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Trump is living in cloud cook coo land, US workforce are untrained and it would be like trying to train an ape to do a human skilled task, lets face facts when it comes to this type of manufacturing china has the skills and the will power, western countries take 2-3 just to build a simple bridge when china builds one in a week or two were like cavemen in comparison
 
1950s Doc Brown was shocked to see "Made in Japan" on a component
Well Japan in the 1950s wasn't in the best condition to be doing massive manufacturing and exporting. Kinda like most of early '50s Europe. ;) Not to mention where Japan was in tech in that period verses companies much closer to the U.S. for trade.
 
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So much for the free market...the Trump administration seems to want to control companies and force them to do its bidding. Dictatorships do that kind of thing, not nations that believe in freedom, and it's been an American principle to allow businesses to run themselves, with limitations on their operations (for worker safety or whatever) but not decisions on how they do their thing. It's not always a good thing of course, businesses will violate regulations and do immoral stuff for profits, but that's a far cry from having the government decide how they actually operate.

Apple is getting this because they are a more liberal company...they believe in DEI and people having the freedom to choose, and that's anathema to the people running the US government right now. Apple won't be the last company attacked like this, and odds are the targeting of Apple is only going to get worse unless Apple knuckles under. Which it can't do, iPhones can't realistically be built in the US, not at the current price point and not without years of investment and development.
 
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The politicians making the claims that Apple can easily manufacture elsewhere, or easily move manufacturing, haven't the faintest idea what's involved in manufacturing at that complexity and at that mind boggling scale. Navarro's background is in economics, not manufacturing. Trump sits in a Tesla and excitedly declares while looking at the dash, "it's all computers!"; his statements that Apple can or can't do, well, anything, are not spoken from a place of knowledge. They should carry zero weight or authority.
 


U.S. trade director Peter Navarro took aim at Apple again today, causing the company's stock to briefly drop. In an interview with Fox Business, Navarro said that Apple thinks that it is "too big to tariff," suggesting that Apple might be expecting a tariff exemption that won't be coming.

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Earlier this week, Navarro targeted Apple in a CNBC interview criticizing Tim Cook for failing to move Apple manufacturing from China to the United States. Navarro accused Cook of delaying the manufacturing shift, and called it "the longest-running soap opera in Silicon Valley." Navarro claimed that Cook is not moving fast enough to meet Trump's demands for U.S.-based manufacturing.

Navarro went on to say that it is "inconceivable" that Apple is not able to manufacture the iPhone elsewhere.

Apple is facing steep tariffs in China and other countries as the Trump administration renegotiates trade deals. This week, Trump has been announcing tariffs on various countries. The Philippines, Japan, South Korea, and Malaysia are facing 25 percent tariffs, while tariffs in Indonesia are at 32 percent and tariffs in Thailand are at 36 percent. Vietnam tariffs are 20 percent. The tariffs announced this week are set to go into effect on August 1, a new extended deadline Trump implemented on Monday.

U.S. President Donald Trump has said several times that Apple is capable of manufacturing its iPhones and other devices in the U.S., but industry experts suggest that it's next to impossible. Disregarding the expense of the move and the cost of building up new factories with advanced machinery, it would be unlikely that Apple and its suppliers would be able to find enough people with the necessary skillset to make iPhones. Cook maintains that Apple manufactures its devices in China because China has specialized expertise in advanced manufacturing.

Apple sources components from more than 50 countries around the world, and it gets rare earth minerals from 79 countries. There is no feasible way for Apple to source all of the iPhone's components from a single country. Even if Apple were only assembling the iPhone in the U.S., and it had the skilled employees available, the cost of living and wages in the U.S. would raise the price of the iPhone significantly.

Back in May, Trump threatened Apple with a 25 percent tariff if Apple does not manufacture and build iPhones sold in the United States in the U.S. Trump also complained that he has had a problem with Cook "building all over India," and he went as far as demanding that Apple stop expanding in India.

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Article Link: Apple Remains in Trump's Crosshairs as Trade Advisor Again Criticizes China Reliance
A continuation of yesterday’s news. Same discussion, same players, same arguments.
 
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We can bring back manufacturing to the USA. It won't happen overnight, but we can definitely do it over the next 10 - 15 years.

I built a high-end bicycle recently and was able to source a custom frame made in the USA, high-end bike lights made in the USA, etc. If we just throw up out hands and say, "impossible!" then we won't get anywhere, but if we spend a little bit of extra time and money we can make the USA better for the next generation.
 
The dumbest administration in US history. It's useless to try to explain anything to them, they're either too stupid to understand or don't want to understand. The soap opera is not Cook, it's all those incompetent fools harassing him with the same old nonsense since 2016, and Cook has probably given up trying to reason with them. No American wants a 4,000-dollar iPhone and if MAGAs can't get that, they'll get kicked out of power.
 
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Glad Trump is pushing Apple on this. All the comments here are 'REEEEEE, i cant have my cheap Apple electronics manufactured in the lowest labor cost country possible'. 😂

Time to pony up and start paying $1600 for an iPhone, and only buying one every 3 to 5 years, if thats what you can afford.

Or buy something else that you can afford.
 
Glad Trump is pushing Apple on this. All the comments here are 'REEEEEE, i cant have my cheap Apple electronics manufactured in the lowest labor cost country possible'. 😂

Time to pony up and start paying $1600 for an iPhone, and only buying one every 3 to 5 years, if thats what you can afford.

Or buy something else that you can afford.
Or, wait for it, live in reality where this isnt possible in any form of reasonable timeframe
 
It's so weird that many conservatives want a business man to run the country and then vote for a guy with literally no business experience other than inflating real estate values. And who has declared bankruptcy 6 times...and is making the deficit bigger....so much winning...
I strongly suspect a lot of conservatives knew Trump was an absolute moron, but they thought he would cut their taxes and implement laws to increase the value of their assets, so voted for him anyway. Now he's making moves that are seriously threatening the global economy and safety, I hope a lot of those voters are starting to realise that the short term boost in share prices may well be replaced by high inflation and job losses by the end of the year.
 
I wonder who taught them the skills required for that manufacturing. 🤔

The folks who realized their standard of living would improve if they moved from assembly lines to design and IP creation while helping the Chinese farmers standard of living improve by moving from ploughing fields to building iPhones.
 
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I strongly suspect a lot of conservatives knew Trump was an absolute moron, but they thought he would cut their taxes and implement laws to increase the value of their assets, so voted for him anyway. Now he's making moves that are seriously threatening the global economy and safety, I hope a lot of those voters are starting to realise that the short term boost in share prices may well be replaced by high inflation and job losses by the end of the year.

There’s also a sizable chunk of them that are pretty racist and not at all bothered with the stuff happening on that side of things. Plenty of folks are getting basically exactly what they voted for, and then some.
 
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Glad Trump is pushing Apple on this. All the comments here are 'REEEEEE, i cant have my cheap Apple electronics manufactured in the lowest labor cost country possible'. 😂

Time to pony up and start paying $1600 for an iPhone, and only buying one every 3 to 5 years, if thats what you can afford.

Or buy something else that you can afford.
Will you pay for moving exceptionally large factories across an ocean? That's easy, right? That's just the first issue.

Trump lives in fantasy land, along with his worshippers.
 
Glad Trump is pushing Apple on this. All the comments here are 'REEEEEE, i cant have my cheap Apple electronics manufactured in the lowest labor cost country possible'. 😂

Time to pony up and start paying $1600 for an iPhone, and only buying one every 3 to 5 years, if thats what you can afford.

Or buy something else that you can afford.
Try US$3000 for a domestically manufactured base model iPhone, from what I've read.
 
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