to inspect is for at least 30 photos to be matching against a database of illegal images.
And law enforcement is only able to inspect the matched images and is only able to see visual derivatives of those images.

This is substantially more private than law enforcement being able to look through your ENTIRE iCloud backup and iCloud photo library.

You might say:
"But someone might attack you by feeding you legal porn images that collide with child porn"
No different than someone dropping a gun into your bag before you hit TSA checkpoint or a million other ways of framing someone. Law enforcement will be alerted, they will review, and they will let you go.

Further, there is spyware that can pwn your phone just by viewing a text message.

No there isn't. But if there's something that can take complete control of your phone, there are more effective ways of framing someone for doing something they didn't do.

What if your spouse or significant other is vindictive and wants to leave you and get some revenge? If they know your passcode if you don’t have one what’s stopping them from uploading some images knowing Johnny Law will come knocking assuming your a pedo?

What's to prevent your SO from grabbing your phone now, sending pedo images to the local police department's email pretending to be you?

If you can’t see the forest through the trees that’s on you.

You didn't make any good arguments so I disagree.

 

[Abazigal]

What that tells me is that you are fine with Big Brother. This is different than what Apple has done up until this point. This is your devices self reporting to law enforcement. The other things you mention require law enforcement to suspect, independently of your phone, that you’re guilty of something and to obtain a warrant. This feature doesn’t require that. Further, there is spyware that can pwn your phone just by viewing a text message. It’s for sale on the open market. What’s to stop somebody with that from taking over your phone and deliberately uploading images? Nothing, that’s what. Apple needs to focus on that.

What if your spouse or significant other is vindictive and wants to leave you and get some revenge? If they know your passcode if you don’t have one what’s stopping them from uploading some images knowing Johnny Law will come knocking assuming your a pedo? If you can’t see the forest through the trees that’s on you. Not on those of us who are wisely pointing out this is different and a bridge too far.

What if a tree falls on me tomorrow? It could happen, but I am not going to spend my entire life staying clear of trees and wearing a hard hat everywhere I go.

First off, your phone is not “self reporting to law enforcement”. There are numerous safeguards in place before Apple passes that info along to the relevant authorities. For one, it has to first clear a threshold of images flagged, and even then, Apple has reviewers to check whether these images have been mistaken in flagged or not.

In your next scenario, your vindictive spouse is going to have to first obtain child pornography from somewhere (which is in itself a chargeable offence), and for all the trouble and risk this entails (they still need to get a hold of your phone somehow, load the images onto it and then upload them to iCloud), I imagine there are numerous other ways you could be fixed that don’t require them jumping through such hoops.

It’s easy to come up with any number of extremely contrived scenarios about how such a feature could be abused in theory, but honestly, I simply don’t see any of this happening in real life, for the reasons I stated above. Apple has numerous safeguards in place, and there are easier ways to get you into trouble than going down the child porn route.

Your concern trolling doesn’t mean you are able to see the forest for the trees. It just means that your paranoia and prejudice is preventing you from evaluating this situation in any objective light.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

 

[PBRsg]

if you use iCloud for photos or device backups, they already are going through your photos.

if you don't use iCloud at all, you're in the minority in which Apple has to make the tough choice of catering to the majority of their customers.

In fact, I don't use iCloud for either photos or device backups.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I don't use 'the cloud' period. I'm one of those old folk who prefers everything on his phone.

 

[farewelwilliams]

In fact, I don't use iCloud for either photos or device backups.

then nothing changes for you. CSAM detection remains off.

 

[nickdalzell1]

Except on device it doesn't.

 

[huge_apple_fangirl]

Guess they weren't that committed!

 

[VulchR]

Guess they weren't that committed!

Have Apple formally killed off the moronic and invasive CSAM spying software? If so, then I can change my signature and start buying Apple products again.

 

[chips99]

Have Apple formally killed off the moronic and invasive CSAM spying software? If so, then I can change my signature and start buying Apple products again.

Yes, they announced they have killed all plans to implement CSAM detection.

Apple Abandons Controversial Plans to Detect Known CSAM in iCloud Photos

In addition to making end-to-end encryption available for iCloud Photos, Apple today announced that it has abandoned its controversial plans to...

www.macrumors.com

 

[VulchR]

Yes, they announced they have killed all plans to implement CSAM detection.

Apple Abandons Controversial Plans to Detect Known CSAM in iCloud Photos

In addition to making end-to-end encryption available for iCloud Photos, Apple today announced that it has abandoned its controversial plans to...

www.macrumors.com

Thank you for the information. Not sure how I missed it, but it does sound like they got the message, so I've gone back to my normal signature. And now I can buy that iPad I have been wanting for months.